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5757 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can't possibly read Gen 12:3 the way that you do. It's part of a larger statement, not an isolated sentence for one thing. He promises to make Abraham a great nation. That includes his offspring. How can God possibly make his name great and make him a blessing apart from his descendants? God also says that in him ALL FAMILIES will be blessed. Surely, God hasn't decided to exclude Israel, his own treasured people. In order for Messiah to come forth, there first had to be the people and nation of Israel who He delivered time and time again. He hasn't abandoned or replaced Israel. They are blinded for a time until the full number of the gentles has come in. Paul specifically says that he does not want us to be ignorant least we be wise in our own opinion. (Rom 11:25) In Romans 12:16, he instructs that we not be wise in it own opinion. I believe that a careful reading of Romans 11 supports this view.

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5757 1 point ago +1 / -0

I often wonder if things appear one way but are really another. Why would Israel carry out the strike against Haniyeh's family when they have a hostage deal on the table and a lot of internal pressure from the families. I can imagine a few different scenarios, but obviously can't really know. Why would they carry out a strike against the Iranian consulate at this time? Or at all? One thought that occurs to me is to wonder if they are sometimes coerced to make moves they otherwise wouldn't to serve agendas that extend beyond their own. They would have surely sought to count the cost and war game scenarios for potential consequences militarily and politically. Something seems off to me about all of this, but then I'm not the most politically knowledgeable person.

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5757 3 points ago +3 / -0

Although, I do agree generally with the scriptural points that you've made, I don't believe that Romans supports replacement theology. I quoted Scripture to support some of the reasons why I believe that. God said through the prophets that they would be blinded, but He did not say that He would replace them. A more in depth reading of Paul's teaching on the subject points away from that. As for Israel murdering innocent people, I am inferring that you are referring to what is taking place in Gaza. Are you saying like some that October 7th wasn't a brutal massacre of their own people by Hamas? I'm not looking to put words in your mouth. Please help me understand why you're making this assertion. I've followed this quite a bit from various perspectives. That may not prevent me from having a bias, but it would take evidence for me to change my mind.

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5757 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gotcha. You appeared to be questioning the figures given which is what I had in mind when I posted.

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5757 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not sure why you're assuming my race, lol!😂

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5757 4 points ago +4 / -0

Zech 12:10-And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. Jews who've come to Christ have taken about experiencing a prolonged weeping. I believe this scripture is unfulfilled and points to a large scale turning.

Rom 11:25-26- I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. Rom 1:16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. Rom 2:9-10- There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. Greek word for first is proton. "Proton’ can also mean first as in particularly, especially, or in prominence… We would argue that it is this sense in which Paul writes about the Jew being first. The gospel is particularly and especially for the Jew – and also for the Gentile."* Rom 11 has much to say on this, among other things, warning us to "not be haughty, but fear." V 28-29 say: As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the forefathers, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.

There will be Jews who are a part of this synagogue of Satan. There will be gentiles who are equally evil. They are not more prone to sin, blindness, deafness, or evil than we are. Let's stay humble before the Lord remembering our own weakness and fallibility and pray for the peace of Jerusalem. *For your consideration: https://www.oneforisrael.org/bible-based-teaching-from-israel/to-the-jew-first-what-does-it-mean-and-why-does-it-matter/

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5757 3 points ago +4 / -1

That sounds like an excessive estimate to me. We need sauce on this rather than jumping to conclusions.

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5757 3 points ago +6 / -3

Those who bless Israel will be blessed. Those who course Israel will be cursed. You can choose to believe it or disbelieve it. If it's true, disbelieving it won't change it. Sidenote: the fact that corruption exists in Israeli government doesn't make all Jews or Israeli govt officials corrupt anymore than corruption in American govt makes all Americans or American govt officials corrupt. The good guys there want the bad guys out just as much as we do here. Keeping Iran at bay is good for America. We are their next intended target. This administration has already empowered Iran immensely. I'm not a fan of being the world's police force let alone the cost it incurs, but sometimes, none of the potential options is great. I also do happen to believe in what I originally stated. Spiritual principles do ultimately supercede human reasoning and logic. Praying for Israel costs us no money and will accomplish heaps more than remaining in a "talk about it" mode. Maybe it will even save us a little money and save some lives in the long run. You never know. 🙂 it's what you would want someone to do for you.

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5757 10 points ago +10 / -0

Neil Johnson of Lumberjack Logic goes over a report by Lara Logan who says that her Intel sources are telling her that this was a planned a attack. She goes into work a lot of specific detail in her report. https://www.youtube.com/live/MIyJgN0NYhs?si=fxtjWWD1v5imnHlX

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5757 6 points ago +6 / -0

A local newscaster who was on scene said that a tractor trailer and box truck were seen going down with the bridge. I wonder if there were any hazmat materials to be concerned about

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5757 4 points ago +4 / -0

According to local Baltimore News, there was a Mayday call that resulted in traffic being turned away.

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5757 2 points ago +3 / -1

The enemy will not go down without giving it all they have. They have nothing to lose and they are likely getting gradually more desperate. As a Christian, I believe that we will also see a move of God. It's darkest before the dawn. Is 58:8-Your light shall break forth at the morning. Your health shall spring forth speedily. Mal 4:2- The sun of righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings. Things could really bumpy right before the break through. (Perez) This is a season to prepare spiritually, mentally, emotionally. If you are a Christian or a Jew, this is the time to make time for God by spending time with Him in His word, in prayer, thanksgiving, and praise. Having your lamp full will only be a benefit. Is 26:3- He will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on Him because he trusts in Him.

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5757 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would add too my latest comment that, in my view, it is impossible to consider Israel without factoring in God. It is, to my knowledge, the only nation that has ever been wiped off the face of the earth and been restored as promised by God in the Scriptures. Gaza and Judea-Samaria, ie West Bank, are all part of the land that was originally promised to Israel. God will ultimately restore all that He promised to Israel to them. This may be that time in history when this will occur. If that is the case, then it would make sense that Israel's strongest ally would have Israel's back at that time. It is not a matter of if this will happen but when. If memory serves me correctly, Julie Green prophesied concerning this.

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5757 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Jonathan Cahn video gives credence to the Scriptures. Reading The Josiah Manifesto might possibly shred some light on the answer to your question. I have only read the very first of his books, The Harbinger, which is a fascinating read and shreds a lot of light oh American history and how it converges with the Scriptures. If you believe in or are at least of a mind to consider that the modern day prophetic is valid, it may give you some additional pieces to factor into your pondering of all of this. If it is true, then a few things come to mind. First, one must look beyond Netanyahu for the corruption that he has been the target of which would make sense of he is indeed a good guy. Second, there is an intimate tie between the deeply corrupt in their government and the deeply corrupt in ours. It will require DJT to assist in addressing that corruption. The current administration, at its heart, is no friend of Israel. (Think Obama as well as Biden's actions prior to Oct 7 and also comments that are beginning to come out of Washington.) The primary reason that they have had Israel's back to the degree that they have is the truly masterful job that the Israeli government did with their messaging right out of the starting gate. My thought is that it will take the return of Trump for both countries to close in on and address this linked corruption. It makes me think of Yahyah Sinwar and his cohorts and human shields/hostages moving from tunnel to tunnel to stay ahead of the IDF. The corrupt will not go down without a fight and it's going to require a squeezing from both sides to not only uproot them, but to circumvent their ability to hold the good guys "hostage." I'll go out on a limb and say that I believe that the Lord told me that, "As goes Gaza, so goes the world."this is one to pray into and keep an eye on if you believe in that sort of thing. These are, obviously, my thoughts which you may agree or disagree with.

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5757 1 point ago +1 / -0

For those who are interested, Jonathan Cahn, on October 6th preached a message at his Messianic Jewish congregation in New Jersey based off of material that he had written in a previously published book called The Josiah Manifesto. In this book, he explains how various events in Israel history has to happen when they did based off of the Scriptures. He committed that message with the following assertions: Israel would be unexpectedly attacked in October of 2023 on the Sabbath and it would also be a double Sabbath. All of these things took place just as he said on October 7th. Bear in mind that his book was written week in advance of this occurring. https://youtu.be/x8wu85uA9bY?si=5vcqcFQr6CBHmGGX

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5757 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here's what I know from the prophetic perspective. Israel is the birthright of the Jewish people. God had ordained that. Nothing changes that. There is deep corruption in their government just like there is on our own and just about every other government around the world. This does not make all Jewish people evil or, for that matter, all members of the Israeli government evil. That would be like saying all Americans are evil cuz the deep state. Prophets have said: 1)someone within the Israeli government betrayed the nation with Oct 7 and that person would be exposed; 2) Netanyahu's rise to position as prime Minister was prophesied with very specific details provided as was his eventually return to that position;3) two of those details were fulfilled the first time (2014, I think) and the third, an invasion occured nearly a decade later on Oct 7; 4) Netanyahu was coerced into doing things in order to protect the lives of his family; 5) God will vindicate him; 6) an underground motherboard would be discovered in Israel that is the nerve center for the corrupt state in Israel and this would expose its ties to the corruption in our own government; 7) DJT will return to the Oval Office and when he does, he will assist Israel (if memory serves me correctly, God is going to restore land to Israel that rightfully belongs to them and DJT will assist them with that). Maybe this has something to do with saving Israel for last. Julie Green-1,4,5,7; Dr Patricia Green (not related)-2,3; Amanda Grace-6. Julie has a website where you can do a word search and find prophecies related to Israel. On her rumble page, GreatWhiteLion21 posts prophesied fulfilled (some partially) in the comments section. Dr Patricia Green is on YouTube. I think I saw the clip of Amanda Grace on YouTube as well.

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5757 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just sayin'. It would make for some juicy sauce for sure. I mean, every (few) day(s) brings more revelations. This is so full of unforced errors that I can't see how at least one of our conspiracy clan could possibly resist this temptation....🤪

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5757 3 points ago +3 / -0

Two questions: Who else was in the room? Has anyone done any research on Nathan Wade? At first, he seemed like a guy who became romantically involved and one thing led to the next. He's starting to sound a lot more intentional and culpable at this point.

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5757 1 point ago +1 / -0

No idea if this would be of interest to you. MEET Ministries has had success in assisting people with a variety a health concerns including hereditary ones by alternative means. You can go to their website and view some of the testimonials to get a feel for what they do. I'm pretty sure that they are all supervised by MDs as well as other licensed professionals. They have a 10 day and an 18 day retreat. A friend of mine had trained under them and as a result of my relationship with her, I have a lot of confidence in what they do. The link is: meetministries.org Hope this helps.

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5757 2 points ago +3 / -1

In case you're interested, Amanda Grace, a fairly well known prophet, prophesied that a mother board would be discovered that is hidden under the ground in Israel. This mother board is a centcom of sorts for the DS corruption in the Israeli government. Its uncovering would lead to the exposure of corruption in the US government as well. If I have time and can find the link, I'll post it here later. This is a paraphrase of a video I watched a few weeks ago. I've been following someone with the handle of GreatWhiteLion21 who is keeping track of fulfilled prophesy and it's amounting to a lot at this point. It's happened more and more quickly. Anyways, I thought some of you might find it of interest.

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5757 7 points ago +7 / -0

Gonna go out on a limb here a little bit. Sometimes God does his greatest work when we are out of our own options. Prayer, offered in humility and righteousness, is powerful and effective (James 5:16). (For reference, I am a Bible believing Christian.) There are many Scriptures that speak to the authority of the believer over our enemies by employing the weapons of spiritual warfare. That said, you can receive from God what you have faith for not what you don't. (Matt 9:29) If you're on the fence about God or feeling weak in your faith, you could bring God what you have in terms of faith (Mark 9:24) (even if it's in the nothing category), and dig in in prayer with consistency. The enemy will resist you. Who wins is determined not only by who is the last one standing, but also by whose "truth/words" prevail. Avoid bitterness or you will miss the grace of God (Hebrews 12:15). Someone once told me that,"Until we understand that life is war, we'll never (truly) understand what prayer is for." I'll be praying for you.

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