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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or I just don't think it was staged. Just saying Susan Bro and Donna Soto look a like is an opinion. Same goes for every look alike claim, it's all subjective.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

What am I denying? There's no evidence of crisis actors being used at Sandy Hook, it's just people's opinion.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are the parents of the kids really married or are the marriages and other children part of their act?. Those parents have jobs we were told about, are those jobs real or just a created backstory? Robbie Parker for example, was a Physician Assistant in 2012. According to Washington state records, he has a PA license there, been active since Feb 2014. Is that license real or is Washington state in on it too? Are the names they used at Sandy Hook their real names or stage names?

Just saying someone is a crisis actor based on a press conference or interview is not evidence, it's more of an opinion.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

The family, friends, co-workers, acquaintances would know if that parent had kid or not. All it would take is one person seeing a parent talking about their murdered child and that person watching to know it was BS and start talking about.it. If they were in on it, it would be very difficult to track down every person the actors came in contact with.

What about all the cops that were at the school, were they actors too? There were about 80 cops from various police dept,'s that would be a lot of family and friends to keep quiet.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

You also have to include the family, friends and acquaintances of those 1 in a 1000 people.

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jjis2022 2 points ago +2 / -0

Any source to back that up? You can check the town records.

https://publicrecords.netronline.com/state/CT/county/newtown

Rosen, Scarlett Lewis and the Wheeler's still live there. Chase Kowalski's parents too.

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jjis2022 0 points ago +3 / -3

Donna Soto was in attendance and testified at the Jones trial in Connecticut. Would have been easy for someone to check Bros whereabouts at that time. I doubt conspiracy theorists are willing to put in that much effort though. It's easier just to post photos and say they look a like.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

https://www.joincake.com/blog/what-happens-when-someone-is-killed-in-a-car-accident/#:~:text=Once%20the%20coroner%20is%20finished,determine%20the%20cause%20of%20death.

"Once the coroner is finished at the scene, the dead body is transported to the morgue under the coroner’s care. At the morgue, further investigation may be needed to determine the cause of death."

That's an example for a car accident. But a mass shooting would be similar.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

Carver's team were not attending to the victims. By the time Carver got there, the victims had been dead for some time.

It wasn't like the victims were spread out over a large area. They were confined spaces. Mostly in classroom's 8 and 10. The child victims in room 8 were piled in the bathroom where they were trying to hide.

The school had to be secured before any other medics could be brought in. That is standard procedure. But even if EMT's got in their quicker it's likely no one would have survived. A Hartford trauma surgeon reviewed the autopsies. He found the victims died almost immediately.

Hartford Consensus

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Paramedics. Do. Not. Leave. Shooting. Victims. On. The. Floor. All. Day."

You think identifying 25 dead bodies can be done in minutes?

Five paramedics did their jobs, but 25 of the victims were already dead. Nothing else could be done for them. They were dead, no need to take them to the hospital.

Cops do not allow non-authorized people to go into crime scenes. The only people that were going in that school were cops and Carver's team. That's it.

You should watch Carver's deposition. It starts with Fetzer asking him questions.

Carver Deposition

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

It wasn't 28, you're including Nancy Lanza. She was shot at her house.

Why would they take dead bodies to the hospital? Carver and people had a job to do. Photographing and cleaning the bodies so they could be properly identified. Identifying 25 dead people, all that paper work is going to take some time. Not going to do that at the hospital. You think it's odd they'd be left in the school, but you think it would be OK if they were left outside on the tarps in the parking lot?

The school was a crime scene, no parent was going to be let in there. The investigate was going on.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

" You think it’s normal for a small team of men to declare 28 people dead and leave them laying on the floor?"

They were dead, there would be no need to take them to the hospital at that point. You think it would be normal to take 25 dead bodies(2 died at the hospital) out the school and lay them down on tarps in the parking lot? I doubt that would be the proper procedure. The temp mortuary tent was put up, that's where each body was taken to get photographed and cleaned.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

What were they supposed to do with the dead bodies? Parents weren't going to be let into the school to see the bodies, the school was a crime scene. Only cops and Carver's people were going in there.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right, but they weren't going to take the dead bodies from the school and lay them out on tarps in the parking lot.Once they were declared dead by the EMT's in the school Carver and his team started photographing and cleaning the bodies for identification. Once all that was complete, they were taken to his office the evening of the 14th.

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jjis2022 -1 points ago +1 / -2

The triage wasn't used because most of the victims were already dead. Cario, Dragon and Chapman were checking the victims to see if any were alive. Two children still had life signs, Cario and Chapman each took one out. Both kids died at the hospital. There were two wounded adults, Natalie Hammond and Deborah Pisani. Hammond went to the hospital and Pisani is seen at the secondary triage near the firehouse.

Carver was a medical examiner, medical examiners do not order cops around. It would not have been up to Carver to lock up the school.

"The creepy parents—NONE of whom sued anybody"

They have sued Jones, Halbig, Remmington, one sued Fetzer. Some attempted to sue Newtown and the school board but the suit was thrown out.

Parents Sue Newtown

The estate of Nancy Lanza was also sued, the estate settled.

Estate Sued

If you live in the US, go to your tax assessor page and put in random addresses. You'll find homes with $0, $1, or something very cheap. It's common in the US.

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jjis2022 1 point ago +1 / -0

They didn't run past the firehouse. The bus driver pulled into the firehouse parking lot and then the kids came over to her.

If you were in Rosen's position and you looked over and saw kids kids crying, wouldn't you go over there and see what was going on?

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jjis2022 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Rosen lives right next to the firehouse. The bus driver was in her own car and saw a group of kids running down Riverside. She pulled into the firehouse parking lot and called to the kids to come to her. As they were talking, Rosen saw them and went over. They all then went to his house. From there the parents of the kids were called.

Any person in Rosen's position would have done the same thing.

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jjis2022 0 points ago +1 / -1

"In Connecticut, only a licensed physician (as w most states) can declare someone deceased"

Source for that law in Connecticut? Carver said in a deposition that a competent EMT can declare someone dead. One of the EMT's in the school was Matt Cassavechia, head of Emergency Medical Services at Danbury hospital.

https://youtu.be/0aVboIyQ20U?t=6720

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