I worry about them if this all comes to fruition. My Mother is a staunch Catholic and fully, completely convinced Trump is a sarcastic idiot. Typical Orange man bad Joe Biden and Democrats good, all things Republican evil. At this point I don't even see two parties, just people who may be good or bad. Consumed with hate by the MSM for anything not left, Democrat etc..
My Father is almost exactly the same way but doesn't proselytize like my Mother does with just about anyone she comes into contact with until one has to just leave. Extolling the virtues of the Catholic faith and the good the Democrats do for the downtrodden. He does a lot of sarcastic laughing when you try to talk facts or even common sense at this point. The media brainwashing is totally complete with him too.
They call me gullible when I try to get through to them even with the most factual mild truths about government. My Father starts with that sarcastic laughter and asks “where did you hear something so ridiculous, probably Fox News or that idiot drug addict Rush Limbaugh” I say these are facts you can find anywhere on the internet, then it’s… “OMG how can you be so stupid to believe anything you read on the internet” while I have to suffer with MSNBC and Racheal Maddow on the TV with them when I visit. They are EVERYTHING left, climate change, Father has a Prius because the media told him to buy climate friendly car, then of course Trump people are racist terrorists while I’m sitting there and they know I’m conservative and voted for Trump.
Imagine having everything they have believed in come crashing down to point I’m worried they may become suicidal. Even at this early stage I’m wondering if they’re seeing things that don’t make sense and of course EVERYTHING I’m sure it’s because, Orange Man bad. Or maybe just confusion in general, I don’t know. I wonder sometimes how many families with lost people in them that will be so devastated with shame and sadness they won’t know how to cope with everything they believed in being a total lie. I’m running out of angles and time with my Parents, I’m having a bit of feeling stupid with some of things that I myself have learned about history in these few months I have been here. Still, I’m thankful for this place for somewhere to go and read similar stories. In the end that’s what this is all about, being prepared and strong to help those that will have a difficult time ahead and having a whole bunch of answers and compassion. When they say Liberalism is a mental illness, I think that couldn’t be truer, all their lives they’ve been taught that they are the bearers of truth. Everyone that doesn’t think the way they do needs their expert opinion of how to take care of those lost souls that vote right. At that point their mental state IS disordered. It is truly mind control.
My parents suffer from the same disease, and it is a disease. The cure will be a cold turkey from the programing to the truth. Not all will be able to handle it. Remind you of a movie line?? It should, why do you think that line is so famous? I've been telling my parents lightly for years that history is not what we have been told and when they do have questions I will be here to try to answer them. They have not asked the right questions yet, but I have a funny feeling they might start, soon. Truth cannot be told, it can only be learned.
I highly suggest Boundaries, by Henry cloud and Townsend. It is a book about when and how to say no to take charge of your life, in the most loving way to yourself and to others. It has helped me and my life is now full of joy. Not all interactions are easy, I still struggle, especially in person. At least you are humble enough to consider yourself a work in progress. May your efforts to connect with respect be blessed!
The Drs have a blog also with a post that came out the day I needed it. Maybe this will help you too. https://www.boundariesbooks.com/blogs/boundaries-blog/how-to-test-the-quality-of-any-relationship
In the Podesta emails, they said they (the Democrats) were targeting Catholics.
I assume it's due to their dogmatic tendencies.
I can tell you one thing, the Catholics from Eastern European families have not backed down. They've seen communism already, and pass this knowledge down to their kids. The 3rd generation seems to be questionable.
Don't be so hard on yourself. It will be tough for them, but seeing it themselves is the only way. Think about how you feel when someone lies and steals from you...that will be most lefties reaction...I think.
If it ever comes up, try gently red pilling them on the Catholic Church.
Not the child abuse stuff...not yet.
The church started after seeing enormous grassroots support for Christ. So it is my opinion that they decided to make the path to Christ as difficult as possible.
Layers of hierarchy.
We'll talk to God on your behalf.
You must confess your sins. (I think that's a way to get blackmail material on the unsuspecting.)
I think they have always worked for satan, trying to trap good people, saintly people, and prevent them from ascending to God.
They don't save souls. They steal them. And attempt to enslave them.
HOWEVER...
I've been inspired by some of the beauty that has arisen from the Church.
And many people have escaped the traps set for them and become enlightened in spite of it. Saint Teresa of Avila, for example. I love her.
What we need is something like the Church...but without satan.
But this current church needs to fall.
They are so obvious about being of the devil -- Audience Hall is a snake and the pope stands between its fangs. The windows are snake eyes.
Pure evil.
If your parents are hard nosed Catholics, use abortion information to make their eyes open a sliver. Catholics do NOT believe in abortion. I would suggest going over (without saying who is a Dem or Rep) stances on abortion. Remind them how the Catholic Church says it is a mortal sin, etc, and once they are all in, let them know the facts about the Dems' stance, and then, the Reps' stance. I am a Catholic and understand your situation. ((Big hugs)) Perhaps having them pray with you for everyone, not just one leader or another, but for world peace, evil brought to justice, etc. Good luck to you.
I second Monster2's response.
You cannot be a staunch Catholic AND support Biden/Harris ticket based on pro-life alone.
Biden is NOT Catholic.
Sounds an awful lot like my Grandparents. Catholic, though no Prius. They are pro-life, at least were, I’ve been too scared to ask recently. I remember when I was a teenager there was a new Planned Parenthood being built and he encouraged me to go picket in front of it. Every year I think the Dems have gone so far left that they will finally wake up but I’m still waiting. My Grandfather has gotten really angry and bitter and I blame it entirely on MSNBC and CNN. They rarely even go to church anymore and it seems as though he’s lost all of his faith. They have sucked it right out of him. It’s very worrisome thinking about them learning the real truth about everything.
I feel your pain and can only say we just have to keep praying for them! ?
You’re lucky they are pro life at least. Prayers for a full awakening
Here’s the link for Father Altman...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3-7eoTN2vNM
There’s no one formula we can apply to every friend or family member to wake them from this alternate reality and some will choose to reject reality no matter how clear it’s made for them. They’re adults who are responsible for their choices and you can try to help them, but the path of their lives is their own choosing. I don’t know how your mother would take to this, but you may want to show her the YouTube of Father James Altman “You cannot be Catholic and a Democrat. Period.”
You’re only human and can do only so much, but just make them understand that, regardless of political beliefs, you love them and care about them and will be there to talk and listen to them should they ever need to understand your perspective. That way, as the foundation of their belief system begins to crumble and things start to feel unreal to them, they’ll likely be more open to listening to and learning from you. Keep your arms and heart open for your loved ones. Let them come to you when they’re ready.
If things go as I suspect they will, I also have a feeling that the blessed people in charge of this effort for Good to prevail over evil will be doing a lot to break the bonds that your parents and millions of others have with those they’ve been trusting in the media and government.
Finally, if you’re lucky enough to know God, pray to Him for guidance and peace and strength. Pick up a bible and read some of it - it’s a source of strength, comfort and understanding (among many other things).
Ask them how they can claim to be Catholic and be a Democrat which is the party of slavery ,jim Crowe , kkk, plantation politics , ABORTION AND GAY MARRIAGE. Being also raised in a catholic household and they're all dim wit dems I know your pain. Except I wouldn't ket any ofbthembforget those gems that is the foundation of the demoncraps. We were abandoned caregiving mom because my mom changed to Republican to vote for Trump . My son joined me in being a Republican. And of course we voted Trump. I dont back down from them at all. I always tell my near do well masters degree proud sister..you are literally spitting in Jesus face by being a dem. You literally can not be both without making yourself a cartoon of a human being. Next time they give you crsp about internet and thinking..remind them home they need to be told what to think by complete strangers. And that just makes them mental midgets. Personally, I would straight up tell them have a nice life. Dint contact me until you grow up get some morals and think about what Jesus would think if them being a part if aborting innocent children Be tough on them You're an adult. It's about time they treat you like one and stop disrespecting you by their ignorant comments. Just because you love someone or are related to someone doesnt mean they are good to have in your life. God bless hun. Hang in there
They do nothing that doesnt benefit them Same could be said for people who hate in Catholics. Yet rather than look at the good people of her and the good they do which is much...people look to the cancer infiltrated and condemn all .
I’m not going through this, but I have thought about it a lot, because of people I know, and I wonder how these people will fare. I pray for our people and our country. It will be so hard on so many. Sending positive healing energy and prayers out into the universe ??♥️??♥️??
My Mom says Trump is a spoiled Brat. As she sits in a nursing home (part of that time alone in her room) where we haven’t been able to visit for over a year. My Dad believes us but he just keeps saying he can’t believe this is his country. He still lives alone at 84 and says he struggles to sleep when he thinks of it. I never spoke a word about politics wise until after the election. It’s hard but frankly I had to start dropping the truth into small conversations. My parents are tough but I know it will be hard on them. I just pray America doesn’t get too bad during the tough times yet to come.
Mine too. They would LOVE your parents. Mine are completely deranged, and not in that good way I usually mean.
I've given up. I don't visit any longer. Tired of being ridiculed.
I’d be more concerned they run out to get the vaccine, that stuffs crazy deadly, but I feel ya. We just went through this with the mother in law. I’m praying reality harshly wakes her, but not so harshly she breaks. She is way too stubborn and brainwashed to listen to us. Only painful truths can work. Good luck.
You are an adult. They raised you to be an adult didn't they? Tell them it is beyond time to stop telling you what to think.
Tell them they are exhibiting the sin of PRIDE, thinking that their opinions are superior to yours and that they are therefore superior to you, and presuming they have the right to lecture you.
It is amazing to me how many older ppl, women in particular, are so BOSSY and snarky these days! Where is humility? Where is common decency anymore??