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Reverse the helicopter...
posted 5 years ago by russiah 5 years ago by russiah +28 / -0

If y’all think windmills are cool, think about a helicopter. How much gas is needed to spin the thing. Then you think backwards: how fast the windmill has to spin (how slow but big) to match the gas engine. mmmmmk?

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– SuckaFree 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

In other words, wind farms are a very inefficient way to generate and transfer power.

They're also inefficient when there's little to no wind, or during a snow/ice storm, ala what we're seeing this week in TX and elsewhere.

More birds die each year from wind farms than any other human technology, including land clearing.

Also, the amount of heavy metals and rare Earth minerals needed for some of these "green" technologies, coupled with the way we strip mine for those minerals and the amount of fuel it costs to produce them, PLUS the amount of petroleum products used in the construction of the windmills makes these wind farms a very, very inefficient way of power generation and transference.

OP, these windmills DO generate their power, but because of the size needed to make it slightly beneficial and just slightly more cost effective for us, i.e. tall and wide blades, tall towers, it makes the wind farm technique even more cost INeffective. The average height of these wind mills is 100 ft tall (just to capture wind moving only a few miles/hr more than ground level) some are even taller, like the ones in the mountains of Cali.

The materials needed to build and maintain them, de ice them, etc, PLUS the fuel needed to reach these remote areas ALTOGETHER makes them one of the most INEFFECTIVE ways we could generate power. The de-icing agents and amounts of grease needed to keep them running is enough for me to give it a hard pass, not to mention the impact on our predatory and migratory bird flocks.

We ALREADY HAVE the technology and know-how to create/maintain electricity in the form of ALL of Tesla's tech, PLUS the nuclear methods, AND other forms of "green" technology like wave generators and solar tech to put the wind farm out of contention as a viable electricity option.

The problem I see, and have seen for the decades since we've developed these green "solutions," is getting everyone to agree on their use. For every "pro" there is a "con." For every positive position there is a negative Nancy out there to say no.

In the case of the wind farm, the math doesn't add up. It doesn't add up for oceanic wave generators, unless it's a coastal region, too. The math sort of adds up for solar panels on each home and business to gather and store their own energy, but the aesthetic of having a roof covered in these panels or the solar farms most people don't like. Plus, it's the same minerals and petroleum based products needed to make these things that makes them an unappealing option as well.

The ONLY truly positive answer for our energy needs is Tesla tech. Getting people to agree on it, as well as stealing/taking back his data, research, and blueprints for them is nigh impossible right now with the Canal standing in our way.

File this under: NONE of this works UNTIL we end the Cabal once and for all.

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– KoalasAteMyFace 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Tesla's "free energy" tech doesn't work well when too many people connect to it, you can't keep a cohesive circuit. It also doesn't sustain high enough power to drive things like major appliances.

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– PeaceAndLovePatriot 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Youre premise is wrong.

The size/mass and slow movement is also creating MASSIVE torque.

That spins a gear box that amplifies speed and generates electricity.

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– russiah [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

But energy can’t be generated, only transferred.

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– PeaceAndLovePatriot 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

And?

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– TNBanjoMan 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

It's not 'generating' energy, it's transferring the energy from the wind into electrical energy. Not very efficiently, and not as efficiently as fossil fuels do, but that's what is happening in a wind turbine. It just transfers wind energy into electrical energy, which can be distributed and/or stored.

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– mattroomsq 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yes. This is true. When you apply electrical loads to a turbine, the load would create torque, thus, slowing down the turbine.

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– PeaceAndLovePatriot 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yes.

Newtons law.

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– russiah [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

And how many houses can a helicopter engine power? Maybe not a lot.

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– MB1776 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Free helicopter rides for commies.

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– bullseyepatriot 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

what

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– VoatAnon1984 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I third that. (FYI... it’s called Gear Reduction).

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– russiah [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

one windmill can power maybe a reduced farm household...

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– VoatAnon1984 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You could have said that. The green new deal with it’s bird killing windmills has nothing to do with “going green”. It’s a power grab. They want to introduce ton’s of irrational changes and technologies.

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– Fefifofumdrum 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Not sure what you're trying to say here....

Wind farms are inefficient compared to other sources of electrical power?

A helicopter is comparable to a wind turbine?

Clarify??

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– russiah [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

helicopter is gas>propeller; windmill is propeller>electricity. because gas engines have defined power output, say 1000 hp; then electricity has KWH. So we can compare the HP with KWH.

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– justThisGuyYouKnow 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

A typical helicopter gas turbine engine requires a few hundred kW of power to fly a helicopter.

A typical windmill generates 2500-3000 kW of power averaged over a year.

It's not about rotational speed of the blades; it is about the power.

Source: I have a PhD in Electrical Engineering

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– russiah [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

great! that means a windmill only makes about 10 full tank gas helicopter rides.

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– maga420susporter 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Well I am, which is probably not helping me understand any of this, so I won't pretend to. but to be fair, even if I wasn't ....I still wouldn't get any of this shit. from yours truly... so epicly fuckin lost.....hahahaha KEK!

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– Sugartree2 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I can’t do THC anymore. I scare the crap out of myself thinking that I open portals for evil to access. What a shame, because I’m 63 and waited 48 years for it to be legal.

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– deleted 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

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