Progressiveness is the spawn of satan. People who follow that ideology are capable of justifying anything.
If you can twist your morality to justify aborting babies, you can eventually twist your morality into justifying molesting kids and exterminating political enemies.
As someone who now understands the issue against abortion in a way i never could before, I have to say, in defense of those who do support it, that I had never encountered a proper conversation or perspective on why it is wrong - instead I grew up washed in awareness of the difficulties and suffering people can face when having unwanted children and I just wanted to try and help with that. The person that really solidified it for me was actually Louis CK, where he explained that one side genuinely sees it as, if you need an abortion, you better get one - the way you would take better take a dump if you need one - and the other sees it as literally killing babies. The more I thought about it, the more I realised that I saw it as actually killing babies, but no-one in my life has ever had that conversation with me, even now, and I don't think I'm alone...
I agree about progressiveness by the way. I think deep down it is driven by the passion of resentment and dissatisfaction and is of the devil. But there are many honestly good people caught up in it, and its really important to realise that they are being completely cut off from one whole side of the conversation - it is not that they have heard the case against progressivism and rejected it, they have been fooled into thinking they've heard the case against it when in fact they've been given a carefully constructed weak presentation of it.
The problem is their justification for it stems from "it's just a clump of cells".
Very early on, of course that's true -- and we as a society haven't agreed exactly when an unborn baby is considered as having a soul, which complicates things on a certain level too.
The best middle ground is up to first heartbeat, but you have people on both sides ready to loudly yell that that isn't far enough their way so conversation doesn't go anywhere and meaningful change isn't made.
And I guess that's part of the problem. The uniparty deep state has pitted us so thoroughly against each other that it has to be one way or the other way, and only my way is the right way. We don't get true non-partisan or bipartisanship anymore. We don't genuinely work together because we hate each other's values.
We can't even come together under love of country anymore.
It's actually really upsetting if you get deep into it.
The only points of reference I can think of is how Islam and Judaism approach abortion and the issue of human soul. Very generally both agree to 40 days from conception, although some Islamic views permit it up until 120 days.
Progressiveness is the spawn of satan. People who follow that ideology are capable of justifying anything.
If you can twist your morality to justify aborting babies, you can eventually twist your morality into justifying molesting kids and exterminating political enemies.
As someone who now understands the issue against abortion in a way i never could before, I have to say, in defense of those who do support it, that I had never encountered a proper conversation or perspective on why it is wrong - instead I grew up washed in awareness of the difficulties and suffering people can face when having unwanted children and I just wanted to try and help with that. The person that really solidified it for me was actually Louis CK, where he explained that one side genuinely sees it as, if you need an abortion, you better get one - the way you would take better take a dump if you need one - and the other sees it as literally killing babies. The more I thought about it, the more I realised that I saw it as actually killing babies, but no-one in my life has ever had that conversation with me, even now, and I don't think I'm alone...
I agree about progressiveness by the way. I think deep down it is driven by the passion of resentment and dissatisfaction and is of the devil. But there are many honestly good people caught up in it, and its really important to realise that they are being completely cut off from one whole side of the conversation - it is not that they have heard the case against progressivism and rejected it, they have been fooled into thinking they've heard the case against it when in fact they've been given a carefully constructed weak presentation of it.
The problem is their justification for it stems from "it's just a clump of cells".
Very early on, of course that's true -- and we as a society haven't agreed exactly when an unborn baby is considered as having a soul, which complicates things on a certain level too.
The best middle ground is up to first heartbeat, but you have people on both sides ready to loudly yell that that isn't far enough their way so conversation doesn't go anywhere and meaningful change isn't made.
And I guess that's part of the problem. The uniparty deep state has pitted us so thoroughly against each other that it has to be one way or the other way, and only my way is the right way. We don't get true non-partisan or bipartisanship anymore. We don't genuinely work together because we hate each other's values.
We can't even come together under love of country anymore.
It's actually really upsetting if you get deep into it.
The only points of reference I can think of is how Islam and Judaism approach abortion and the issue of human soul. Very generally both agree to 40 days from conception, although some Islamic views permit it up until 120 days.