This is a "What If" scenario intended to generate discussion and alternative analysis.
First let's go through a few established known truths:
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The apostle John wrote Revelations while exiled on Patmos
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John was a beloved apostle and was an eyewitness to the teachings and miracles of Jesus
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John was a faithful apostle and reliable
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Revelations is particularly difficult to understand given the imagery and symbolism
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Revelations basic message is that GOD is in control and his Victory is assured. All who believe and trust in Jesus Christ will be saved
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Revelations closes human history in the same way Genesis opened it--- in Paradise
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Genesis describes the introduction of evil to humans, Revelations describes the annihilation of evil for forever
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We've been taught that Revelations describes the end of humanity
So what if Revelations is describing the end of the World as we know it... Not the end of Earth literally?
What if Revelations is a message to the cabal directly... telling them how their rule ends?
What if eradicating the luciferians is literally the eradication of evil forever?
What if when Q uses the word biblical -- it's a reference to the book of Revelations and the last epic battle between Good and evil?
What if the "panic" that Q describes is literally their hysteria and panic knowing that their world is coming to an end?
Call it intuition or a gut feeling.....but my entire life I've been taught that Revelations describes an end to humanity. One week ago it occurred to me that this could be just another misunderstood concept. When I dig in and apply the Q context to Revelations......it makes sense to me that we're witnessing it happen and it's not our destruction that John described. He described THEIR destruction.
Then again... I could be wrong.
What are those churches doing or not doing in your opinion?
Churches and Christians should be about their business of The Great Commission of preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ to all nations. Is it that those churches aren’t preaching the gospel, or is it something else?
You guys are such fun! Choose the comments below that apply to you:
Revelation is multilevel and all interpretative structures have some merit but you must be able to interact with the merits of others than your own.
Preterism is somewhat valid, but you must understand what happens after that (Elijah came and is coming).
Pretribulation is somewhat valid, but you must understand what happens after that (wrath). (I teach classical posttribulation premillennialism.)
Teotwawki is somewhat valid, but you must understand what happens after that (new earth).
Postmillennialism is somewhat valid, but you must understand what happens before that (suffering, loss).
Soul-sleep is somewhat valid, but you must understand what happens after that (resurrection) and also during that (waking heart).
True, the church is to keep getting better, but, true, the world is to keep getting worse.
The seals, trumpets, and bowls represent 21 specific limited curses on the wicked, but the churches, signs, and angels represent 21 specific unlimited blessings on the righteous.
The present day is most directly applied to the section Revelation 3:14-6:11. Chapter 4 has fully happened but is partially fulfilled, chapter 5 is partially fulfilled but hasn’t fully happened.
u/colinsackorpick is accurate that Revelation majorly describes the end of the wicked, and validly applies it to the Q plan, which resembles Revelation in microcosm but is not the same endtime.
u/PowTimesTwo is accurate that Revelation majorly tests on Hebrew-Scripture knowledge, but the righteous during the seven-year covenant are our brothers and sisters in Messiah and no less. Also accurate is that massive persecution and mass religious executions are coming including before the rapture, but “beheaded” is a bad translation that undercuts one’s case; the word means just “struck down”.
u/Datasinc and u/Riddance are accurate that Revelation refers in code to the siege of Jerusalem whether or not it was written afterward, but remember the best time to exit the city was 68 (siege lifted) rather than 70, and there is also a future catching away of the righteous according to Thessalonians regardless of how we name or define it or how the wicked are “swept away”. Also accurate is that extreme dispensationalism weakens the Gospel, but Ephesians does teach there is a present dispensation (economy) and a different one to come, and there are differences of administration in the past indicated generally by Scripture.
I am interested in followups for clarification.
Not just preaching the gospel. That's only part of what we should do. We are supposed to take DOMINION over the earth.
Christians founded this nation and used to run the government. Our constitution and bill of rights were based off of principles found in the Bible.
Schools, hospitals, and collages used to be run by the church.
Abortion used to be outlawed. i.e. When was the last time your church saved a life of someone about to murder their baby at PP? We are commanded to spread the gospel and stand in the gap for the innocent and for justice.
Christians used to start projects and build things that wouldn't be realized in their lifetimes for their children and grandchildren. Legacies. But not these days. No one that believes in the rapture is thinking 100+ years into the future.
Christians have retreated to their Christian ghettos instead of building and fighting and hand their children over to the state to teach and raise and are SHOCKED when those kids leave the church. They heard the gospel so by your standards everything was done correctly right?
EVERYTHING belongs to Christ. Church, Schools, Biz, Media, Entertainment, courts, justice. If you're not out there fighting for it then you are an unfaithful servant. A son of a king that ignores his inheritance.
Not just preaching the gospel. That's only part of what we should do. We are supposed to take DOMINION over the earth.
Christians founded this nation and used to run the government. Our constitution and bill of rights were based off of principles found in the Bible.
Schools, hospitals, and collages used to be run by the church.
Abortion used to be outlawed. i.e. When was the last time your church saved a life of someone about to murder their baby at PP? We are commanded to spread the gospel and stand in the gap for the innocent and for justice.
Christians used to start projects and build things that wouldn't be realized in their lifetimes for their children and grandchildren. Legacies. But not these days. No one that believes in the rapture is thinking 100+ years into the future.
Christians have retreated to their Christian ghettos instead of building and fighting and hand their children over to the state to teach and raise and are SHOCKED when those kids leave the church. They heard the gospel so by your standards everything was done correctly right?
EVERYTHING belongs to Christ. Church, Schools, Biz, Media, Entertainment, courts, justice. If you're not out there fighting for it then you are an unfaithful servant. A son of a king that ignores his inheritance.