“For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is life not more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the sky, that they do not sow, nor reap, nor gather crops into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more important than they? And which of you by worrying can add a single day to his life’s span? And why are you worried about clothing? Notice how the lilies of the field grow; they do not labor nor do they spin thread for cloth, yet I say to you that not even Solomon in all his glory clothed himself like one of these. But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you? You of little faith! Do not worry then, saying, ‘What are we to eat?’ or ‘What are we to drink?’ or ‘What are we to wear for clothing?’ For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be provided to you. “So do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Matthew 6:25-34 NASB2020
First there needs to be the “covenant of many” which most believe the Middle East peace. The current fake Prez will not be the one capable of this I don’t think.
This is absolutely essential. The word for "many" means more literally "multitudes" and the word for "strong covenant" requires the concept of unity: so it's the United Nations.
The fact that John the Revelator sees globalism reaching a peak where the underground economy is the only way to survive implies some tribulation, but nobody can conquer the heart that is sold to God: nobody can. So stick to the Constitution where it says Jesus is Lord (in the date-setting section), and that Constitution will be upheld in your heart under God and you will not fear canceling or unpersoning by any man. Daniel 11:36:
And the king shall do as he wills. He shall exalt himself and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak astonishing things against the God of gods. He shall prosper till the indignation is accomplished; for what is decreed shall be done.
Wouldn't the "covenant of many" and the "strong covenant" be the Covenant of Christ? Jesus, the Messiah, taught from the Temple that Daniel wrote of. Daniel received the vision after praying for his people, people that were under the Covenant of Abraham and Jacob. The transgression of their sins happened upon the Resurrection* and they are the 144,000 of the tribes of Israel who were shewn to John as being in the presence of the Father, at the beginning of Revelations.
*Or upon Christs death on the Cross, "it is finished."
The "Church" won't be here to see that my friend. Those tat are watching for His return----( Five Wise Virgins ) will be taken into the wedding feast while the other five will be left behind to become the Tribulation saints. Bring it on is all I can say! AMEN!
The idea that all of the events foretold in Revelation are still yet to pass, that this beast system will apply to every square inch of the planet, is one interpretation, and it could very well be true. However there are many, many other well cited and plausible interpretations than the one most often pushed by the "mainstream" protestant/evangelical movement. It's what many of us were raised with from birth. But why is it what we were raised with from birth? Why would the mainstream deeply corrupted church push such a narrative SO hard?
Just stop and ask yourself, does it benefit the ruling class for Christians to be taught, from the moment they're born, that they will eventually be chipped and enslaved by the government, it is inevitable, and there is absolutely nothing they can do to stop it. Just stop and think, would that not be an extremely beneficial thing for the ruling class to convince us of? Who has been steering the church for the past 100 years? Those we trust the most. I'm not making any definitive stand here but I am wary of things that seem all too convenient to the ruling class being taken for granted at blind faith.
Though the structure is global, some will escape its clutches, probably including whole nations, such as Jordan of all places. Three of the ten confederates do not remain with the structure, and reports from afar trouble it! That is why I say local success depends on you. Daniel 11:41, 44-45:
Tens of thousands shall fall, but these shall be delivered out of his hand: Edom and Moab and the main part of the Ammonites.
News from the east and the north shall alarm him, and he shall go out with great fury to destroy and devote many to destruction. And he shall pitch his palatial tents between the sea and the glorious holy mountain. Yet he shall come to his end, with none to help him.
This is called the midtribulation view, but there are several rapture views and unity is more important. For me a marker prior to the rapture is the war between Iran-Russia and Israel. If a marker passes and you see no rapture "yet", there are others who have already abandoned that goalpost and are doing the work necessary in the long haul. Daniel 7:21-22:
As I looked, this horn made war with the saints and prevailed over them, until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints possessed the kingdom.
We can all agree that the PTB are for whatever reason choosing hyperdeliberatively to walk the path John foresaw in relation to marking everyone to track all business (as well as war from Iran). So the mark is already being planned and tested just like the PATRIOT-ACT was planned.
Ever thought that maybe some writings and teachings in the Bible are reinterpreted or purposely distorted to serve the wishes of those in power, in order to remain in power? Perhaps to instill fear? Just a thought.
4 "I tell you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body, and after that have nothing more that they can do.
5 But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!
6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? And not one of them is forgotten before God.
7 Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows. - Luke 12:4-7
Im tired of these unholy ungodly people getting over on us. I do not believe Biden won the Presidency. I do believe he is illegitimate. I don't believe this regime has America First, they have the UN first and their own special interests.
Yes, but God does not only speak with a Trump. Be ready for any emergency broadcast. Revelation 10:3-4:
When he called out, the seven thunders sounded. And when the seven thunders had sounded, I was about to write, but I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Seal up what the seven thunders have said, and do not write it down.”
Yea anyone who claims to hear the voice of God other than reading the Bible is a false prophet. If God is speaking why are these Words not being added to the Bible
God spoke to me and said you're wrong. See how that works. Having a personal relationship with God doesnt mean people will hear Him physically speak. We get God's Word from the completed Scripture
I agree He can speak to people and it's incredibly easy to call out false prophets because anyone who claims to hear God is false. We know God doesn't need to speak to anyone because we have the complete Scripture. What more does God need to say? Also anyone who claims to have the Word would need to perform miracles because that's the proof. How else could we possibly tell which claims are real.
This is called the preterist view. The idea is that we can find everything in Revelation happening in some form during the reign of Nero or in close proximity; for instance, "Caesar Nero" is a good match to 666.
The only problem with this is if preterists insist that their clever fit of the events to past history means it can never happen again bigger and better. Dual prophecy exists. The closer the present fits the text, the more likely the text is passing on a valid and actionable pattern. (All should recognize this applies to internet texts as well.)
I recognize that (often by allegory) every verse of Revelation is held to be historically accurate, no problem. I have every verse fitting a future fulfillment starting at about chapter 4, according to hundreds of other verses John is quoting or alluding to, and that should be no problem too.
Your equation as baldly stated is a bit of a problem and lacks support from Scripture or history. It may well be the destiny of Medinat Israel to be demonized, and it is still a mixed multitude, but the resolution of all the positive and negative texts together will still be an ending you will love but that won't be for literally everyone.
I'm happy for us both to drop hints here but, to stay on the track intended for this forum, we shouldn't go far with them. Romans 11:1, 25-26:
I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin .... I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written.
Verbum sat: Ezekiel 38-39 corresponds better to Revelation 6:12-17, the sixth seal of the scroll. Still a long ways to Revelation 20.
For those who think that Caesar Nero will be personally involved, that's fine, because then we can get Enoch, Moses, David, and Elijah personally involved on our side too. :)
Actually, 1 Chronicles 1-9, the section of codes, mentions the prototypes of both Gog (a Reubenite) and Magog (a Japhethite). This gives a link to the alliance of Iran (Semitic) and Russia (Caucasian). But I should remember Titus 3:9:
Avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels.
While watching for Ezekiel 38-39, pay special attention to the upheavals of nature related to the sixth seal, the cutting of a strong covenant with many in relation to the war, the way in which the land is proposed to be cleansed of its crimes in chapter 39, the confederacies which censure the warriors but do not participate, and the prosperity of Israel that provokes the war.
Ezekial 39/39 is followed directly by a measuring and description of the Temple of Heaven.
So is Revelations 20:8-10.
Ezekial 38/39 describes the people of the unwalled villages, who are at rest, killing the enemies of God for 7 years, after he gathers them under a strong delusion.
Revelations 20:8-10 has satan gathering a multitude against the beloved city before God wipes them out.
There is nothing more delusional than the people that threaten us now. Everything is upside down in the world they inhabit. And they are most certainly at the gate.
Oh, I grant those similarities, thanks. But Ezekiel 39 doesn't say they are killing God's enemies for 7 years, it says their enemies fall in a day (verse 8), they bury them for 7 months, and they burn the weapons for 7 years. The measurements are completely different too; Ezekiel's seems to be on earth.
Are you proposing that in Revelation 20-21, somewhere among the destruction of the army, the throwing down of the devil, the throne judgment, and the new heaven and new earth, we are to shoehorn in the 7 years of burning weapons (or, as you say, killing enemies)? That seems not to fit the flow of the texts and is a weakness of the identification. Gog and Magog represent two past events (1 Chronicles), and can also represent two different future events. But it's not important.
At any rate, we now see Iran poised to attack and if/when they succeed it will be big. Many other current events fit before the biggest endgames. But, if not everything happens immediately after Iran, I wasn't the one moving goalposts.
“For this reason I say to you, do not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink; nor for your body, as to what you will put on. Is life not more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the sky, that they do not sow, nor reap, nor gather crops into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more important than they? And which of you by worrying can add a single day to his life’s span? And why are you worried about clothing? Notice how the lilies of the field grow; they do not labor nor do they spin thread for cloth, yet I say to you that not even Solomon in all his glory clothed himself like one of these. But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you? You of little faith! Do not worry then, saying, ‘What are we to eat?’ or ‘What are we to drink?’ or ‘What are we to wear for clothing?’ For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be provided to you. “So do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matthew 6:25-34 NASB2020
https://bible.com/bible/2692/mat.6.25-34.NASB2020
DOOMER with a bible
lol i feel doomy today im sorry im just trying to be realistic, ill snap out of it
With all due respect, you don't understand the meaning of the word "realistic". These feelings you have are driven by your fears not by reality
and what is reality
If you feel doomy, just shut up. Don't comment and certainly don't post. What kind of a soldier are you?
First there needs to be the “covenant of many” which most believe the Middle East peace. The current fake Prez will not be the one capable of this I don’t think.
This is absolutely essential. The word for "many" means more literally "multitudes" and the word for "strong covenant" requires the concept of unity: so it's the United Nations.
The fact that John the Revelator sees globalism reaching a peak where the underground economy is the only way to survive implies some tribulation, but nobody can conquer the heart that is sold to God: nobody can. So stick to the Constitution where it says Jesus is Lord (in the date-setting section), and that Constitution will be upheld in your heart under God and you will not fear canceling or unpersoning by any man. Daniel 11:36:
Wouldn't the "covenant of many" and the "strong covenant" be the Covenant of Christ? Jesus, the Messiah, taught from the Temple that Daniel wrote of. Daniel received the vision after praying for his people, people that were under the Covenant of Abraham and Jacob. The transgression of their sins happened upon the Resurrection* and they are the 144,000 of the tribes of Israel who were shewn to John as being in the presence of the Father, at the beginning of Revelations.
*Or upon Christs death on the Cross, "it is finished."
Globalism, like the ocean, will go all the way to its God-given limits, but no farther. Job 38:11:
The fire next time.
The mark of the beast vaccines WILL FAIL,Just you watch. Their agenda is not going to work at all and we will all resist and win,Just you watch.
The "Church" won't be here to see that my friend. Those tat are watching for His return----( Five Wise Virgins ) will be taken into the wedding feast while the other five will be left behind to become the Tribulation saints. Bring it on is all I can say! AMEN!
The idea that all of the events foretold in Revelation are still yet to pass, that this beast system will apply to every square inch of the planet, is one interpretation, and it could very well be true. However there are many, many other well cited and plausible interpretations than the one most often pushed by the "mainstream" protestant/evangelical movement. It's what many of us were raised with from birth. But why is it what we were raised with from birth? Why would the mainstream deeply corrupted church push such a narrative SO hard?
Just stop and ask yourself, does it benefit the ruling class for Christians to be taught, from the moment they're born, that they will eventually be chipped and enslaved by the government, it is inevitable, and there is absolutely nothing they can do to stop it. Just stop and think, would that not be an extremely beneficial thing for the ruling class to convince us of? Who has been steering the church for the past 100 years? Those we trust the most. I'm not making any definitive stand here but I am wary of things that seem all too convenient to the ruling class being taken for granted at blind faith.
Mark of the beast will not be introduced until 3.5 years after the trubulation begins.
Christians will be raptured 30-90 days after the mark of the beast is implemented.
Do you think America is going to be part of the NWO?
Though the structure is global, some will escape its clutches, probably including whole nations, such as Jordan of all places. Three of the ten confederates do not remain with the structure, and reports from afar trouble it! That is why I say local success depends on you. Daniel 11:41, 44-45:
Thank you
This is called the midtribulation view, but there are several rapture views and unity is more important. For me a marker prior to the rapture is the war between Iran-Russia and Israel. If a marker passes and you see no rapture "yet", there are others who have already abandoned that goalpost and are doing the work necessary in the long haul. Daniel 7:21-22:
We can all agree that the PTB are for whatever reason choosing hyperdeliberatively to walk the path John foresaw in relation to marking everyone to track all business (as well as war from Iran). So the mark is already being planned and tested just like the PATRIOT-ACT was planned.
Philippians 1:21 James 1: 2 Mathew 6: 25
These help me. Ultimately, regardless if you believe in a pre or post tribulation rapture, our job remains the same.
Ever thought that maybe some writings and teachings in the Bible are reinterpreted or purposely distorted to serve the wishes of those in power, in order to remain in power? Perhaps to instill fear? Just a thought.
https://www.livescience.com/51682-vaccines-evolve-deadlier-viruses.html
help me, im feeling very defeated today. will there be a revival before this happens? will America fall to this NWO? Will every country fall to it?
Fear not friend
You have all the unanswerable questions today, don't you?
Since any answer to your questions would be nothing more than a guess :
maybe, maybe not
maybe, maybe not
maybe, maybe not
Im tired of these unholy ungodly people getting over on us. I do not believe Biden won the Presidency. I do believe he is illegitimate. I don't believe this regime has America First, they have the UN first and their own special interests.
Okay. What does that have to do with you asking questions no one can answer? That's very disingenuous.
its how i feel its the way i see it, change my mind
lol
Whether you will see a revival or a collapse depends on you.
If the last-Trump rapture happens before the worst, great! If not, prepare all the harder for all the worse.
We all get some tribulation, John 16:33:
Bigly as in with a SHOUT.
Yes, but God does not only speak with a Trump. Be ready for any emergency broadcast. Revelation 10:3-4:
Yea anyone who claims to hear the voice of God other than reading the Bible is a false prophet. If God is speaking why are these Words not being added to the Bible
God spoke to me and said you're wrong. See how that works. Having a personal relationship with God doesnt mean people will hear Him physically speak. We get God's Word from the completed Scripture
I agree He can speak to people and it's incredibly easy to call out false prophets because anyone who claims to hear God is false. We know God doesn't need to speak to anyone because we have the complete Scripture. What more does God need to say? Also anyone who claims to have the Word would need to perform miracles because that's the proof. How else could we possibly tell which claims are real.
The sea represents the nation's as in the globalist system. They already set the precedence of economic restrictions. It may just be a matter of time.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what "watch the water" meant.
This is called the preterist view. The idea is that we can find everything in Revelation happening in some form during the reign of Nero or in close proximity; for instance, "Caesar Nero" is a good match to 666.
The only problem with this is if preterists insist that their clever fit of the events to past history means it can never happen again bigger and better. Dual prophecy exists. The closer the present fits the text, the more likely the text is passing on a valid and actionable pattern. (All should recognize this applies to internet texts as well.)
I already posted John 16:33 about fear.
I recognize that (often by allegory) every verse of Revelation is held to be historically accurate, no problem. I have every verse fitting a future fulfillment starting at about chapter 4, according to hundreds of other verses John is quoting or alluding to, and that should be no problem too.
Your equation as baldly stated is a bit of a problem and lacks support from Scripture or history. It may well be the destiny of Medinat Israel to be demonized, and it is still a mixed multitude, but the resolution of all the positive and negative texts together will still be an ending you will love but that won't be for literally everyone.
I'm happy for us both to drop hints here but, to stay on the track intended for this forum, we shouldn't go far with them. Romans 11:1, 25-26:
tell me
You couldn't work under Nero unless you had the mark.
So what do you think, I've got Him now gathering everyone up for Ezekial 38/39 and Revelation 20:8-10.
The time is at hand.
Verbum sat: Ezekiel 38-39 corresponds better to Revelation 6:12-17, the sixth seal of the scroll. Still a long ways to Revelation 20.
For those who think that Caesar Nero will be personally involved, that's fine, because then we can get Enoch, Moses, David, and Elijah personally involved on our side too. :)
Only two scriptures in the Bible that mention gog and magog. Ezekial 38/39 and Revelations 20:8-10.
Actually, 1 Chronicles 1-9, the section of codes, mentions the prototypes of both Gog (a Reubenite) and Magog (a Japhethite). This gives a link to the alliance of Iran (Semitic) and Russia (Caucasian). But I should remember Titus 3:9:
While watching for Ezekiel 38-39, pay special attention to the upheavals of nature related to the sixth seal, the cutting of a strong covenant with many in relation to the war, the way in which the land is proposed to be cleansed of its crimes in chapter 39, the confederacies which censure the warriors but do not participate, and the prosperity of Israel that provokes the war.
Ezekial 39/39 is followed directly by a measuring and description of the Temple of Heaven.
So is Revelations 20:8-10.
Ezekial 38/39 describes the people of the unwalled villages, who are at rest, killing the enemies of God for 7 years, after he gathers them under a strong delusion.
Revelations 20:8-10 has satan gathering a multitude against the beloved city before God wipes them out.
There is nothing more delusional than the people that threaten us now. Everything is upside down in the world they inhabit. And they are most certainly at the gate.
Let the GOOD times roll.
Oh, I grant those similarities, thanks. But Ezekiel 39 doesn't say they are killing God's enemies for 7 years, it says their enemies fall in a day (verse 8), they bury them for 7 months, and they burn the weapons for 7 years. The measurements are completely different too; Ezekiel's seems to be on earth.
Are you proposing that in Revelation 20-21, somewhere among the destruction of the army, the throwing down of the devil, the throne judgment, and the new heaven and new earth, we are to shoehorn in the 7 years of burning weapons (or, as you say, killing enemies)? That seems not to fit the flow of the texts and is a weakness of the identification. Gog and Magog represent two past events (1 Chronicles), and can also represent two different future events. But it's not important.
At any rate, we now see Iran poised to attack and if/when they succeed it will be big. Many other current events fit before the biggest endgames. But, if not everything happens immediately after Iran, I wasn't the one moving goalposts.
OK!
I love Trump I must not be too spiritually blind.