The laws regarding vandalism needs to be updated -- the MINIMUM punishment for intentional vandalism should be equal to or greater than the cost of the repair (plus punitive damages) -- and the funds should not be able to come from third-parties, only what they themselves have earned (or will earn, in prison). In this case, it will be millions. These people should never see the light of day.
Second, if ANYTHING can show that TDS is completely irrational, it's this act. There is nothing to 'boycott' or 'protest' here. It is pure hatred of Trump (and America) on display.
“The 350 foot gash, made by a very sharp knife or razors, is actually numerous slashes over a very long 350 foot length. It was purposefully and criminally done, and somebody had to work very hard, probably in the dark of night, to create such a condition."
"Likewise, the small area at the bottom of the Pool was cut and powerfully lifted off the surface leaving very jagged, uneven edges. The large areas of grass are being replaced."
"In any event, even prior to fixing those areas, the Reflecting Pool is as beautiful as it can be. We will drain some of the water, either immediately before or after the Fourth of July, to do the permanent repair." 🇺🇸
Because it's most likely not. I'm 99% sure that it's just typical shitty government contractor work.
All the people who have been arrested in regards to the "vandalism" are claiming all they did was reach into the water to feel the lining that was already coming up or pulling chunks of liner off the surface of the water or nearby grass.
Does no one else remember President Trump boasting that the liner was really great and tough and couldn't be cut with a knife even if someone tried?
But now we're saying people are absolutely destroying this $14 million dollar restoration that was supposedly so durable it would last 100 years, with an $8 box cutter?
Trump says a lot of crazy stuff that doesn't make sense. But then looking back, you can see he set a trap to expose yet someone else. Seen it over and over again.
If this was a trap to expose people, who exactly were they exposing?
So far, the publicly identified people don’t look like some major sabotage network. One appears to be a 67yo former Olympian who says he touched liner that was already peeling, and another was apparently arrested for disorderly/obscene language near police, not for damaging the pool.
And if the goal was to expose vandals by letting them reveal themselves, why all the barriers, gates, extra security, National Guard presence, and restricted access around the pool? Those measures are designed to keep people away from the liner, not lure them into touching it.
A trap lets the target act while you collect evidence. From all accounts I've been able to find, there is no credible evidence of these people deliberately damaging the liner. Barriers and guards prevent the act from happening in the first place.
So what is the theory here?
Were they trying to stop vandalism, or were they trying to bait vandals? Those are opposite objectives.
And even if we assume it was bait, what was gained? Was exposing a handful of random people supposedly worth damaging or risking a $14 million renovation? That only makes sense if the people exposed were significant and the evidence proves a larger operation. If all we have is random arrests, citations, and people touching liner that may have already been coming up, then “it was a trap” looks more like an after the facr explanation than an actual plan.
Lots of symbolism. Step back, look for connections, look for Qincidences, what matches up. What happened just before and soon after.
Have you read the Q Drops? Have you viewed or read anything about the Q Proofs?
I don't know exactly what Trump is doing in this case. But clues to me are Watch the Water, TDS, destruction of National Treasures, Draining/Cleaning the Swamp, funding of protests and destruction, reflection vs. destruction, restore vs. destroy, MSM narratives, fixing what was destroyed, the nation's 250th birthday, and much more I'm missing. But I'm sure more will come out of this along with all the other happenings.
There are a thousand other things Trump has done that I didn't understand but soon later became more clear. He's gained my trust, let the man cook.
This isn't the ol' political back and forth between parties, them, us, Right, Left, Dems, Rinos. I've been researching conspiracy theories since highschool in the 80's where you could only get info on cassettes thru the mail or find books at gun shows. This is different. This is the most exciting time I've ever seen. Cue the Ron Paul gif, "It's Happening!" It's Biblical. It's Dark to Light. It's a Great Awakening.
You are getting all your facts from media. We don't know what facts, evidence has been gathered, what traps have been set. I'm stepping back to wait to see what comes out. The 24 or 48-hour rule for one. But sometimes it takes a long time to find out what was happening in the background.
For instance, yesterday [edit: Monday] in coffee&covid, Jeff Childers matched what happened in Feb when Starmer was in the White House about Ukraine to news about his resignation. That very same day in Feb, Pam Bondi was handing out Epstein Phase 1 binders to influencers. We were left scratching our heads to what in the world was going on with those stupid binders.
From the US side, everything we could see said Bondi’s binder stunt was a net negative domestically: media mocked the binders as “binders full of nothing,” and senior Trump aides later said she “completely whiffed” on the Epstein files and blindsided the White House. But Trump’s team still achieved something valuable— leverage over a rising British leader who had just installed an Epstein‑linked fixer as his ambassador, (then) spoke for the whole EU coalition, and who also happened to know there was probably some stuff in the Epstein file that could destroy his Prime Ministership.
I meant by "set a trap" and "expose" is not necessarily looking at only the evidence that is known today. The symbolism are the clues that this is not what is on the surface level, that something more powerful is happening behind the scenes that we aren't privy too.
I mentioned the Q Proofs because many things are later disclosed that proves that there were things happening in the background, that the event had a deeper purpose than what was on the surface.
The problem is that "something might be happening behind the scenes" is not evidence that something is happening behind the scenes.
Every failed prediction, bad rollout, or unexplained event can be rescued by saying there was a secret purpose that hasn't been revealed yet. But if a theory can explain every possible outcome, it stops being testable.
The Bondi binder example is a good illustration. Publicly, the rollout was criticized by supporters and opponents alike, and no major revelations emerged. Claiming it was actually a trap or leverage operation requires evidence of that operation, not just the possibility that one existed.
You say symbolism and clues suggest a deeper meaning. Fair enough. But symbolism is interpretation. Evidence is documents, testimony, communications, arrests, financial records, court filings, or other verifiable facts.
A useful question is: what specific future evidence would confirm this theory, and what specific future evidence would cause you to reject it? If there is no possible outcome that would falsify the theory, then it's functioning more as a belief system than an evidence based conclusion.
Occam's Razor is helpful here. It's much more likely that the problems result from typical shoddy government contract work. The work was hastily finished to be done by President Trump's birthday, they themselves admitted the algae problem was due to reusing plumbing that was contaminated with algae that reintroduced it into the pool. They used industrial stregth hydrogen peroxide to kill the algae which is known to strip paints and coatings.
There is no need for complex, murky, symbolic conspiracies here that make zero logical sense. It's a simple matter of A+B=C.
If this had happened under Obama or Biden, people would have been complaining about the typical incompetent government contractors and employees in DC, just like they do any other time.
But because President Trump's name is attached to this, suddenly government contractors are infallible. It's just silly. Yes, it's embarassing to President Trump, but it's not his fault. He wasn't out there everyday overseeing the operation. He didn't vette and hand pick everyone working on it.
It's things like this that seriously undermines our credibility with normies and has people calling us cultists, which makes it harder for us to redpill them. We don't need to go to these huge, dramatic scenarios to figure out what's going on.
Two things...
The laws regarding vandalism needs to be updated -- the MINIMUM punishment for intentional vandalism should be equal to or greater than the cost of the repair (plus punitive damages) -- and the funds should not be able to come from third-parties, only what they themselves have earned (or will earn, in prison). In this case, it will be millions. These people should never see the light of day.
Second, if ANYTHING can show that TDS is completely irrational, it's this act. There is nothing to 'boycott' or 'protest' here. It is pure hatred of Trump (and America) on display.
10 years, 10 years, 10 years. Send a message and take those people off the board. I hear there’s an Antifa connection too.
Likely used a boxcutter knife.
I thought President Trump said it was made of a super tough material that couldn't be cut with a knife.
“The 350 foot gash, made by a very sharp knife or razors, is actually numerous slashes over a very long 350 foot length. It was purposefully and criminally done, and somebody had to work very hard, probably in the dark of night, to create such a condition."
"Likewise, the small area at the bottom of the Pool was cut and powerfully lifted off the surface leaving very jagged, uneven edges. The large areas of grass are being replaced."
"In any event, even prior to fixing those areas, the Reflecting Pool is as beautiful as it can be. We will drain some of the water, either immediately before or after the Fourth of July, to do the permanent repair." 🇺🇸
Yeah, except President Trump bragged on camera that the material lining the pool was so super tough it couldn't be cut with a knife.
Yet Faux News says it wasn't vandalism.
Because it's most likely not. I'm 99% sure that it's just typical shitty government contractor work.
All the people who have been arrested in regards to the "vandalism" are claiming all they did was reach into the water to feel the lining that was already coming up or pulling chunks of liner off the surface of the water or nearby grass.
Does no one else remember President Trump boasting that the liner was really great and tough and couldn't be cut with a knife even if someone tried?
But now we're saying people are absolutely destroying this $14 million dollar restoration that was supposedly so durable it would last 100 years, with an $8 box cutter?
Makes zero sense.
What you are noticing is what 99% of people here will disagree with you on even if you are right. Let that sink in.
Ok Troll.
He never said any if that.
Trump says a lot of crazy stuff that doesn't make sense. But then looking back, you can see he set a trap to expose yet someone else. Seen it over and over again.
That still doesn’t answer the mechanism.
If this was a trap to expose people, who exactly were they exposing?
So far, the publicly identified people don’t look like some major sabotage network. One appears to be a 67yo former Olympian who says he touched liner that was already peeling, and another was apparently arrested for disorderly/obscene language near police, not for damaging the pool.
And if the goal was to expose vandals by letting them reveal themselves, why all the barriers, gates, extra security, National Guard presence, and restricted access around the pool? Those measures are designed to keep people away from the liner, not lure them into touching it.
A trap lets the target act while you collect evidence. From all accounts I've been able to find, there is no credible evidence of these people deliberately damaging the liner. Barriers and guards prevent the act from happening in the first place.
So what is the theory here?
Were they trying to stop vandalism, or were they trying to bait vandals? Those are opposite objectives.
And even if we assume it was bait, what was gained? Was exposing a handful of random people supposedly worth damaging or risking a $14 million renovation? That only makes sense if the people exposed were significant and the evidence proves a larger operation. If all we have is random arrests, citations, and people touching liner that may have already been coming up, then “it was a trap” looks more like an after the facr explanation than an actual plan.
Lots of symbolism. Step back, look for connections, look for Qincidences, what matches up. What happened just before and soon after.
Have you read the Q Drops? Have you viewed or read anything about the Q Proofs?
I don't know exactly what Trump is doing in this case. But clues to me are Watch the Water, TDS, destruction of National Treasures, Draining/Cleaning the Swamp, funding of protests and destruction, reflection vs. destruction, restore vs. destroy, MSM narratives, fixing what was destroyed, the nation's 250th birthday, and much more I'm missing. But I'm sure more will come out of this along with all the other happenings.
There are a thousand other things Trump has done that I didn't understand but soon later became more clear. He's gained my trust, let the man cook.
This isn't the ol' political back and forth between parties, them, us, Right, Left, Dems, Rinos. I've been researching conspiracy theories since highschool in the 80's where you could only get info on cassettes thru the mail or find books at gun shows. This is different. This is the most exciting time I've ever seen. Cue the Ron Paul gif, "It's Happening!" It's Biblical. It's Dark to Light. It's a Great Awakening.
I think we're talking about two different things.
You're pointing to symbolism and themes. I'm asking about the mechanism.
Who was exposed?
What evidence was obtained?
What was accomplished that couldn't have been accomplished with cameras and normal security?
And if this was a trap to catch vandals, why all the barriers, gates, extra security, and National Guard presence to keep people away from the area?
I'm not asking about symbolism. Symbolic connections can be found between almost anything after the fact if we're looking hard enough.
I'm asking what concrete result made risking a $14 million renovation worth it.
You are getting all your facts from media. We don't know what facts, evidence has been gathered, what traps have been set. I'm stepping back to wait to see what comes out. The 24 or 48-hour rule for one. But sometimes it takes a long time to find out what was happening in the background.
For instance, yesterday [edit: Monday] in coffee&covid, Jeff Childers matched what happened in Feb when Starmer was in the White House about Ukraine to news about his resignation. That very same day in Feb, Pam Bondi was handing out Epstein Phase 1 binders to influencers. We were left scratching our heads to what in the world was going on with those stupid binders.
Coffee and Covid June 22
I meant by "set a trap" and "expose" is not necessarily looking at only the evidence that is known today. The symbolism are the clues that this is not what is on the surface level, that something more powerful is happening behind the scenes that we aren't privy too.
I mentioned the Q Proofs because many things are later disclosed that proves that there were things happening in the background, that the event had a deeper purpose than what was on the surface.
The problem is that "something might be happening behind the scenes" is not evidence that something is happening behind the scenes.
Every failed prediction, bad rollout, or unexplained event can be rescued by saying there was a secret purpose that hasn't been revealed yet. But if a theory can explain every possible outcome, it stops being testable.
The Bondi binder example is a good illustration. Publicly, the rollout was criticized by supporters and opponents alike, and no major revelations emerged. Claiming it was actually a trap or leverage operation requires evidence of that operation, not just the possibility that one existed.
You say symbolism and clues suggest a deeper meaning. Fair enough. But symbolism is interpretation. Evidence is documents, testimony, communications, arrests, financial records, court filings, or other verifiable facts.
A useful question is: what specific future evidence would confirm this theory, and what specific future evidence would cause you to reject it? If there is no possible outcome that would falsify the theory, then it's functioning more as a belief system than an evidence based conclusion.
Occam's Razor is helpful here. It's much more likely that the problems result from typical shoddy government contract work. The work was hastily finished to be done by President Trump's birthday, they themselves admitted the algae problem was due to reusing plumbing that was contaminated with algae that reintroduced it into the pool. They used industrial stregth hydrogen peroxide to kill the algae which is known to strip paints and coatings.
There is no need for complex, murky, symbolic conspiracies here that make zero logical sense. It's a simple matter of A+B=C.
If this had happened under Obama or Biden, people would have been complaining about the typical incompetent government contractors and employees in DC, just like they do any other time.
But because President Trump's name is attached to this, suddenly government contractors are infallible. It's just silly. Yes, it's embarassing to President Trump, but it's not his fault. He wasn't out there everyday overseeing the operation. He didn't vette and hand pick everyone working on it.
It's things like this that seriously undermines our credibility with normies and has people calling us cultists, which makes it harder for us to redpill them. We don't need to go to these huge, dramatic scenarios to figure out what's going on.
How about 25 years in prison, or more, when they are found to be guilty?