We have a engineered virus, engineered brainwashing, in order to engineer an election. Been fighting engineered enemies for decades. Now they seem to be engineering the damn weather as well. Yeah its a fucking lot to take in guys! It's easier to lie to someone than to convince them they've been lied to. Slowly, they will come around. Drip drip.
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You can't redpill a normie because they've been taught to lie to themselves.
Completely agree. A lot of these people are also the same ones who idolize celebrities, actors, musicians, etc. These people will believe whatever they tell them to believe without questioning it themselves.
It’s hard to redpill them because we’re not only trying to convince them that they are wrong, but also everyone they idolize is wrong. It’s a tough/impossible pill for them to swallow.
However, I remain optimistic. No one can deny pedophilia and child trafficking is wrong. If that doesn’t make these people question their beliefs then they may be the percent that never wakes up.
I also believe Cuomo’s nursing home scandal is just the beginning of a much bigger “reveal”. Once it becomes undeniable that he purposely put covid patients back into nursing homes, the next question will be ”why?”. I think that is when the real fun will begin. When those questions begin to get answered I’m wondering if that is finally when the military steps in to arrest them all.
Edit (adding this): If it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was truly a ‘Plandemic’, it will be a massive redpill with bipartisan support from all citizens. Once people’s eyes have been opened to their evil and corruption, they will be much more receptive to evidence of election fraud (and the storming of the Capitol).
I'm sure you've already seen this. But in case you haven't, this is one of the best documentarys depicting exactly what is taking place right now. https://plandemicvideo.com/plandemic-part-2-indoctrination-2/
I have not seen this documentary. Thank you for sharing.
Make sure you go to that website pulldown menu and watch the first video as well. It's very powerful.
That is very interesting and it explains why we didn’t see a lot more pushback from the nursing homes about accepting covid positive patients. I’m certain there was a lot more of that going on in other countries as well. Considering how hard Italy got hit and now the major corruption scandals unfolding there it seems very likely that happened there too.
I completely agree that this was planned years in advance. The funding of the Wuhan lab, Fauci predicting Trump would face a novel virus, etc.
It turns out you don't have to be particularly smart to be an intellectual. You just have to learn how to speak the language. And it's not like learning a foreign language - it's all done in the native tongue with a few foreign words sprinkled in.
I was speaking of "intellectuals" as seen and heard in the liberal elitist groups and MSM. And of course they are going to tell anyone who follows them they are smart for doing so. So those "followers" you speak of are getting their egos stroked and the beliefs they've been taught for years reinforced. Double whammy. So in that sense you are correct, sir.
That's just a derision tactic. It doesn't work if you either ignore it or throw it back at them. What happens next is an emotional freakout and attack, at which point they've made a fool of themselves and you get to tell them that.
I think if you stand on facts, and aren't condescending about it, things will work out in the end. And if not, it wasn't going to happen anyway. I like to be able to point to things that are hard to argue - i.e. if you go to the CDC website, and look up ....
They usually won't do it, but it's another chink in their armor.
My freshman year in college, there were 2 journalism students in my dorm. Both dumber than a box of rocks. Had plenty of time to party, and still got good grades. Knowing who they are graduating from college into the MSM ranks tells you all you need to know about the MSM, and anyone who follows them without questioning everything they report. Sometimes it doesn't hurt to point that out either - which I could from personal experience. Everyone should find their own examples, and students of history can find plenty (just need to avoid revisionist history written long after the people involved or have knowledge of the events have passed away).
50 years of pop culture indoctrination that has taught people to value their time spent on hobbies, sports and entertainment and self gratification more than the greater world around them.
Oddly enough, it is the left that are ahead of conservatives in this area, they are at least focused on taking over society now, the right has much more apathy than the left right now.
I live in a deep red area, easily 80% Trump country, and I only know a handful of people who are aware of what is happening "great reset vs great awakening" wise. Most conservatives I know are only concerned about the same old shit, sportsball, facebook, prime time TV, this list goes on. Sure they don't like Biden, voted for Trump, but the majority are clueless as hell, and don't really care to know.
They need to lie to themselves. They have tied their morals and self worth to their politics. They’re caring/nice/intellectual because they’re on the left, therefore everyone the right is the opposite of those. Changing their mind would mean destroying their entire identity. Thus they’ll twist things as much as possible to avoid confronting the truth. The media knows this and works to provide them with the validation they seek.
i just got my 75 yo mother to finally admit the election was stolen and now she saying everything about biden admin seems off
Here is my opinion on the main 2 groups of normies:
Most normies have busy lives and aren't really that dialed in to politics in general. They get their information either second hand or through MSM. Most people I know don't even really watch the news or pay attention. I have to admit I used to be one of these lucky people. Ignorance truly is bliss in a way. They hear big stuff through word of mouth. This is why so many people hate Trump, but when pressed can't give you any actual reasons why. They don't know anything, they are just repeating what they have been told. These people may be a little easier to red pill because they aren't as brainwashed as Group 2, BUT they don't really care. This will be the group that don't really talk about politics or world events much. So attempts at redpilling will be hard because they'll be more likely to just change the subject.
Now we have the news-watching fully brainwashed normies. These people DO pay attention, but they are only paying attention to the MSM propaganda and brainwashing. Very difficult to deal with these people because they believe they are informed. They are the ones that will ask why YOUR sources are better than THEIR sources. Their sources are the respected ones. Yadda Yadda Yadda. They won't believe you because it's as if we are living in two different realities. Very difficult. But, this is the group that may actually debate and listen to you because they actually do care and pay attention. But it's harder because the brainwashing is SO deep.
I was always a Group 1 Normie. And sometimes I miss it. It was nice not to care. It was nice not to know about all the evil. I'm one of those annoyingly happy optimistic type people..... this kind of crap really gets to me. At the end of the day, I wouldn't change anything. But man I do envy those Group 1 Normies sometimes lol
I truly don't understand how someone could watch a "virus" shut down the entire world and not give any second thought to there being something more at play than we they are told.
Your Uncle is like the guy who leaves the church because some priest molested a kid.
Good thing the Apostles didn’t walk out on Jesus because of what Judas did.
These people have no logical thinking.
Again...like I said to another angry so called Christian who jumped to their own conclusion about what I said.
You got it all wrong. It was analogy about the reasons people leave the church...or rather the excuses they make for what they do.
“ God bless, but youre in the wrong group. We exist to support each other here not bash each others Christian faith. There enough others in the world that bash Christians, why are you behaving like them?”
Faith and love of Jesus has.nOthing to do with denominations.
Maybe you better leave the United States...you have some nasty pedophiles running the place.
Jeesh..peoples logic....sometimes it doesn't exist.
I agree with the analogy, but you should realise that the downvotes and pushback are not for any lack of logic but because saying that they lack logic is a downright insult.
All people have logic, even if flawed. Logic is the expression of the Logos, which is the Word of God that exists within each and every one of us. Sometimes that logic is distorted through false knowledge and bad lenses, or sometimes it's just different because they just have different spectacles. But everyone including u/Russian_Hacker's Uncle has the Logos and thus logic, and to deny that is to say that they don't have free-will, consciousness or any semblance of personhood. In a way, the way you refer to non-Catholics is as if they were somehow lesser and alien, even if that is not what you intended.
Before you take the twig out of another person's eye, ought you not take the log out of your own? Otherwise you will provoke the ire of other Christians, as you face here, and being a fellow Christian is not going to assuage their ire.
But that is beside the point. Let's walk back a bit. Who says that his uncle has left the Church? The Church is not the monopoly of the Roman Vatican, or of Orthodox Constantinople, or of Russian Moscow, or of the Anglican Queen, or of the Lutherans, the Protestants and the Evangelicals. We may not be together in communion now, but maybe one day we may once again reunite in a seamless whole under One Christ.
But for now, his uncle has seen something distorted in the RCC and decided that he did not have it within him to endure those distortions that befall Rome. That is understandable and not everyone can afford to do so and survive spiritually. Then he found greener pastures elsewhere in the Baptists. This is much like your other analogy: "maybe you better leave the U.S. you have some nasty pedophiles running the place." If a person cannot survive in the cities, in the blue states, in the U.S., then perhaps they really do need to live elsewhere. Perhaps that is where they will flourish. If a person cannot fight the corruption of the False Pope and the Deep Church (and yes, they currently reign in the Vatican!), perhaps they should leave that particular battlefield and instead cultivate their faith in a different more peaceful field.
Perhaps that is what God intended for them, and that is a perfectly logical decision. Sometimes you just need to decide that a different place is the place that you will flourish. But if you choose to remain in the U.S, to remain in the RCC, then do so knowing that you may be called by God and his servants in the fight to retake them both.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Many good points fren.
No, I'm responding to the correct user Ellabill, but I guess I also called on you by typing your name with "u /"
You got it all wrong. It was analogy about the reasons people leave the church.
Dont ever question my love for Jesus or what I have sacrificed, you my fren have NO idea.
Faith isn’t denomination.
My response wasn’t angry, but yours is for some reason.
I am not angry your Uncle found Jesus...I will probably meet him in heaven and we will have a talk about what you said today, I can guarantee that, because in eternity I will reach out to him.
God bless, but youre in the wrong group. We exist to support each other here not bash each others Christian faith. There enough others in the world that bash Christians, why are you behaving like them?
I didnt walk back my post at all. I stand by everything I said.
Arent there some Satanists or atheists you can hate and rebuke instead of a fellow Christian.
Nope...not walking back anything.
Blocked...you have mental problems ...rebuking a fellow Christian.
Said to the wife , The CDC have only found 126 cases of flu in the US since September. She works in healthcare and came back with, “ well that’s because people are cleaning their hands, wearing masks and isolating to protect the vulnerable.” “Mmmmm”, I said. “What do you think there’s a different reason”, “No you’re probably right” I said.
She’s still not ready.
If masks and handwashing works to stop the flu, why doesnt it stop the kung flu?
I don’t want to brag but I was washing my hands regularly before it was the thing to do.
Mention Florida
Now ask her why covid cases were so high despite all that mask wearing, hand washing, and social distanxing/isolation that served to keep the flu cases to next to norhing
Exactly. I don't know why the people who say the flu was eliminated because of all of that stuff can't reason that the CV would also have been. You can't reason with stupid, demented, or brainwashed.
Eat a giant bowl of putrifying raw chicken to break the conditioning vonderplanitz style on ripleys do you believe it or not
When the ones that can, finally do come around... do not expect them to admit that they were wrong or that you were right. people like this always act like they are the first to discover this it was crazy when you thought so but now that it is reality, they are brilliant for understanding it.
I don't care anymore. Family, "friends", colleages ... all the same. Let them take the vaccine.
It is no small feat to get a person, even for a moment and to themselves, to admit they are a fool. The delay in getting there is caused by intellectual vanity and some will only make the jump if you allow them to keep their dignity about it - this often takes form in some left field question about a topic that was considered ridiculous or reprehensible not long ago.
The hardest hurdle to overcome in my experience is reaching people who have lost the ability to spot loaded statements and worse yet, have come to accept that loaded statement as a form of truth that must be protected or considered morally unfathomable to think otherwise. It cynically exploits their better natures normally to trojan horse in a terrible thing.
Black Lives Matter is the perfect example. Stick the words I don't agree with / I don't like / I don't support in front of it and you get the idea. You might get to have a discussion about the principles of the movement and why it has been terrible so long as you survive the cavity inspection to make sure there isn't a shred of racism in you first.
Because if you introduce new contradictory information without acknowledging the person's current beliefs then their defense mechanisms kick in.
It comes down to what someone considers “Credible Sources”. The Normies listen to CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo, etc and we see that as propaganda. They cannot fathom that the experts they have put their faith in would lie to them. If they actually acknowledge that, then it exposes their own ignorance, and since they consider themselves smarter, and more sophisticated, more caring, etc., then, well...that is impossible. So that’s the loop they are in.
A couple of factors at play:
The mind recoils in the face of diabolical evil and refuses to accept it as reality.
the more a person benefits from a system the more likely they are to discount, ignore or refuse to accept the reality of the flaws to that system. Ask a homeless person what they think and then ask someone who has a house, insurance and savings what they think. The person with more to lose does feats they will lose what they have if they work against the system that gave them all the creature comforts.
Teacher union will be the last to admit the truth. And they are teaching children. Thats why i say homeschool is the way to go. Raise patriots not drones.
Lots of teachers are left behind feminists. Too old to have their own children and desperate to smell the oxytocin (and clueless that this is driving their behavior) so they change careers at midlife so they an be with our kids and teach out kids the ideals that made them such failures in life.
People NEVER make decisions logically. This has been demonstrated in experiments with MRI machines. Looking at brain imaging of a decision making process the observer was able to identify the decision BEFORE the test subject knew what they had decided.
People make decisions based on emotions and then use cognitive function to rationalize their decisions.
You want to wake up a normie, get them angry. They don’t want to acknowledge the child rape; shame them for supporting pedos.
This strategy works, before warned though it will damage your relationship with them for life. You don’t destroy someone’s world view without paying a price.
Memes are the way, Fren. Trust.
The way I see it, there are two possibilities:
Inability to exercise critical thinking: People who were taught as children to have self-confidence with no basis for that self-confidence typically lack the ability to examine and process data. They are programmed with the idea that all that matters is their feelings and there are no real facts. Ergo, when they are presented with facts that contradict their feelings, they dismiss them as irrelevant or false. Facts are what they decide they are. In other words, they are stupid.
They support what's being done. I've had this argument with both my mother and my husband, that a good number of people these days are simply evil. Their hearts and souls are tainted, they believe good is bad and bad is good. Now, both my mother and husband insist that, while this may be true, it is linked to #1--in other words, they believe that people are fooled by evil and are too stupid to understand the recognize evil when it's shoved in their faces. Either way, they support evil.
it's easy to prove that the media outlets are all full blown liars
once you prove this, it's like... if they lie about <this> who is to say they don't lie about <x,y,z>?
if you can't trust what you're being told, how do you discern truth?
in my experience, the VAST majority of unaware people will come around to this strategy. unfortunately there are some people who can't be helped... but i think it's a minority.
Mainly because most of these people have been programmed since birth just to "follow the rules" and not to question authority. This is what school is designed for: indoctrination. This is how China controls their subjects despite being an overall minority.
When you've been on a steady diet of media propaganda and brainwashing for the last 5 years it's not easy. You can show them all provable facts and they just call you crazy and go about there day wearing 2 masks and trying to find out where to get the "vaccine" so they will be immune to the china virus. Remember they think you're the crazy one not them.
A Mark Twain quote is that it's easier to fool people, than to convince them they've been fooled.
I just need hard proof of leftoids being anti-Christian and they'll start swinging differently.