I don’t know why trump loves Oz. He’s a grifter
Who are the women that you spoke with about it? Your mom, your sister, your wife? When did you talk about it with them?
ANd I answered your question already. Their agreement or disagreement in and of itself doesn't matter to me, I'm just curious if you had the discussion with them.
My question was never “do they agree,” it was “have your had this discussion with them.” Laughably, you continue to avoid answering. You’re choosing your words very carefully here, and I appreciate that, but you’re avoiding the question I’m asking. Again and again.
I’m not concerned on whether or not they agree, because as you pointed out there are plenty of people who would agree with you, and I well understand that. But I’m curious on why you haven’t had that conversation with them, and instead choose to assume their stance
You say they agree with you, But you’re not saying whether you’ve had the discussion. Do you just assume they’d agree with you in this instance as well?
This is now only the second time you’ve said that you’ve had the discussion.
Why did it take you so long to offer that info? The fact that it took this many comments for you to say as much doesn’t really bode well
You actually haven't once said whether you've had that discussion, and you continuing to avoid answering is what led me to believe you haven't. You've even supported that theory as much by suggesting it's possible they'd agree with me, in this very comment you've written.
I'm not saying it makes you wrong or right, but you seem completely unwilling to take on perspectives other than your own, and seem to actively avoid it. I'm just curious as to why.
So, have you actually had this discussion with the women in your life, about whether a 10 year old girl should be forced to carry out the pregnancy induced by familial rape?
I’m perfectly fine with people disagreeing with me. It interests me how they react when their views are challenged or differing perspectives are brought in. It’s a practice called empathy, seeing what other perspectives people have and using that information to help shape your opinions.
Why are you so opposed to having that discussion with the women you know?
So you leave the option open that they may disagree with you.
What’s stopping you from asking them just to be sure?
A lot to say only to continue avoiding asking those around you what their thoughts are. WHy are you so unwilling to do that? What harm is it to ask others what they think? Are you worried that you might be wrong, and that they may disagree with you?
You say "of course they agree" but you seemingly refuse to ask to confirm as much. It kinds of paints a picture that you draw conclusions first before looking at additional data or asking other people. If you're so sure they agree with you, what's stopping you from asking?
I’m sure there are others who disagree with me! But you still haven’t shared this with the women in your life. I think it’s foolish to just assume they’d agree with you automatically.
Maybe they will! But your hesitation in asking them makes me think that you’re worried they won’t
Your continued avoidance to answer the question tells me that no, you have not shared this information with the women in your life. Why is it so hard for you to answer direct questions that may challenge your viewpoint?
If the women in your life are pro-life, then I think it would be very valuable to share this information with them to see if you all come to the same conclusion. I’m guessing though that you would avoid that discussion, just as you avoid answering direct questions.
I see you again avoid answering the question. I think deep down maybe you know that it actually is wrong and you're digging your heels in?
So I'll ask again, have you shared with any women in your life that you wouldn't support a 10 year old getting an abortion due to pregnancy caused by her uncle raping her? If not, why not?
Have you shared this scenario with women in your life?
Actually, this is a great exercise: Do you have women in your life? A mother, a wife, a daughter, a sister? If so, have you shared with them your thoughts on this scenario?
More info for you:
The story sounds similar, but it's actually another case of this taking place in Paraguay, where she was raped by her stepfather.
You saying that it's better for her to suffer through a pregnancy is batshit fucked up, and you're incredibly cruel. I sincerely hope you don't have daughters of your own, and if you do I hope you let them read the things you've written here.
No I'd say the only thing that's fucked up is you willingly forcing a 10 year old girl to undergo pregnancy caused by a rapist uncle. Who cares for the baby after that? Is the 10 year old the caretaker? Or does it just not matter after the baby is born?
What about the 10 year old? Do you realize that a child that young/small is most likely physically unable to have a natural birth, and must undergo a C-section to deliver it? Is it just okay for her to suffer through that when she was unwilling to have sex to begin with?
I keep saying the same thing because it's absolutely worth repeating again and again. The fact that you think a 10 year old girl should be forced to carry to full term a pregnancy that was caused by the repeating rape from her uncle is SUPREMELY fucked up. In fact, the more I think about it the worse the situation is, and the more fucked up I think you truly are. I sincerely hope you ge tthe help you desperately need because you clearly do not value the life of the child.
I honestly thought that this would be the rational argument that would at least give you pause, but it hasn't. Thus, I don't think there is a rational argument that would change your mind. I think you're fucked up and cruel, and I really hope one day you find compassion and seek therapy, although it would probably cost you a lot given your state of mind.
How about 10 children vs 5 pregnant women?
5 adult women, and they're all pregnant, or 5 schoolchildren.
We all learn something new every day!
I'm pretty damn certain I'm not wrong for not wanting to force a 10 year old girl to carry a rape incest pregnancy to term, considering how likely it is that she suffers even more as a result. Pretty fucked up that you think it's the correct move to make her undergo that.
Here's the story if you want to learn more about it btw. Maybe you just haven't read up on it.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/08/20/10-year-old-girls-ordeal-have-legal-abortion-brazil
So she is still able to get a job, just not a high paying one?
I don’t understand how this explanation is necessarily true
Yes, it is absolutely fucked up that you would force a 10 year old girl to carry to term a pregnancy caused by her uncle raping her. It's absolutely, 100% fucked up.
I understand what an abortion is. I also understand that this girl having an abortion is 100% preferable to her being forced to undergo 9 months of severe body changes as the baby that was raped into her by her blood relative grows inside her as a 10 year old.
It's bonkers that you'd find that the acceptable course of action.
Why are seemingly random numbers being underlined? This is a massive reach