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– southbeatz 17 points 3 years ago +18 / -1

Around 70 million people are on some form of social security payments with many being on a fixed income. I've seen plenty of talk about the old republic being restored and Trump being the 19th president and shit about USA inc. If something that crazy happened, I wonder what would happen to social security for those 70 million Americans.

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– GoGoOptomistic 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

The monies that have been siphoned off to corrupt politicians all these years, will now fund these programs there should be more than enough to take care of our elderly, our veterans, anyone who needs it. This is where it was to be going all along! Instead it’s been going into the coffers of the corrupt politicians like Xiden all of them. If the US goes back to the gold standard yes it’s going to be a tough transition but we can do it we need to do it.

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– southbeatz 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

That could work but honestly social security should be improved. I've known some old people that didn't retire in their 60s because they wouldn't get enough retirement social security to retire comfortably with.

Some enjoy working into their 70s and 80s but most people should know that rich people age slower than poor people largely due to poor people living a more stressful life because of life's expenses.

I know some rich in the elite are the sick fucks drinking blood in attempt to stay younger but I was just saying rich people in general. I love Trump but I never liked how there are so many senior citizens running the government.

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– mengderen 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I do believe this is covered by NESARA, as the dollar amounts to seniors basically pay them back for years of work, service and being taxpayers-in older descriptions of NESARA, $5,000/month is the number to shoot for-remember that todays COLAs are weak and figured incorrectly over items the elderly do not have as concerns...

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– southbeatz 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Some people on social security get as low as $794 a month, as if that's enough for someone to live off of. To draw a better social security retirement, a person has to earn a certain amount of work credits but even then the social security retirement checks would be probably no more than $1,500.

People's best choice would be to put in 30+ years on one job and retire to get a good retirement but not everyone is perfect and works decades on one job. I never had a problem with some of my money paying for those on disability and unable to work.

Those with social security retirement paid in for it so they earned it. I think social security largely plays a role more so for those on disability that cannot work.

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– TakeItBack 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

"Senior citizens" doing anything is not the issue. WHO are the people running the government, young or old? Age usually brings or is supposed to bring wisdom. We need to protect and preserve that. Our country has been under attack since the signing of the Constitution. Recognize that. When the majority of Americans are clueless about our founding documents, our unalienable rights--all of them, not just the few enumerated in the Bill of Rights, the most important purpose of any level of government--to protect the people's rights and protect our country from invasion.......we have the shit show that we are and have been witnessing for a long time. We, the people, lost our right to constitutionally vet prospective candidates for public office; illegitimate party bosses choose those "candidates". We, the people lost OUR common law, OUR common law courts, OUR common law grand juries AND OUR right to quickly recall these serpents and/or indict them. Why do we not know this? See the 7th sentence. Free courses have been created for those who care to be the American citizens we were meant to be. There's also a comprehensive plan to take it all back. national liberty alliance dot org (remove spaces).

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– RichieAppel 2 points 3 years ago +6 / -4

Social security should be abolished. It should not be the responsibility of government to save our money.

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– southbeatz 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If you look at your paycheck or taxes filed, you'll see that people working pay in a social security tax so if it is to be up to old people to save money then the government should not get another penny of tax dollars.

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– GoGoOptomistic 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It’s on Bitchute. https://www.bitchute.com/video/KJvR3CeCKt1h/

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– nautica 7 points 3 years ago +9 / -2

No worry.

  1. We tell the elite, i.e. Rothschild, Windsors, Gates and others: you do not owe nothing and you will be unhappy. That means we seize, what they have stolen for centuries from common man.
  2. Social security will go on for a while, but not forever. Because, to give to one means to take from others, and this cannot stand, unless it is a donation.
  3. The new elite, that is the people who really have love for mankind and knowledge will teach the other people, how to rebuild familiy, small villages, and society.
  4. Given that free energy (zero point energy) will be widely available and the knowledge to live peaceful with nature and soil will make it possible, that people will be able to grow plants to feed themselves. Now in conventional agriculture to feed one man a year you need almost 2 acres of land. With Terra Preta, that is black earth, a mixture of charcoal, compost and soil, you need only a fraction of land ( i.e 270. sqf. or up to 50m2.). That means you can grow food for 40 up to 60 people on 2 acres per year.
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– rherrell 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I have a problem with #2, Social Security. I PAID into it for FIFTY YEARS, I'm not taking from others, THEY ARE because they raided the fund decades ago.

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– nautica 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Nobody will get lost, the people like you, who paid for so long, have earned what you paid for. The transition is not easy, but you might agree that the future should be different than the past?

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– PelosiHATER 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Really want to depress yourself?

  1. Get your SS record (remembering that your boss paid an equal amount for you)

2 Have a "finance" person calculate a "future value of a present sum" at a "safe" interest rate

  1. Cry when you realize how utterly criminal this program has been mismanaged.
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– Oathkeeper49 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

When social security was started, you had all those baby boomers paying into the system. For quite a while, all there was were payments going in without money coming out. The SS balance got very large. If the congress wouldn't have illegally used the SS fund as a piggy bank it, the SS program would be in good shape.

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– redtoe-skipper 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Good points.

Though I think socializing costs and privatizing profit is one of the features of the current system. This goes for Soc Sec as well, as it is the biggest ponzi scheme out there. Illegal, but still. It can be privatized and personalized, and would then be within the confines of the law.

It would indeed take a lot of unwinding.

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– southbeatz 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I've always been the type of person that likes being outdoors plus I live in south FL a few miles from the ocean so if I wanted to, I could catch plenty of fish. I'm only 42 now but if I make it to 70, 80+, I'd like to think I'd still enjoy being active. If things ever got the way you described, I doubt it would be an issue if donations from people were asked.

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– nautica 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

Keep low on fish. When I was 45, my health was bad. Everything hurted, asthma and more. Now I am 60 weight great, health great, nothing hurts. So, what did I do? I changed my diet to plant based, not more than 5% animal protein. Walks, at least 10000 steps a day. I moved to Southern Greece, we have no winter here, just a kind of cld rain season, but mostly you can just wear shorts and t-shirt. Over 320 sunny days per year, alot of Vitamin D3. Now I try to close the natural circles by composting everything that is natural and producing Terra Preta. Also starting own garden, and buying land to teach people. info@frht.ch or info@swissliberal.ch

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– AReckoningIsComing 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

sounds awful

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– southbeatz 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Here in south FL, it's pretty sunny and warm all year aside from a few chilly spells. When it comes to food though, whatever makes you feel good to eat is good. Myself I'm a big meat eater and probably always will be.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– portinan 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

You mean Social Insecurity?

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– Memeite 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

So the way we handle 'social security' now is fundamentally flawed.

The systems that were designed 50 years ago are much better I assume trump would go back to that.

The current system does not take into account individual needs, it does not look at the problem type instead pays people a below poverty line amount and expects them to figure it out.

This does not work for the mentally ill and disabled, it does not account for vets, it does not look at retirement or job loss. The needs of each of these groups is completely different and should be treated as such.

Mental asylum's are a great example and a Trump favorite, people with significant mental health issues do not need the additional stress of money management to their already difficult lives, they need a place to be looked after. Instead since some fuckwit wanted more money and power these poor people were thrown on the street to fend for themselves.

As for job losses this could be covered by income insurance which for most able bodied persons who can work this is a better solution since the support and the problem are temporary. This means that you would not have to sell your car or pull your kids out of the fancy school if something went wrong. It also would incentivize the insurance company to help find you a job.

My point is that social security as we know it is not a solution it is a curse and the changing and removal of it to something better is a good idea.

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– nautica 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

See, you are taking care, you differentiate. I guess, if we more like you, we will not have problems to find solutions.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– nautica 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Even if it takes a thousand years, we should try to give our best. We might be the first generation on this journey, and not see the end. I am proud, to be with my fellow brothers and sisters to help heal us, the animals and the earth. That does not mean believing all kind of bs. or fake experts. It means try to find the truth. As long as we are in this incarantion, we will have many errors, I think. God bless us. And I hope President Trump will soon be back for the US and the rest of the world!

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