What about all the African-American and Hispanic people who are having so many children now? I doubt they vote Republican.
White liberals have been dying out for decades. That's nothing new.
But isn't there a large legal immigrant base that tends to have many kids? I'm thinking about the Muslim and Hindu families as well. And Asians as well, though I don't think they have families as large as other immigrants.
What's the likelihood of them voting Republican?
I remember seeing an article a week or so ago, that the only job/company in the United States where wages have actually kept up properly with inflation was UPS and FEDEX drivers because of company policy set by the founders.
I thought the large salary UPS drivers make (or will eventually make after completing a 5 year contract) was due to negotiations with Teamsters after a strike threat.
I don't think FedEx pays nearly the same, and UPS drivers have not always made such good money. All that came about this year.
https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-workers-comments-170k-ups-driver-deal-anger-admiration-2023-8
It's interesting how often I see people here advocating for living wages. That's something I've always associated with liberals.
It was just a few years ago that the idea of paying a burger flipper $15/hr would make people angry.
What has changed?
I'm not criticizing you for your post or ideas. I am curious why attitudes concerning living wages has changed so much among conservatives.
This kind of negates the idea that we're the silent majority, you know. If 90% of US women are liberal manatees, then obviously liberals greatly outnumber us.
I think there are many good, normal, young men and women out there. They're just overlooked because normal is boring. People pay more attention to those outside the norm.
These are not one in a billion medical cases.
Pre-eclampsia is one of the most common causes of death in pregnancy. I think it is found in around 1 in 25 pregnancies.
Ectopic pregnancies are also quite common. I believe they count for 1 in 50 pregnancies.
Have you not been paying attention to what is going on concerning pedophiles and children being trafficked sexually? And even disregarding child sex trafficking, young girls are way, way way too often targeted by sexual predators.
The only example I listed that is super rare is Tay Sachs. On average, less than 20 pregnancies a year in the US have a Tay Sachs diagnosis. The average yearly number of pregnancies in the US is around 4,000,000. So 20 pregnancies out of 4,000,000 getting a Tay Sachs diagnosis each year is still much more often than one in a billion. It's about 1 in 200,000.
How are my posts derailing the consensus that abortion should generally be illegal?
All I've done is point out that there are cases where many people would support terminating a pregnancy. This was in response to posts that were dismissive of cases where the mother's life was in danger. The cases that I've brought up are a drop in the bucket of the number of abortions performed. So it doesn't jeopardize the consensus here that abortions should generally be illegal. The key word is "generally".
As I've said before, my goal is to get people to think about things from different perspectives, have empathy for others, and become more knowledgeable about things that they have strong opinions about.
Which of those motivations do you disagree with?
I'm sorry to hear about your family's tragic outcome. There are more cases like that than most people know.
The general population is largely ignorant of all the things that can go wrong in pregnancy unless they work in the field or have experienced it themselves, or know someone who has.
I aim to hopefully persuade people to become more educated on the things they have such strong opinions about.
I also hope to get people to look at things from various perspectives and to remember to have empathy for their fellow man.
Thank you for adding your experience to this post.
I don't work in an abortion clinic. You assume much. And quite wrongly. I work in a free clinic in a very poor area in Mississippi. We do not provide abortions.
The Tay Sachs case was a cousin by marriage. The pre-eclampsia case was an old high school friend. The 13 year old was a patient at our clinic.
When you work in healthcare, your friends and family tend to come to you for free advice.
Just like accountants have friends and family ask for help during tax time. Or interior decorators are always asked what color to paint their walls.
It's just a reality that people who work in certain professions are constantly hit up for free advice from family and friends. Healthcare workers and lawyers are probably at the top of the list where they are constantly asked for free advice from friends and family.
Why would you assume I work in an abortion clinic when I clearly stated in one of my posts that I was against abortions?
I simply try to get people to think about things from different perspectives, encourage them to have empathy, and suggest that they be knowledgeable about the subject if they feel strongly about it.
I tend to look at things from a philosophical standpoint, and that tends to upset people for some reason. I think perhaps people don't like their opinions challenged and don't feel comfortable exploring their own beliefs very deeply.
I'm curious, how much does the US's access to good healthcare contribute to the stance someone holds on abortion?
Would opinions change if a person were pregnant, with serious medical issues during pregnancy, and living in a country with poor healthcare and no means of heroic measures being taken to save a high risk pregnancy?
How much does our healthcare system factor into our stances on abortion, considering so many of the pro-life arguments concern our ability to use advanced, routine healthcare to save high risk pregnancies?
That's false. And the #1 treatment is asprin. Please.
I hope you don't think pre-eclampsia, and eclampsia are simply high blood pressure while pregnant and can be treated the same as a mild case of high blood pressure in non-pregnant people.
High blood pressure is just one symptom of pre-eclampsia.
This is one reason why I have these types of conversations.
If you're going to have strong opinions about a matter, you should at least know the basics you're talking about.
Please take a few minutes and read:
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gestational-hypertension-vs-preeclampsia
And yet, abortion is not limited to the left. Let's not lose sight of that, either.
I know it may be hard to hear, but there are plenty of women who consider themselves conservative, vote Republican, and still get abortions.
They just do it quietly, in my experience.
Those 500,000 fetal deaths are not all from abortions, I hope you realize. The majority of them are from.miscarriages. The body expells the baby by itself, in an effort to save the mother, or because the effects of preeclampsia leads to fetal death.
Yes, it's treatable in the US for mothers that can afford it. What of mothers who are not so fortunate and live in areas with poor healthcare?
JFK Jr. dropped out of the race before he died.
And does this mean he is really dead and not going to pop up at some time to become Trump's VP? Because that is still being said by some people. Which I've never understood, because JFK, Jr. was a lifelong liberal and Democrat.
PS- I wanted to add that he had not even officially entered the race. There was a lot of speculation about him running for Senate and his name was mentioned all the time when political pundits talked about the vacancy, but he never formally announced he was running.