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formerdemfortrump 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was never anti-vax or vaccine skeptical before this one. But now I'm starting to question certain aspects of vaccinology. For example, it has started to alarm me how many vaccines we inject a baby with in such a short amount of time.

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formerdemfortrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is Catturd into more below the surface issues? (Federal Reserve, globalism. etc)? i like him and think he is really funny at times, but i just thought he was more your standard Trump style Republican.

i agree about Shapiro. he's pretty bright, but i dislike too much the forms of conservatism he embraces to listen to him much or care what he has to say.

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formerdemfortrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nicely stated. I would imagine anyone who takes the Q phenomena seriously would admit that there's more going on here than money. We talk about things like the ever expanding influence of a globalist cult, a cult that attaches itself to intelligence agencies -- and in some instances, creates them (e.g. CIA) -- throughout the world. A cult that seeks to enact a one world government and establish a nightmarish form of Feudalism. Blackmail networks. Secret societies.

While it is certainly true that seeking lots of cash in the short run is a powerful motive of groups, I don't know how anyone who stops their analysis there could be seriously interested in something like the Great Awakening.

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formerdemfortrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

huh, really? I checked and they only have like a 12 year difference between them I think. I wouldn't think Hussein would cross paths with her until later on.

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formerdemfortrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

I thought about that too. Worth considering. But I think they'd have a much better time of putting Trump in a legal jam with the NY prosecutor, trying to go after his finances in some way. I think they'd be grasping at straw there too, but trying to get Trump on a coup attempt would be kind of looney tunes in terms of legal argument. Just think of how embarrassingly bad the Dems legal arguments were for the January 6th "case."

And those charges were brought in the much less stringent context of impeachment. If they try something even dumber in a criminal court, I can't see how it won't flop.

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formerdemfortrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not really focused on the date but the very fact that there are murmurings that Trump is making this claim. Also the media seems so interested in it. And a person on the Trump team more or less gave us the classic: "I cannot confirm or deny."

For me personally, that stuff seems weightier to me than your standard Q proof type thing (I'm kinda sick of them honestly), but that's just my very subjective impression. It's just about the closest we've gotten to open acknowledgement.

But of course, I have no idea in terms of dates., For me, at the moment, it just kinda feels like the plan is for real. It's been a while since I've felt this. But I wouldn't bet the farm on it either of course.

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formerdemfortrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

To be honest, it's really hard for me to picture it either. But these very recent happenings and media stories have been the closest to letting me "picture it."

Maybe it comes down to learning style or something. Most of the Pompeo tweet connections did nothing for me.

Here we actually do seem to be seeing the two major camps at least try to out bluff each other.

Oh and if it does really happen, I think it would have to be something like:

Biden --> Biden forced to resign --> interim military government -- > Trump.

But of course, my guess is as good as anyone's.

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formerdemfortrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

I get that. That's where I've been for a couple months now. I pretty much tuned out of politics entirely, focused on some old interests, and learned as much as I could about these vaccines from a biological/medical perspective.

But this stirred something in me because now we have a date allegedly straight out of Trump's mouth. Also, I'm not too caught up on the August date, but rather that there are murmurings that Trump himself is acknowledging that he may return.

In some ways I might actually be more doubtful than you are actually. My doubts don't surround dates so much as the question of whether there's a plan at all. I sometimes worry there aren't enough white hats. And it all seems too incredible sometimes.

The recent dates under discussion, interestingly, are not related to a Q post. Q's post can be so cryptic that you can make a lot of things work. But we are seeing these issues played out in a much less disguised form. We are getting very undisguised discussions about "the big issue" in a back and forth between Trump's camp and the media. I think the media is being less disguised about things; and Trump's camp appears less disguised too.

I dip in and out of Q research, so am certainly no expert, but I don't remember the media ever engaging with Q stuff like they have the past few days. In the sense of putting out there for discussion one of the biggest pieces: Trump's return.

It's funny though because I really can see your position. I've gotten tired of the whole thing. We must just be running on different clocks or cycles :)

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formerdemfortrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

I agree some part of them does want Trump back in office.

But they eventually stopped showing Trump even though the ratings were so good. So I think you make a good observation that they realize Trump = $$$$$, and they wish they could still have that.

But ultimately I agree with ProudofAmerica. While MSM wants lots of money, there's too much at stake with him in office. Look at how they would virtually stop covering Trump when he got too hot to handle (e.g. voter fraud). The media's handlers had too much at stake with Trump in office. So much so that the money's not worth it.

"The Agenda" is more important to them ultimately then money.

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formerdemfortrump 18 points ago +18 / -0

Exactly my friend. We're thinking the same thing. It really looks like panic. If I were a normie, I would think the claim that Trump was going to be reinstated was so absurd it didn't need debunking. But they feel the need to do just that. They're shaky.

I guess you could play devil's advocate and argue they're still trying to milk some money out of the Orange Man Bad routine, but it just feels bigger than that to me.

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formerdemfortrump 6 points ago +6 / -0

Because for "them" it's bigger than just the Democrats winning. It's not so much about putting forward a Democratic agenda as it is about preserving the power of the elites, the Globalists, and the Deep State, The corrupt Democrat and Republican elites could not stand having Trump for another four years because they knew that would likely lead to their undoing.

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formerdemfortrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree. I can’t see this as being real. But maybe I’m underestimating how untouchable they felt.

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formerdemfortrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting. I didn’t realize that Rand Paul voted against Pompeo’s nomination.

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formerdemfortrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good point. I should point out that I actually do, as it were, keep a watchful eye on Pompeo. But I don't dismiss his statements out of hand because of his past work with the CIA.

For me, this is even more the case with Steve Pieczenik. He likely has an ulterior motive that he is not sharing with us, but that doesn't mean he doesn't provide us useful information here and there.

And of course, Trump himself. I think Trump has been the best president of my lifetime, but I can't help but cringe at how unapologetically pro-Zionist he is. At this point, whether some like it or not, Israel is our ally. I concede this point. But America First should mean just that: America First. Not America First (and "oh btw Israel too").

But as you say, we are not in a Western with black and white good guys and bad guys.

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formerdemfortrump 34 points ago +34 / -0

Exactly. I see too many people on these boards that have an unrealistic conception of how to navigate in this world (e.g. people immediately dismissing Pompeo because of his CIA work). There are good people working within seriously compromised institutions. That goes for the FBI, the CIA, the IRS, the US Military.

We cannot escape from existing in a Fallen world. We have to make the best of it.

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formerdemfortrump 3 points ago +4 / -1

That raises the question of whether the vaccine's functionality requires aborted fetal cells. I'm certainly no expert in vaccines, but something tells me the vaccine could be made with something other than fetal cells. I certainly hope so, at least.

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