Before you comment or vote, read my post... I know about Q. I don't believe in Q, or more precisely, I don't believe the theory behind it and I don't believe the things Q has been saying will come true. I used to lowkey trust the plan, but I called it "wishful thinking" and I always found the so-called proofs more than a little far-fetched, in the vein of "Q said the word [dog]! Dogs bark, bark grow on trees, three comes after two therefore Trump will have 2 terms".
It's especially jarring where people try to connect the dots of what is happening today with Q drops from 2017!!! Fkin 2017!!! Let's entertain the idea that Q is a real group in the upper echelons of the military with all the insight that comes with that... how the hell could they have predicted everything in 2018, 2019 and 2020? Especially the Chinkenpox and the election fraud. It's not plausible.
It's mental pareidolia.
I know that I am prone to confirmation bias and will believe favorable things easier. Therefore when something is favorable to my cause yet I still find it fishy, it's a HUGE red flag that it's bullshit.
Make no mistake, I believe the existence of pedo rings, pizzagate, spirit cooking, etc to the maximum. For that, I have seen real proof. The only thing I doubt is that there's a force of good capable of opposing them in a meaningful way. Simply put, I believe all the bad things you do, but very few of the good things. A depressing view, I know!
Now, make your bets and STICK with it. If you're saying that the big Happening will happen on inauguration day, then I'm okay with that and will wait till that day. But don't move the goalposts. Don't say biden being inaugurated will be part of the plan when it comes down to it. Or if you're saying we need to wait until March (for some reason)... then let it be March. But don't push it to April once you said March, remember your statements! I will take everything and wait for it to come true. This is the watershed moment.
If you turn out to be right... then I will make another post urging you to call me a weak-willed faggot doomer and every name in the book. Spray it on me like Yang sprays whipped cream into the mouth of guys. I will be too ecstatic to care and will probably jump around in joy. I'd cut my left arm off with a hatchet if that meant a 2nd term for Trump. But I'm too realistic to believe that at this point.
And so, if I turn out to be right... and there are no military tribunals and instead the USA is stuck with a President Harris... then I will make another post calling you... not good things.
I am not a glowie. I am making this thread in good faith, not looking to shill or divide. You may believe me or not. I am a private citizen (who doesn't even live in the USA and) who genuinely wants this wild ride to end. I'm ping-ponged between despair and hopium every day. I want a conclusion to this mad saga already!
And yes, if you want to go through my comment section, you will find that I made comments on TD referring to Q believers as Qultists. I admit that. But I made this post because I realized that it would be dishonest to bash you guys without first hearing your side of the story.
And let me be clear... I would pay almost everything to LOSE this bet. I want to lose this bet and see four more years of that golden-maned bastard smirking smugly like a hyena in the Oval Office. But I, sadly, probably won't.
Mod here. Sorry to sticky my own comment, but, these posts are nothing short of stunning to some of us who have been doing this forever. I already made a bet with myself. You want a bet? Go back four years, help build PG8 on Twitter (1000 posts a day for three months), resarcher on /r/DNCLeaks, founding mod of r/GreatAwakening, you want a bet? Go back four years and literally retire, quit all your jobs and live off your savings to make this happen. Then do "this" (whatever this even is—my wife still thinks Biden is getting inaugurated and that I'm a loon), non-stop, 60h/week of your life, lose all your life-long friends (but make tons of amazing new ones) but... in the end... lose it all to the globalist Communists. See what I mean? THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU COULD BET ENOUGH TO EVEN MATCH WHAT SO MANY OF US ALREADY HAVE INVESTED. Listen, bud. Every doomer, hear this: There's only one name in the book I want to call you if this movement fails: PRISONER. We lose, and this thread pales in comparison to the entire planet falling. We lose, and it's absolutely OVER.
Hello Mod. Thanks for not nuking the thread.
Honestly, I have to agree - even though as I mentioned in this thread, I live in Hungary, I will probably feel the fallout of a "Harris administration". If the Great Reset comes in then Hungary will experience communism for the third time in its long life. The buck doesn't stop at the USA, and most people don't understand that!
On the other hand, if I have to stay rational... this is what I am talking about. It's the sunken cost fallacy. You have invested so much resource (for which I give my respect) into this cause that you can't afford to ponder on the possibility of being wrong - even though there's a non-zero chance for that scenario. I'm not saying that mockingly. I do creative pursuits in my life and in my teenage years, one of my creations had been forever lost. Even though it was the work of mere months, it hurt like hell. I wish you the best in life and may you never go through something like that.
Please, if I turn out to be wrong, give me a permanent "doomer faggot" flair or just ban me straight ahead. I await the 20th anxiously and may the globalists get fucked forever, hopeless as I am.
It's a common misconception that Q "predicted" anything. It's not a fucking divine prophecy, or a psychic, or a time traveler.
The idea is that Q has a very complex plan, in the making for many years, and that the posts are just little bits and pieces of that plan. The "predictions coming true" now, are just confirmations that the plan has been in motion and is indeed going as planned.
That is a possibility. I wish you were right, and maybe you will be.
Well that's the thing, we here have every reason to believe this is right. We're not just prodding around in the dark looking for anything out of everything to line up a little bit, and go "ooh it must be proof!!" (although a lot of it is like that, in the search to find any true grain of sand) - but there are several instances of absolutely undeniable confirmations of Q that cannot be explained by coincidence. They are direct but coded messages directly from trump's twitter, or from actual real world events, etc. Too many like this to ignore.
When you come to a site like this without having followed Q, I can absolutely understand your skepticism. Most of us started skeptical too. It seems like most posts here are just bullshit attempts to find meaning in something random. But believe me, there is a reason so many people are here and are so adamant about Q being real. At this point it seems LESS likely that Q is fake.
Don't worry, I won't make more posts until the 20th. Doing so would just make others think I'm a bad actor.
You have no idea how I wish to be wrong, lol.
You can call me a faggot no matter what happens because that is exactly what I am.
Love your comments, barry
I completely understand where your coming from. The concept that this country could be taken over so easily is mind boggling.
We won't do that here. I won't at least. It's not about who's right. It's about saving the future of this republic and mass awakening. I honestly don't care enough about gloating to the other side anymore. Once all is said I done, I'm just going to take a long break from the internet and enjoy the real world.
Yes, that was the true goal of my post, thank you for noticing. And I feel the same.
If biden gets in, it's probably over. I won't let the fire of hope die until I stop breathing though, I will die believing that we're not the only ones who tried to protect the republic until our last breaths. God claims us all in the end.
That is good. Biden getting in is not the apocalypse, although it is certainly dark news for the world. But paraphrasing Trump; "Don't let fear dominate your life". Even under the oppressive yoke of the Soviet Union people managed to find figments of happiness. I am from a former Soviet Bloc country, I know how bad it can be.
I have neighbors that lived under the Soviets, I told them "Real Americans will never live like dogs"
I'll be completely honest. I'm new here and don't know much about this. But if Biden becomes president. I'll be done.
This bet is a win-win for you and we get nothing out of it.
That is true, but it was you who chose to believe in Q first and I chose to disbelieve it later. Then it would only make sense that I get the more favorable position.
But obviously, this post is not about a "bet". It's about a discussion to find out if anyone else feels like me, or if anyone has a counterargument to what I am saying.
Had you been following from the start, the things that happened in real time (proofs) would help you believe 100%. The 2017 "happenings" could be explained by Project Looking Glass. As for me, I'm going to have faith and know that no matter how it happens, the end result will be the eradication of this evil cabal, one way or another. And datefagging causes others to disbelieve, when Q has never claimed a specific date for any occurrence. Thats just people guessing.
Biden will not be inaugurated IMHO! It's not because of Q I think that. It's because I believe brazen Fraud took place during the election and I believe POTUS and others have 100% proof of the Fraud. You have to be really stupid to think that Biden got more votes than POTUS just by observing Biden's measly rallies compared to POTUS rallies of thousands. POTUS isn't going to let him slide in and be president through Fraudulent means. I've was on Voat for a couple of years before coming here and I have never really stayed and put all my belief into Q. In fact, all that code stuff and numbers stuff for me is just to hard to stay up with. I like these chats we have on the board, because I can relate to a lot of stuff people bring up in the past that I lived through. In fact Frank Zappa Jr. came up the other day on this board and I can relate because I had Frank Zappa Sr. for a substitute math teach three or four times in high school. I grew up in Ontario, CA before it became the Liberal capital of the world. I went in the Military in 67 and had a lot of experiences through life.. I'm Born Again Christian, Retired Military and a Patriot and have served Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George Bush while in uniform. I'm 72 now and still have a lot of Patriotism to share.
I am 100% convinced of the fraud. I know about the shredded ballots, the freshly printed ballots, the machine-filled ballots, the Dominion vote flips, the Project Veritas videos... Biden probably got 40 million against Trump's 100 million. That would be my estimate.
What I'm saying is that even if you have a mountain of evidence, nothing will come out of it. The left is just that brazen. But let me be proven wrong.
I think you will be! It was blatant Treason in your face! Who would accept that?
SCOTUS would, as disgraceful as it is.
I don't care about making a post to talk shit about you. I like money. I bet you $1,000 this shit goes down. And by "this shit" I mean Biden and Harris will not be President. I don't buy into the whole worldwide mass arrests. I think that is crazy. But I've read and reread the EO's pertaining to this, I've looked at all the whitehouse statements, Trump is has studied Sun Tzu like no other. He was prepared for this. He saw it coming from a mile away.
I'm poor as fuck right now. You might laugh at me but the best I can do is 20 bucks. If you do want to bet 20 bucks then we can make that bet. I will be the happiest person on Earth who ever lost $20.
I would be more than happy to take that bet. But honestly, if you are broke, I'd feel bad about taking your money. I'll tell you what, if you are right, I'll send you the $20 anyways. If I'm right, which I think I am, then you can keep the $20 cause we both win anyways.
Thank you, and while I gotta say, I shamelessly wish to accept your offer - my mom didn't raise no grifter. I'm broke at present, but I'm getting paid some time in February. I'm willing to bet $100. If you lose you pay 100, if I lose I pay 100. If I lose, I won't be able to pay immediately but I swear on all I hold sacred that I will pay once I'm getting my money.
Apologies for the low amounts - I live in Hungary, Central-Eastern European country, we're not exactly a luxurious place. But it's good enough.
Hi, Biden was sworn in as President. Will you keep your word? You offered me a bet of a 1000 dollars, and although I could only agree to 100 - it seems like I won.
I've never bet money in my life before. All my "bets" so far have had the symbolic reward of "who turns out to be right". That's what a bet means to me, usually.
And I'm broke cause I live in Hungary.
haha, I've thought about posting something very similar to this about moving the goal posts. Took some balls to come here and actually do it. Respect you for that.
If I was forced to bet on all this and stick with it... then I would bet on election day there are huge riots at the capitol and all over America. Then I would bet the democrats use that as an excuse to take our guns and suppress us in any way possible. Then I would bet the US gets so destabilized that the dollar collapses and in turn the world economy collapses. Then I would bet all the nations of the world band together and form some sort of one world government/economy. Then I would bet they force people to pledge allegiance and give up their free will in order to participate in that economy. I would be that this allegiance is sealed with a mark in the hand or forehead. Then I would bet the world devolves into utter chaos over the next 7 years. Then I would bet during all this that they start killing Christians and others who refuse to pledge allegiance. Then after around 7 years of this I would bet that Jesus Christ himself returns and destroys it all and sets up his kingdom on earth as people have prayed for thousands of years.
A plan can always be foiled.
But there is definitely a plan. We've seen enough to know that shit is going on. Shit we are not 100% privy to, but absolutely out of the norm.
And a lot for me depends on what happens on the 20th and the week after. I'm not moving the goalposts. I don't have a set day and date. Neither does the movement. There is an end goal, but there isn't a concrete date.
That is a reasonable comment. Let me rephrase myself, I also believe Trump had a plan, and it was relying on law enforcement, the courts and the legislatures. That plan failed.
I have read his 2018 EO against foreign interference, but so far it has only been used to sanction Russia regarding Tony Bobulinski... the opposite of what should have been happening. I'm not too optimistic about that either.
I go back and forth. I think we all do. But there's something to be said about faith. We see it around us in smaller ways all the time. I see it work. Now I like to imagine on a worldly scale, if we just kept the faith and stopped with the negative bullshit maybe we could affect change.
I believe we've been given a blueprint to negativity, self loathing and that intense cynicism my generation perfected {gen X}. It's very difficult to break our self imposed shackles without a massive worldwide exorcism. A great awakening.
It can be done, and the plan was to help us get the
How bizarre.
Watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z15Xt1vGXns
Ok I understand your position and for a long while held the same. But after just merely glancing around the post/drops/chatter I started to research more.
As for proofs, one on another thread a few mins ago was asking about the phrase "Tippy Toppy" and which drop? Now to understand, the request early on for POTUS to prove he was connected in some way was made on the Chans. An anon asked for the words tip top to be said by POTUS.
It was close to Easter, and POTUS gave his balcony speech, with the white rabbit (which was also used a great deal in drops) and said the words "Tip top tippy toppy"!
With a drop straight after from Q asking if we had heard it. Now yes you could, to a point possibly say it was coincidence, but the white rabbit? After we had been told to "follow the white rabbit" - it was a direct comm imo.
There are plenty more, pictures that appear in Marine 1, you do an image search and it is no where online, an original. Or on AF1 the same, a picture totally original and never published. That's hard for a LARP to pull off?
And plenty of things that are more than mere coincidence. Now do I know who Q is? No. Is it a force for good or bad? I believe good but could well be wrong.
Lastly, look at the bigger picture. For 4 years, daily hell hourly, all these people have attacked Trump. Constantly, maniacally, every hour of every day attacks from the MSM, (owned by wealthy elites) Weiner (done for sexting a minor) Clinton, Obama (who really orders 65k dollars worth of "hot dogs" from Chicago for a Whitehouse party) Brennan, Comey, Clapper, the list is endless! It's almost like they had to somehow stop him - and failed to this point. Do you really believe that half the USA would just hand the Country over to China, without a fight?
Hey if I'm completely wrong, holla at me and call me every name there is, no problem I'll put my hands up and say yup I've been duped. But for the sake of the Country, even the world I sincerely hope I'm right and you are wrong.
Regards.
Fair enough. I am not completely convinced either way, but we'll see soon enough. All I'm saying is that "if it's too good to be true..." and Q defo sounds too good to be true.
You are a glowing faggot either way.
Too many of us have put up with that type of bs circular logic for too long. Gtfo.
Feel free to come collect either way though.
I'm a Hungarian citizen living in Hungary. If you doubt me then I can photograph a message of your choosing in front of something uniquely Hungarian, like a grocery store with products of Hungarian names. I'm just interested in US politics and even own Trump merch.
You're lucky to live in Hungary, Hungary is BASED!
Thanks! I love my country. It has suffered a lot through its long history, but it's a beautiful land. Feel free to visit anytime if you have the money for such a trip.
I am a Balkan pede myself, Hungary is close, will visit sometime!
I don't care where you are from. You are using strawman and other bull shit arguing tactics. Enough.
Dude, chill. I promise that I'll apologize and admit that I was a hopeless doomer IF I turn out to be wrong. But don't count me out just yet.
Years ago when i was in college it was when political correctness first started coming about.
We weren't allowed to say 'failed' a test
It was 'deffered success', which makes sense as if biden's gets in you have not lost, your win is in the future.
And as I said to the Mod, that kind of thinking leads you into the trap of fallacies. You cannot look away from a scenario just because it would be horrible. Think of the deep state: for them, a Trump presidency was unimaginably horrible, and as such they dreaded the possibility. Aka "they never imagined she would lose'.
...or so you'd think. The deep state is evil, but smart to the extremes. They did imagine she would lose, and as such they set up their "insurance policy"... as we know from Strzok and Page.
The deep state was prepared to be wrong. ARE YOU?