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Biden commenting on the letter Trump left for him...
posted 5 years ago by Somebeach 5 years ago by Somebeach +123 / -0

NEW - Biden says "The president wrote a very generous letter," referring to Trump. "Because it was private, I won't talk about it until I talk to him. But it was generous."

This taken from the US Military Voice Telegram Channel.

I'm betting the 'generosity' was the deal Biden cut with Trump...

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– afmamhwsstL 40 points 5 years ago +40 / -0

Generous is a strange way to describe a letter...

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– jump3r34 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Agreed. If the actual word generous was used, that is a little suspect! Haha.

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– BasedInFact 27 points 5 years ago +27 / -0

Yeah. “Generous” is an interesting word. “Gracious” would be the adjective most might expect.

But then again Joe Biden is the 2000 year old man... and a shaky looking one at that. So he many not exactly be a walking thesaurus.

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– TDwinnnnn 21 points 5 years ago +21 / -0

“Joe, you know I won."

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– Mmceld1 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

He also said this live on Fox. The media were then rushed out of the room.

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– Mmceld1 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

There is no link I watched it LIVE

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– Mmceld1 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

He didn't seem to act any differently than he had all day which was old and confused. He just said it was very generous, and he won't say what was in it until he speak to Trump about it.

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– Ssue1216 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

now THAT would be a twist. It would actually fit Trump's style. very cool :)

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– Nevergiveup2them 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Cut a deal to save Hunter? A fathers love? If I recall that was a drop that I personally thought was about PDJT.

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– Longhairedzombie 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Joe is President of a bankrupt corporation while Trump is the President of the Republic, still going with Justice Clarence doing a secret swearing in for Trump today.

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– Mr_A 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I was thinking asking those lines earlier. But if you look up military codes 11.3, you'll see the solution is much simpler. The Corp will be important for lots of other things. Just my opinion.

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– Scutigera_coleoptrat 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Trump is the alpha. He can take the high road and still not be a cuck. A generous letter is not out of character for a guy like Trump. He knows that Biden knows that Trump knows.

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– bubble_bursts 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

link ?

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– Somebeach [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

https://t.me/USmilitaryVoice/380

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– UnseenHand 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Imagine if old jo goes craaazy and starts making charges against the deep state?

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– Somebeach [S] 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Be a reason for them to try and use the 25th on Joe...

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– third3y3guy 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Generous could be used differently.

In a cooking recipe, "use generous amount of salt" means a good amount.

Maybe the letter contained tons of insults, then it is generous in it's amount of insults.

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– RitcherBelmont 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Generous... what could it be? Reduced from death penalty to life in gitmo for his brilliant acting?

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– arterius2 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

"Life for a life, yours for your son Hunter."

  • This offer expires at midnight tonight.
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– sukebandeka 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Tbh, it would just mean Trump was kind. Probably good luck, you can do it, all the bullshit platitudes under the sun.

He probably didn't expect a letter at all. I wouldn't read into it.

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– pickletoe 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Didn’t Obama pardon himself before he left?

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– weholdthesetruths 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

You can't pardon people who haven't been convicted of anything.

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– weholdthesetruths 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah I already said I stood corrected.

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– weholdthesetruths 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

What would you be pardoning?

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– weholdthesetruths 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Are you hearing yourself? You pardon people for crimes they were convicted of. Are you suggesting Presidents just go around pardoning people for no reason? To shield them from some future prosecution maybe? Are you aware of that ever happening? How many people have US Presidents pardoned that weren't found guilty of a crime? Of what value would be the pardon.

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– inverse_osmosis 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You pardon people for crimes they have committed, whether there's been a conviction or not, whether there's been an indictment or not, whether they've been charged or not. The individual can choose to accept the pardon or not. Accepting it is seen as an admission of guilt.

A notable example would be Jimmy Carter preemptively pardoning the 500,000 Vietnam draft offenders (causing many of them who had fled abroad to return home).

More on-the-nose, perhaps, would be Ford's pardoning of Nixon. His very broad preemptive pardon literally reads "a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes that he might have committed against the United States as president."

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– MrBlueSky 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The word you're looking for is amnesty.

"A pardon is distinguished from "a commutation of sentence," which cuts short the term; "a reprieve," which is a temporary halt to punishment, particularly the death penalty, pending appeal or determination of whether the penalty should be reduced; "amnesty," which is a blanket forgiving of possible criminal charges due to a change in public circumstances " https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pardon

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– weholdthesetruths 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I'm sure you're smart enough to spell it out. Pardoning is a legal act that undoes another legal act (conviction). What has the Supreme Court said about pre-pardoning people for crimes they haven't even been convicted of and what would I even type in to find that?

And fuck Google.

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– magapult 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

No you can't. To pardon someone, that person must have pleaded guilty of the crime first - or convicted.

For instance Trump pardoned Flynn, after he was officially convicted. In 2017 Flynn himself admitted to lying to the FBI about contacts with Russia's ambassador... but then tried to withdraw his plea. Either way, that's how Trump was able to pardon him, because he was proven guilty (in the justice system). And this will forever be in his biography now, that he was guilty but got a pardon.

Not unlike how Trump again pardoned another felon, Lil Wayne. Lil Wayne was carrying a gun while already beign a felon which was illegal. Being officially convicted of a crime, Trump was able to pardon him.

Point is, the crime has to be officially recognized as such before someone can be pardoned. The whole thing about the pardon is telling someone that despite their crime, they will walk free. And you can't pardon someone who comitted no crimes.

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– inverse_osmosis 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

In Ex parte Garland, 71 U.S. 333 (1866), the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that

  1. The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject to legislative control.

  2. A pardon reaches the punishment prescribed for an offence and the guilt of the offender. If granted before conviction, it prevents any of the penalties and disabilities consequent upon conviction from attaching; if granted after conviction, it removes the penalties and disabilities and restores him to all his civil rights. It gives him a new credit and capacity. There is only this limitation to its operation: it does not restore offices forfeited, or property of interests vested in others in consequence of the conviction and judgment.

This is still established law today. So you're, like, super wrong.

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– numina18 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Genuine answer: he is not president and has NO POWER! He maybe could pardon his beloved dog for peeing on the carpet— no wait! Sorry, that’s Doctor Jillies wheelhouse. Sorry Joe....m

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– gigabump 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you!

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– Awokcanuck 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Not if he is illegitimate, elected by fraud.

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– gigabump 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You realize the Military is in control for the next ten days, right? You're watching the show ... relax and watch the show.

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– intellectual-darkweb 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I think revealing the crimes would be almost as disastrous for them. They play for all the marbles, and will get none.

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