Right and when they timestamped the inauguration later in the day the process of swearing in was started before noon. I would think that would ? change the legitimacy.
As I mentioned, the timing of the oath is irrelevant (I know it was completed at about 12 minutes before noon). The old President is done at noon (as per the 20th Amendment) and the new President takes over at that point.
This is not something that matters from a constitutional standpoint.
The current government was placed into office by a fraudulent election, which the militsry has evidence of, and is therefore an illegitimate and belligerent entity. That is not a POTUS
US Marshals can arrest a sitting President. Pretty sure the Secret Service can detain him, too. In fact, I don't recall the President having immunity from being arrested at all. A coup can still happen.
peak autism to think that a sitting president can just be like "neenerr neenerr" and do all kinds of illegal shit with immunity.
That's not how the law works.
You might need an Air Fucking Tight case to detain and force everyone else to stand down while it sorts out, but to think that it can't be done is ludicrous
No. Special Counsel Durham will start arresting more swamp rats, and Biden will start doing the ole "mentally incompetent" routine more, which will probably lead to the 25th amendment.
There is nothing infinite in this temporal reality. If there were, the entire universe would be filled with it and then there still wouldn't be enough room to fit them all.
Impeachment is when you want to remove someone from office, without killing them. As many have discovered since our founding, it is so toothless and so political that it serves but one purpose: to humiliate a president.
You can still kill traitors, no matter how fancy their crown is. Once you commit treason, you are no longer protected by any of the laws of our country, but are treated as an enemy combatant. If you do see trial, it will be as a foreign national by a military tribunal.
King Charles thought he was immune from prosecution and execution because he was king. He was wrong.
Remember, at this level of the "game", it's not about laws. It's about justice and what is morally acceptable to a people. The only real rules when you start killing people for treason is when do you stop killing them and how do you prevent it from devolving into outright gang war. The "game" after all is how do you run a state without people killing YOU.
Not if it wasn't a legitimate inauguration. What was missing in the oath and it was done before noon as well
Or perhaps im completely incorrect in what I am perceiving.
You are. Nothing was missing in the oath and the time the oath occurs is not relevant.
The Presidencies change over at noon exactly. Old President is out, the new President is in. 20th Amendment, I believe.
Yes. Unless Trump has done something "behind the scenes" Biden is the """legitimate""" president.
You know, """"""""legitimate""""""""
Right and when they timestamped the inauguration later in the day the process of swearing in was started before noon. I would think that would ? change the legitimacy.
As I mentioned, the timing of the oath is irrelevant (I know it was completed at about 12 minutes before noon). The old President is done at noon (as per the 20th Amendment) and the new President takes over at that point.
This is not something that matters from a constitutional standpoint.
The current government was placed into office by a fraudulent election, which the militsry has evidence of, and is therefore an illegitimate and belligerent entity. That is not a POTUS
US Marshals can arrest a sitting President. Pretty sure the Secret Service can detain him, too. In fact, I don't recall the President having immunity from being arrested at all. A coup can still happen.
Nobody knows what the fuck is going on though.
peak autism to think that a sitting president can just be like "neenerr neenerr" and do all kinds of illegal shit with immunity.
That's not how the law works.
You might need an Air Fucking Tight case to detain and force everyone else to stand down while it sorts out, but to think that it can't be done is ludicrous
No. Special Counsel Durham will start arresting more swamp rats, and Biden will start doing the ole "mentally incompetent" routine more, which will probably lead to the 25th amendment.
OK. There is not an infinite supply of swamp rats.
Wanna bet?
Sure. I can use the extra cash.
So you believe there is an infinite supply of swamp rats?
Show me proof there isnt. You made the claim.
There is nothing infinite in this temporal reality. If there were, the entire universe would be filled with it and then there still wouldn't be enough room to fit them all.
Just a simple physics problem.
Because of this! https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/trump-ode-to-the-corporation
Can a sitting President be arrested by officials from another country if they have warrants for their arrest?
Under diplomatic immunity rules, probably not.
Yea, it would be nice but the US Corporation dissolved at midnight stuff is a bridge too far for me.
You cant indict a sitting Prez unless its treason, I believe. Correct me if Im wrong.
FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING!
https://dod.defense.gov/Portals/1/Documents/law_war_manual15.pdf 11
Remember what Trump said last week?
If he is the President of a foreign corp (USA Inc) that interfered with the elections, then you can initiate hostilities.
Impeachment is when you want to remove someone from office, without killing them. As many have discovered since our founding, it is so toothless and so political that it serves but one purpose: to humiliate a president.
You can still kill traitors, no matter how fancy their crown is. Once you commit treason, you are no longer protected by any of the laws of our country, but are treated as an enemy combatant. If you do see trial, it will be as a foreign national by a military tribunal.
King Charles thought he was immune from prosecution and execution because he was king. He was wrong.
Remember, at this level of the "game", it's not about laws. It's about justice and what is morally acceptable to a people. The only real rules when you start killing people for treason is when do you stop killing them and how do you prevent it from devolving into outright gang war. The "game" after all is how do you run a state without people killing YOU.
But theoretically, Biden himself didn't commit treason, right? His allies that put him there did.
It would have been the DNC, the DS, whatever. Can't Biden just.... "act dumb" and avoid it? (even dumber I mean)
DC’s defunct?
Good synopsis
And even if it's like that, we wouldn't really know until it has happened, so.