WTF HAPPENED TO THE PLANE???
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I think it’s a mistake to use this detail to try to convince the ‘normies’.....or rather to waste time arguing what we are actually seeing with these images... I personally prefer to use the way the towers came down and building 7 later.....
Without explosives at critical locations the collapse we all see is impossible..... and that probability of explosives is backed up by agreed science that is very difficult to dispute scientifically.... everything else we know, like the maintenance work, the insurance, change of ownership, etc (the list goes on and on) follows from the accepting of that...
If we start from there then it’s far easier to bring in the doubters...
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There certainly is a lot of effort recently to derail this forum into wasting craptons of time discussing 20yo conspiracy theories rather than the ones going on right now.
I wouldn't shut down the line of thinking- personally know several red-pilled who dove into 9/11 on their own, brought up stuff to me that I hadn't known about, lol.
Why? Because it's been bugging them for years, but they were too programmed to feel safe bringing it up. Once their minds are free, they go back to what had REALLY almost red pilled them. For many, it was this.
Remember, part of our mission is to be here for them as all their world is torn down. Try to remember how you felt when you had that breakthrough.
I was red-pilled in 1978.
I've been waiting a loooong-ass time.
I personally think the "no plane" theory is a red herring. Something definitely hit the buildings, but the hoax is that they had set up the demolition of the building earlier, and it was all done for some specific reasons
Somewhere out there is a video of a guy interviewing people on the street. They talk about explosions and were asked if a plane ran into it or something. They answer very firmly, no planes, just explosions.
People that were there on the ground saw no planes.
Yeah, I have seen these videos. And until the second tower got hit, pretty much every one was confused. But think about it this way - unless you are on the right side of the tower and were looking up at that moment, even if there was a plane that hit into it, you would miss it.
By no means am I saying that there was definitely planes involved, and there is no doubt explosives were used, but I still havent found anything compelling.
On the other hand, I am not finding anything beyond official narrative to conclusively prove the planes. What I am looking for is some unofficial video taken from somewhere far away (like from GW bridge for instance) with a clear view of the towers showing planes hitting into it. Its quite flabbergasting that no such footages are available. I sometimes still regret leaving Manhattan the day before, even though all things considered, it was probably a blessing.
Yeah i agree, in the chaos no one knows whats going on, lots of assumptions. The rumor mill is turning hard.
All we really need to focus on is building 7. The one that just fell down all on its own.
Yeah. I think that British reporter who "leaked" its demolition on live TV (accidentally) was probably a Patriot who was trying to warn us. Regardless, his action ensured millions opened their eyes on 9/11
I am highly curious about Rudy's role in 9/11 - he was the mayor, and I am sure had a role to play in getting rid of the debris. He was also the media darling which means wittingly or unwittingly he helped the Globalist agenda.
My guess is that he unwittingly helped them, but later on realised the full extent of what was happening but being smart, he helped the white hats behind the scenes instead of blowing the whistle and committing suicide with bullet in the back of his head!
The “no plane” theory is 20 year old “well poisoning”. Back in the early days, when I was fighting these people online in 2001 this was a common tactic. I’ve been fighting ever since. I was fighting meme wars before they were memes. They used that story to make us all seem insane
If I remember correctly the FAA website showed two of the 9/11 planes as being destroyed in 9/11 and two of them remained in service after 9/11
Thanks for this response, and as expected it is being downvoted. But this is my feeling too. The amount of disinformation conspiracies that were floating around at that time, and so quickly, was quite surprising. Its a lot like Sandy Hook well-poisoning AJ did a while back. I still hold my judgement on Sandy Hook, but with 9/11 I find it almost impossible to believe that they can fake 4 plane crashes and make all the passengers keep quiet. There were some big names too iirc.
However the counter point to this is that, clearly the thing that hit Pentagon was not a plane. Seems more like a missile. And they managed to fake that plane crash, so why not the others.
Still, I am awaiting 9/11 declas more intensely than anything else because 9/11 affected our generation a lot more.
Agreed. There is one vid where a witness saw a gray and strange looking plane hit, and a suspicious chase plane much higher up most likely remote controlling the unmanned crash plane. That I would believe, as people did see some aircraft looking thing hit the towers..
Wonder where the people are then?
Was a lady on Youtube saying they were all executed and there were no planes but iIRC she had some shady/CIA type cointel connections. She claimed to have been a stewardess.
Two of the planes still remained in service according to FAA. Also one plane landed in Ohio and unloaded passengers. Planes were only half full. We’re allowed to fly after discovering they were hijacked.
Also from what I’ve read, the planes were traveling too fast at their altitude to crash and bury themselves into the towers.
You'd think a Todd Beamer or someone would have surfaced by now if it was all BS. Did they kill the passengers?
That's a serious question, since the mobile phone calls they placed were proven to have been impossible.
uh... it hit the side not facing the camera, there are plenty of other angles showing the plane go in.
Bullshit cause this is the same fucking angle but with a plane at 4:07 seconds https://youtu.be/7YLm3pkAiJQ
This is clearly a different angle
I agree that is the exact same footage (clip 8). Question is, which footage was edited? Was the plane added or removed from original?
that was my first thought
Not 100% sure, but I belive I saw this clip a few months ago, and then someone posted the same clip with a plane.
I belive all planes were cgi, since every clip came from people working in the film business, so this has been released with a cgi plane that has been digitalt removed.
I hope we get the truth one day.
Somewhere out there is a video of a guy interviewing people on the street. They talk about explosions and were asked if a plane ran into it or something. They answer very firmly, no planes, just explosions.
pretty sure i saw that too, it was about the pentagon being hit if i remember correctly
think it was this one - https://youtu.be/7BNqgNvUhRQ
I can assure you that planes hit both 1 WTC and 2 WTC. I saw both personally from my apartment in Manhattan. I cannot comment on explosives in the buildings or on the cause of the collapse of 7 WTC because I don’t know. But planes definitely hit #1 and #2.
....you obviously did not see the first plane hit the tower.
The no plane theory has a LOT of evidence behind it. Anyone interested and brave enough to think for themselves can watch "0/11- Great American psy-opera" which explicity goes through how it was done using CGI and masked layers.
The planes were going at impossible speeds for the altitude, impossible phone calls, perfectly intact passports, no black box.
No planes.
My theory was always that there were two planes used on WTC but not in PA or DC
The plane speed of wtc planes was evidence not examined at the time. You need altitude for those speeds.
I had a family member die on 93. If I had a gun to my head, my guess, based on the evidence, would be bombs at Pentagon and WTC 1,2, and 7, with 93 being blown out of the sky by the US airforce. I think one real plane had to exist to give plausible deniability to the others.
Absolutely no real evidence of a plane at pentagon except a few parts which looked like they were dropped at the scene. Perfectly circular hole, budget office had just recently been undergoing renovation and of course Rumsfeld announced 1 day before that 2 trillion could not be accounted for. Similarly no plane parts at shanksville, with a tiny crater. There are still interviews you can find where the reporters acknowledge that nothing was there.
2 more questions- How come the fire that was so hot that it weakened structural steel could not force smoke up much higher than the buildings themselves? Where are the wing tip vortices? No vortices, no planes. One does not exist without the other.
Also impossible to fly a 757 at hundreds on mph just feet off the ground to crash into the first floor LEVEL of the pentagon.
Planes didn’t hit the buildings...drones did. We had drone technology in the 1960’s fly above Mach 3. I’m sure it was a bit better 41 years after that in 2001.
We tested RC B-17s packed with bombs in WWII.
I just read about that one, that is new to me. I pilot flys in, jumps out and it is radio controlled to a target?...
I was referring to the D-21.
I THINK so but not sure. IIRC one of the Kennedy brothers was killed in development of the B-17.
I will add there is definitely 3 explosions maybe even a 4th at impact.. ??
Better question would be “What are the 4 triangle objects that enter and exit the screen at the 7 second mark?”
Doves.
If you play at 0.3 speed these birdies are very easy to spot. You can even see their wings clapping.
I have to respectfully disagree. If you look very closely at the second set of objects, they do not exit the frame to the right like the first 2. The objects turn directly away from the camera and seem to fade on screen very rapidly. I do not know what they are however, the speed at which the second set fades out makes me think that they were traveling at a very high speed.
Fake? Night time is for sleep, don't let your guard down.
Fire so hot it weakened the structural steel to the point of global failure in under 1 hour. The intense heat didn’t seem to force the smoke much height than the building tops. It was a fairly cool morning and the winds aloft were calm up to 3000ft. The heat should have forced the smoke up into the flight levels. A forest fire can push smoke so high that it creates its own weather.