I really feel in my soul that something seriously nefarious is going on with these damn things. There are multiple conspiracy theories online about them including being part of Bill Gates 2030 agenda and mass depopulation, or a part of the mass surveillance police state system. Who knows at this point, but it’s very odd how gung ho they are in getting them up. They claim they are for ai and cloud servers yet we have a disproportionate amount of them compared to countries like China.
We have about 3500-5000 of them here in the U.S. with a population of about 340 million, while China has about 500 of them with a population of about 1.4 billion.
Here in West Virginia, they preemptively took away local authority and input with house bill 2014. One is being rammed down our throats practically in my backyard.
It’s seems to be the latest atrocity globalists are backing us up to the wall with.
I hear nothing but crickets from people supposedly on our side. Are they part of the beast system coming our way?
So giant buildings full of computer servers sucking down all the local water for cooling and burning through everyone's electric and raising bills by 20% aren't enough evil?
Not a fan of this movement. But I do know, the desire for AI and cloud storage (not by me, I'm old school and prefer to write my own sentences) is consumer driven. I also know that the cooling systems for these plants are a closed loop system. So they aren't taking water to cool and then just dumping it. That's a myth driven by tree huggers
Cite your source, because if your closed-loop water system was a thing, then why are they consuming massive amounts of water above and beyond what they are permitted for?
I work for a utility company and one facet of that is load expansion. Enter Data Centers. Asking the question internally that is what I was told. Now, that may be in reference to new centers and doesn't reference centers that are already in existence. I did not go that deep. I for one am not sold on Data Centers, but I think they are coming regardless
That's actually incorrect about the closed loop system. I work with town planning in my county and city and there are 7 data centers being put in to the south of us. We saw the specs and they are not "closed" at all. They hook up to the municipal systems and then dump into the sewers after circulating the water a single time through the center. They estimated a loss of 10% and even filed contamination ground water notices. We looked into it and every single one in the state was worse than that one, and none of them were closed systems.
Exactly. They ALREADY have enough data centers to do all the AI stuff we're using. Why the Hell do they need THOUSANDS MORE data centers? So the few college students still writing their own papers and doing their own research won't have to anymore? So Hollywood can fire all those expensive actors and behind-the-scenes employees?
Apparently, the idea is to construct massive neural networks to perform global-sized problems. But each "neuron" is tantamount to a separate mainframe computer, in order to simulate all the inputs and feedbacks and networking. And they need many thousands of them.
This is like removing a mountain with an army of spade-workers with pails. So, the facilities are gigantic in order to clobber the problem with brute force---before someone else gets there first. Thus, the crash-program atmosphere.
Here are some links to descriptions of the big center being built in Abilene, Texas.
On the other hand, at least the Crusoe facility's closed-water and energy-sourcing is a step in the right direction. If we're going to have all these monsters all over the landscape, they should at least be built in such a way as to not totally destroy the water tables and completely drain the grid.
The more I think about this, the more I am convinced that consumption of environmental water is not necessary. Most computer centers attain their system cooling by extreme air conditioning. Works just fine. People have built hangar-sized buildings for the storage of structural composite pre-preg which is maintained at icy temperatures by refrigeration (I've been in one). Food processing and canning plants maintain huge volumes of frozen goods using ammonia refrigerant.
I can understand that some electronic configurations might have high heat production per square inch, for which a water flow would be a desirable coolant (high specific heat, high density), but the water can be a closed loop, with heat exchangers passing it off to the ambient atmosphere.
There must be more to this story.
(I chuckle at their hat tip to "renewable" energy. I recall a recent winter when all the renewables were not showing up for duty, and poor Texas was being pinched by the cold.)
I really feel in my soul that something seriously nefarious is going on with these damn things. There are multiple conspiracy theories online about them including being part of Bill Gates 2030 agenda and mass depopulation, or a part of the mass surveillance police state system. Who knows at this point, but it’s very odd how gung ho they are in getting them up. They claim they are for ai and cloud servers yet we have a disproportionate amount of them compared to countries like China. We have about 3500-5000 of them here in the U.S. with a population of about 340 million, while China has about 500 of them with a population of about 1.4 billion. Here in West Virginia, they preemptively took away local authority and input with house bill 2014. One is being rammed down our throats practically in my backyard. It’s seems to be the latest atrocity globalists are backing us up to the wall with. I hear nothing but crickets from people supposedly on our side. Are they part of the beast system coming our way?
Agreed.
So giant buildings full of computer servers sucking down all the local water for cooling and burning through everyone's electric and raising bills by 20% aren't enough evil?
Not a fan of this movement. But I do know, the desire for AI and cloud storage (not by me, I'm old school and prefer to write my own sentences) is consumer driven. I also know that the cooling systems for these plants are a closed loop system. So they aren't taking water to cool and then just dumping it. That's a myth driven by tree huggers
Cite your source, because if your closed-loop water system was a thing, then why are they consuming massive amounts of water above and beyond what they are permitted for?
I work for a utility company and one facet of that is load expansion. Enter Data Centers. Asking the question internally that is what I was told. Now, that may be in reference to new centers and doesn't reference centers that are already in existence. I did not go that deep. I for one am not sold on Data Centers, but I think they are coming regardless
Are they? Evidence?
That's actually incorrect about the closed loop system. I work with town planning in my county and city and there are 7 data centers being put in to the south of us. We saw the specs and they are not "closed" at all. They hook up to the municipal systems and then dump into the sewers after circulating the water a single time through the center. They estimated a loss of 10% and even filed contamination ground water notices. We looked into it and every single one in the state was worse than that one, and none of them were closed systems.
Then I have been misinformed and stand corrected. Thank you
There is most definitely a ‘hidden hand’ at play here, if you know what I mean.
It wouldn’t be getting done this way w/o……
Exactly. They ALREADY have enough data centers to do all the AI stuff we're using. Why the Hell do they need THOUSANDS MORE data centers? So the few college students still writing their own papers and doing their own research won't have to anymore? So Hollywood can fire all those expensive actors and behind-the-scenes employees?
What's the actual purpose?
Apparently, the idea is to construct massive neural networks to perform global-sized problems. But each "neuron" is tantamount to a separate mainframe computer, in order to simulate all the inputs and feedbacks and networking. And they need many thousands of them.
This is like removing a mountain with an army of spade-workers with pails. So, the facilities are gigantic in order to clobber the problem with brute force---before someone else gets there first. Thus, the crash-program atmosphere.
Here are some links to descriptions of the big center being built in Abilene, Texas.
https://constructionreviewonline.com/crusoe-11-6b-to-expand-ai-data-center-campus-in-abilene-texas/
https://www.crusoe.ai/resources/blog/an-inside-look-at-the-abilene-ai-data-center
Yikes.
On the other hand, at least the Crusoe facility's closed-water and energy-sourcing is a step in the right direction. If we're going to have all these monsters all over the landscape, they should at least be built in such a way as to not totally destroy the water tables and completely drain the grid.
The more I think about this, the more I am convinced that consumption of environmental water is not necessary. Most computer centers attain their system cooling by extreme air conditioning. Works just fine. People have built hangar-sized buildings for the storage of structural composite pre-preg which is maintained at icy temperatures by refrigeration (I've been in one). Food processing and canning plants maintain huge volumes of frozen goods using ammonia refrigerant.
I can understand that some electronic configurations might have high heat production per square inch, for which a water flow would be a desirable coolant (high specific heat, high density), but the water can be a closed loop, with heat exchangers passing it off to the ambient atmosphere.
There must be more to this story.
(I chuckle at their hat tip to "renewable" energy. I recall a recent winter when all the renewables were not showing up for duty, and poor Texas was being pinched by the cold.)
“Great minds”.
I just posted on this same thing last night.
https://greatawakening.win/p/1ASsUZTz9C/x/c/4ebn3htlwxd