I'm requesting advice from the old-timers regarding topics on this board NOT promoted/mentioned by Q. I apologize for the long post but I think this is important for those who are in my same predicament regarding Q-research vs conspiracy theories that harm our noble goals.
I retired from a 60 hr/wk job at the beginning of 2020. COVID hit w/in a couple of weeks and I was pissed that a lot of my plans were ruined. I had a feeling COVID was a hoax so I started researching COVID specifically since I had a lot of free time. I heard mention of "Q" a couple of times in 2019 but had no idea what "Q" was. Fast forward to 2020 and I start running across videos on YouTube that mention Q. Ahhh..OK. I branched into watching a lot of those as well. I ended up getting red-pilled too quickly but after a few weeks I started thinking...some of these people in the videos are full of shit.
I shut off YouTube, quit going to all the kook sites, grabbed a notebook, and started reading all the Q-drops from #1-present day while researching the drops specifically and taking notes. Then it all clicked. I soon confirmed to myself that many of the people making those videos never read a damn thing Q said or grossly misinterpreted/embellished things. I could see the big picture overall. I did not need or care so much about proofs, dates, etc. If anything, the Q-drops presented themselves to me as one bad-ass study guide about why things are the way they are. Cool.
I could not use social media for the past twenty years. I was a cop and my former Sheriff had a team of snitches that would actually search out employees' Facebooks and social media and then discipline them for "inappropriate comments" or even "liking" someone else's comment that they deemed "inappropriate". (Remember that old Planet of the Apes meme that looked like Valerie Jarrett? My buddy ended up on the local news and was suspended for several months for clicking "like" on that meme b/c they said it was "racist".) I can't keep my mouth shut so I never participated in any forum or social media until very recently. I am thankful I stayed away from social media for most of my life b/c I soon realized how retarded and gullible many people can be. Especially the group-thinkers. I would seriously be dooming right now otherwise.
B/c I researched the Q-drops independently, my brain was not corrupted by everyone's "hopium", "doom", and other dumb shit. B/c of this, I have no doubt the Biden Admin will be short for this earth. I don't care about the timeline, Q pointed me in the right direction, I researched, I know Q will sometimes purposely give misinfo, and I feel Trump/Q made the right moves that will eventually make everything right. No problem there. I got the 40,000 foot view and I have felt I was months ahead of any news outlet to the point I cringed when they finally reported on something that many of us had known forever. (And I have only been researching Q for about a year now.) Yall get the point.
Here's my problem. I need some advice from the old-timers that have been around from the beginning or earlier:
B/c I looked at Q primarily through my own research and never actively participated in forums, chans, kun, etc., I was surprised to see a lot of people on this board talking about the same fantastical things that Q never ever mentions, or if Q mentions it at all, it is rather vague. Here are a few examples:
NESARA/GESARA: This crowd always goes on about the utopia to come. I have never seen Q mention it once. Q mentioned the gold standard coming back. Q hints at making the banking system less centralized and more fair. I never saw a single drop mention NES/GES. All those NES/GES sites either try to sell you gold & silver and/or have a New Age theme to them. My observations/pattern recognition. Am I missing something obvious?
The latest one I have seen popping back up with a vengeance around here is the CORPORATION OF THE UNITED STATES crowd. Almost 5,000 drops and I never heard Q mention this one time. Q mentions the Vatican / City of London / DC. Sure. But not "ADMIRALITY LAW" and "CONSTITUTION OF EIGHTEEN-SEVENTYwhatever". I ran across it a few times early on while researching other stuff. What I noticed is 5 different people/articles/vids will give you ten different explanations. I see Q constantly posting about restoring the Constitution but never about this stuff. These sites usually don't have the New Age themes as much but they still try to sell you some precious metals. Am I missing something obvious?
I have seen a lot of people claiming to be "Q-supporters/podcasters" talking about miracle medicinal cure-alls and regeneration machines. (When Trump gets back in we will have no more cancer on earth.) When the f*ck did Q mention this? Did I miss something? Q hinted that RBG might have been kept alive longer by medicines not available to the public. Q even mentioned (I believe) the possibility of eventually seeing alternative advanced forms of energy. Q even vaguely hinted at extra-terrestrial life but only because of the vastness of the universe. Nothing specific. However, I see a bunch of people falling for the Robert David Steele types. I like to keep an eye on some of these guys and I'll force myself to watch some of their videos. Amongst a lot of other BS, Steele once claimed that we are sending kids to Mars on a "twenty year ride" to work as off-planet slaves. Really? Come on. Don't even get me started on all those YouTubers/podcasters (including Steele) that constantly have inside info and "un-named sources". That shit pisses me off and I see people fall for it left and right. My friend sent me a Simon Parks vid recently and I instantly sent him back the "alien mother" vid with the reply: "Really. You believe this guy?"
For you long-time researchers (Q-researchers), am I way off here or are some people just gullible and/or filled on too much "hopium"? On one hand I feel my personal research benefited by not engaging much in forums/chans/social media. It certainly helped me not to fall into the "doomer crowd". I quickly realized that if lot of those "doomers" read even a fraction of Q's posts, they would be feeling pretty good right now. On the other hand, did I do myself a disservice by going out of my way to avoid the opinions of others?
Disclaimer In no way am I attacking this forum. There are a lot of really bright folks on here. It just seems that for every nugget of gold, I end up running across 10 pounds of sh*t. :) I'm all in on the plan. I just think it would help if more people actually read it.
Thoughts?
The thing with that situation is that it was set up in a way that is very convoluted and very hard to nail down exactly what was done to The United States sovereignty. Wrapped in legal babble and constantly moving and trading owners.. US got "sold down the river" basically and it would take a business genius to figure it out and break US free. I have faith that President Trump IS THAT GENIUS. Listen to his last speech to us, lots of tidbits about returning America to to the people. He has also has hinted at fixing this over and over long before he even became President. I enjoy watching older videos of him talking about what he would / could do if he or other great people were in charge. I can have hope right?
That's why you have to try and track down ALL the info you can about the 1871 Act, as well as research and analyse what happened in the decades after.
I don't claim to know anything, but form my view, a return to pre-1871 Constitution is coming. Whether it's already happened or not, I don't know.
The shitty part is that you have to take a highly nuanced approach and look at it thru a Game of Thrones type lens. And that style allows for the claim that it's all just a "theory." Which, I think in this case, is the wrong way to look at it.
Nothing magical happened in 1871. DC was incorporated. That’s it.
Bingo! DC IS incorporated. Now go read the the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1801.
DC was originally Washington City created in July 1790. It was created as a federal DISTRICT, part of the US but run by the Federal Government with land donated by Maryland and Virginia but controlled by the Federal Government. Think of it like any Federal Land existing in a state today - it is OWNED by the state but is run and managed by the Federal Government.
In 1801 under the previous mentioned Organic Act it was changed to be an independent federal city under the purview of the Federal Government.
[As an aside: the Organic Act of 1801 was established to set the ground for ushering in a second attempt at a private central bank which was prefaced by the war of 1812 to put the US in a financial bind and thus establish the second central bank, which Andrew Jackson would become famous for destroying the "den of vipers and thieves"]
In 1871 it was incorporated as part of the Banking Act (meant to enslave the US to debt) they created a Constitution under the guise of the city constitution, which under the 1801 Act become the federal seat of power. That Constitution they created happens to be the Constitution we use today because they enjoined it to the Federal seat of Power and thus the entire US.
[This was now the THIRD attempt to lay the groundwork for a private central bank, known as the Federal Reserve. The bankers didn't rush it as fast as they did the second central bank and, at least, took 30 years this time before enslaving us with the Federal Reserve and the IRS]
Anyone here who says otherwise has not done their homework on this and does not know what they are speaking about. I happened to have done a research paper on this in college and spent a good four months buried in research on this (in libraries since there was no internet then).
The USA is, in fact, a corporation captured under the Incorporation of the city of DC which over-rode the existing Constitution for the States because DC was previously set up to be the seat of Federal Power. This was all done through very subtle sleight-of-hand
I read that act of 1871, none of that is involved, it is just about reorganizing the DC government. Read the law, it's publicly available. They talk about paying back people who loaned them money, that's it.
Something about V.K. Durham ??♂️
Yes I believe that most other countries have also done the same. Order out of chaos. Except the chaos was created so that the banks could step in at the right time to be the saviors to restore order.
My country (Germany) was also sold out. People were talking since earlier than 2010 about the BRD GmbH (German Corporation). I was perplexed when I heard the same thing about the USA a few days ago. I don't think the whole corporation thing is on point. What definitively can be stated is that countrys gave up their sovereignty by entering a centralized banking system. For Normies that is not easy to comprehend because they don't understand the absolutely insane power of gold backed currency.
and their avenues of control like world bank, imf, vatican bank
which might explain why the central bankers "own" the world. Now they are trying to meld it all together into one world gov.
Only a few countries in the world don't have a rothschild controlled central bank.
as an aside, this is the best scenario. I think the fed is the root of all these endless wars and mortgaging of our futures/lives
I found this info back in 2012 regarding the Original USA vs the US Corporation...
http://www.usavsus.info/
"there were no kids pulled from underground"
Q never said there were, but it is also untrue to say that you KNOW there have been no kids pulled from underground. Because...you don't actually know that. It's your opinion.
Of everything I have read, it is the notion of these children being abducted, abandoned, mistreated, raped and murdered that I find most concerning. It’s hard to discern truth from lies, but it does seem possible that there is evidence of what is described as a snuff film with Hillary and Huma on Weiner’s laptop. Weiner’s laptop with images that may be one of Obama’s daughters? The child falling out of Buckingham Palace with people on the street reacting. Could it be pieced together bits of film or some sort of sick LARP? Sure. The one thing I’ve learned is that I doubt everything now, except my faith and my gut. The photos of children tied up, the USB port with pages of children’s names? If fake, may whoever did that burn in hell, because I am sure there are parents trying desperately to scroll through and see if their child’s name is on that list. And let us not forget the what I can only describe as “satanic” imagery in Beyoncé shows, J Lo shows, Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. The imagery matches photos sprawled all over the net. Are you telling me the images of the children with black eyes are fake? God that would be great. But then I look at Lady Gaga’s album covers with black eyes and dripping blood and I want to puke. Last, as a Roman Catholic, the pagan idols in the Vatican were disturbing enough. Then the golden winged Moluch?? Really?? He’s not my pope (lower case “p,” he doesn’t deserve anything else). Haven’t you ever wondered, “How had the Catholic Church gotten away with all of this for so long?” So if anyone can add truth to this discussion please do. Last, I was on a call with someone who I mentioned the DUMBs to and they gasped. Why? Because every time they drive through a mountain tunnel near one in PA on their way to the Pocanos, they said they get a very disquieting feeling, live malevolence. This is not someone who is out for drama. Sorry for the long post, but it’s the info about the kids that bothers me the most.
The human trafficking thing is LEGIT as it gets. Every year we have mandatory in-service training for our peace officer’s license and most years centered around narcotics and gangs and stuff. All of a sudden, about 8 years or so ago, there was a heavy focus on human trafficking. At first, we were like, “What the hell is this crap?” Over time, we realized how big it was.
I recall a long time ago....I had to look this guy's name up. Phil Schneider. Spoke about the US being riddled with underground tunnels. Now he had spoken about a LOT of things over the years, but it might have been that this was a dangerous subject because he didn't last long after he began speaking about them. Found him - here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slgb5U-OqFM
I do recall seeing a video of some National Guards taking an oath that sounded pre-1871, not sure if that has any relevance, but it is something that could back up certain ideas if true.
That would be the easiest way to tear down the corrupt system...repealing everything would take generations.
I agree. I just happened to approach Q from a solo/clinical standpoint. Q basically pointed me in the right direction.
I forgot about the DUMBs and JFK jr ROFLMAO. I would have stuck that in the OP as well. I am sure DUMBs exist by definition, but we are certainly not transporting kids en masse through hundreds of miles of tunnels into sex slavery. (Human trafficking is often done in plain site.) I always found that those types of conspiracies gave us the biggest black eyes.
It's outrageous how much traction this theory is getting without significant push back. It literally came out of nowhere. It's now every second post and being discussed as gospel by all the major vloggers and podcasters acroos the Q community.
I found research on the us as a corporation from Jordan Maxwell long before the Q people started talking about it.
But imagine for a second it were true. True that Trump found a way to "save the world" Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
lol you are an actual retard if you think trump, who can't even manage to follow a written speech, can't speak in public without praising himself and stroking his ego is out to "save the world" dude he barely even tried to help the hurricane victims from Puerto Rico which share our american blood lol. You all are corrupt assholes and dont really care about anyone else you just want to feel important or helpful when in reality you are terrorists that are bringing the downfall of our democracy and doubting everything good about our country. Focus on the shitty parts like billionaires running our elections with money via Citizens United. Look into REAL problems and not fake pedophile rings in the government and small pizza businesses you lunatics
I bet you watch the news and read newspapers
So you didn’t see who was fired for “hiding” the hurricane disaster aid in PR? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/puerto-rico-residents-outraged-after-discovering-warehouse-full-unused-aid-n1118501
u/omgtrumpwon and u/deapstayterebel, I’m glad you spend so much time here reading all these comments. :) Can’t wait to set my calendar for 6 months and find out you got red pilled. See ya then!
It did not come out of nowhere. Look into Fritz Springmeier. Predates Q by decades.
Its a “contagion” much like the bizarre expectation that Biden et al would be whisked away, arrested on television instead of inaugurated. People have been conditioned by Hollywood more than they realize.
The crushing disappointment, doom, and supporters peeling away is a self-generated collapse based on almost singular focus and “predictions” that Q never made. You have to wonder if these are intentionally injected to destroy us.
We’re facing an unfathomable future so people are grasping at straws. Trump stepping away pulled the rudder off the ship. We are rather adrift and vulnerable.
Too much investment in this US Corp theory instead of the brazen election fraud and a very very dangerous MSM-Big Tech empire.
Agree. Power/money/corruption/influence. It’s that simple.
+, ++, +++ We all looked into these guys and look what we learned. See above.
I just see so many people that keep looking for the mystery boogeymen from ancient times that control the world with their puppet strings. The reality is that it is just a bunch of corrupt turds.
I get tired of this being stickied. I'm like show me some proof. Got crickets.