Why’s that?
Yes, that part stuck with me too.
Have you read it or not? You keep dodging that question. It makes me think you haven’t actually read it.
Nope. I’m not
Auschwitz had several subcamps, some of which were designated for work. Not everyone who went to Auschwitz-Birkenau was killed. Many were in forced labor.
I have read Night. It's a book that sticks with you.
Have you read it?
I asked if you were and you didn't say yes so I assumed that meant no. I actually am interested, as I said before, in discussing. I said though that I'm not interested in having a one sided conversation with someone who assumes my thoughts before I have a chance to respond.
I'll go ahead and answer these. And if you like, and want to be an adult about it, I will again offer to respond to your original comment if you want to have an actual conversation instead of one where you just answer questions for me, because if you choose to act this way still then it'd be clear that you're not interested in being an adult and I'm just gonna lose interest. Again, let me know, but otherwise I'm probably not gonna respond with anything serious. Anyway, here's me taking the serious parts of your comment and answering them:
Surviving a concentration camp isn't based on skill. so I'm not sure I follow this question. He was placed in a labor camp. These weren't people who were treated well, but they weren't all just killed. While the prisoners were alive they did forced labor, so they were kept alive as long as they had use to the german soldiers. He was also moved around to a few camps
Night isn't a story that's supposed to be a history lesson, but a firsthand account of events. He told the story primarily from his own teenaged perspective. As one can assume, a prisoner who saw the gas chambers was more than likely killed, so it's not hard to understand why his firsthand accounts never included a trip through the gas chamber.
He does make several references to the crematoriums (where you can see smoke and smell the burning) though where the bodies were burned, and the mass gravesites (that he walked past).
Genuine question though, I'm not trying to be a dick. Did you read it?
Well, yes and no. I don't think the media is telling us the whole story, becuase I'm sure they don't know the full story. I am sure there is shady backdealings in the government. There is probably some now, there was probably plenty when trump was president, probably plenty when Obama was president. Bush, Reagan, JFK, Roosevelt, Lincoln, all the way back.
Do I think that the journalist at CNN knows some big secret and isn't telling us or feeding us a lie? No. I just think they report on what they think they know, and sometimes it's right and sometimes it's wrong. But that's with anything. I usually do my own research on big stories and see where info is coming from.
Covid pretty much had always come from a lab, at least how I understood it. I wasn't aware there was something else. I heard the bat soup thing but I didn't buy much into that
Personally I doubt the AZ Audits will amount to anything but we'll see!
Btw getting banned really isn't a huge deal. I've been banned from here plenty of times.
Fair enough! Take care. Sorry that you weren’t interested.
Bud you asked if I agreed with a long list of things, then wrote afterwards “No? Not surprised,” not only giving my answer but even giving your own snide response to it. So yes, incorrectly.
I’m happy to have a conversation with you but you’re assuming my thoughts and basing your arguments off of your assumptions rather than wait for me to answer.
I have read the books. I’m quite familiar with some of the stuff you’ve talked about here. You’ve only assumed I’m not and wrote so within the same comment.
So, here I am, definitively stating that I am interested in having a discussion that doesn’t have to resort to assuming the stance of the other person before they can even rebut.
Are you interested in that or not? Because if so, and you only have to say yes, I will respond to your original comment and we can go from there
So, you answered a lot of your questions for me (incorrectly for some) Did you still want me to answer? Because I’m happy to, but I’m not if this is just a one sided discussion where you say a bunch of stuff but aren’t actually interested in my response.
Lol well I’m not JDIF then haha. I’m American. Born in Ohio in a Catholic family
I haven’t dismissed everything you said. I was looking to have a discussion with you, and when you did the copy paste I was only asking about a specific part, the whole swirling knives bit. I was confused on why you decided to include that and you don’t seem to have a good answer for it.
I hadn’t brought up discussion on the other stuff so I apologize if you’ve taken that to mean I think everything you said is wrong because that’s definitely not the case.
I don’t think I have made any claim that requires sourcing, but if you’re looking for a source on something specific I said, I’d be happy to show you whatever you need!
I’m saying that believing in a room of swirling knives is the complete opposite of common sense, as is believing that an account sharing that info should be considered trustworthy.
I’m using common sense as my argument that something like that shouldn’t be used as a supporting argument that the events of the Holocaust aren’t correct
Well I don’t really know how to source whether a room of swirling knives existed when I can’t find any sources about it and I had never heard of it. I was just asking you where you got that info and why you use that as an example of the holocaust info being difficult to trust. I’m not sure how I’m supposed to source a question...
I’ve actually read Night before already. It’s a great book. None of what you mentioned (big elaborate trap doors and the like) are in that book. I’m not sure what your motive was sharing it.
What’s JIDF?
Doesn’t really make sense to me but okay! We shall see.
I don’t think so. But I also don’t recall any point in the book mentioning saw traps. Have you read this book?
I’m sorry what’s the purpose of this video? Is it to allude that the camps were full of activities instead of the atrocities? Do you know where these clips come from? Would love to see if we can listen to the full interviews!
Are you dropping the whole “room of spinning knives” thing? Because I’m still really unclear where you got that idea.
Oh I have! That’s why I was really surprised to hear about a lot of what you wrote. Rooms with trap doors and masturbation death machines is never something I came across. I’m really surprised at you touting those as suspicious because in all of the readings I’ve done I’ve never seen any historian talking about that. Like o said, it sounds like a trap from a saw movie. It’s so absurd I don’t know how you could think it was a real survivors account.
Yeah I think those are just myths. Like I said, you might want to check and see if those are actual testimony or just some kid’s fever dream. Why would you use that to discredit the actual events that took place?
Mkay so I get the feeling this was a copy paste but I gotta ask one thing, what the fuck is this room of swirling knives? That’s like some Saw movie shit lol. Are you suggesting that this was something people actually believed happened? Like historians tried to share this? Because it sounds like an urban legend that a kid made up.
If you’re using that as one ofyour barometers to “the story doesn’t check out” I think you need to do better at vetting your sources.
This movie is pretty lame
So then why are people mad at Biden, if this is all supposed to happen?
Interesting! Which part of her story doesn’t hold up, in your opinion?
The pages written in ballpoint pen were notes and corrections that were written on two loose pages that some understand as not even being part of the original diary. The ballpoint pen writing is a different person’s handwriting, and that’s widely confirmed by people who study it. Nobody is attempting to say that this ballpoint pen portion is also written by Anne Frank, so I don’t know why the OP of this chain is trying to insinuate that
Her diary wasn't written in ball point pen
EDIT: not sure why I’m getting downvoted for correcting the information. Her diary was not written in ballpoint pen. Whether you believe that Anne Frank was real or not, you don’t need to lie about it
I know you’re the one who mentioned the book, that doesn’t mean you’ve read it. it’s taken you this long to answer the question of whether or not you’ve read it so it seemed to me like you didn’t want to admit you hadn’t.
Who “widely rejects it”? What are you basing that on? Because from everything I’ve read, it’s still well regarded as a good account of what life in the camps is like. What makes you think it’s widely rejected?