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It didn't feel right to say that, to be honest. I read the Mormons were the most right wing Christian church.
Amish have us beat.
That said, we have a lot of kids and we're not exactly on high alert for pedos at every waking moment, so we attract pedos like the porchlight attracts moths.
Recently we've made BSA-style youth protection (aka, how to profile and beat pedos at their game) mandatory for anyone who might have anything to do with kids in any type of official capacity. I had to take the training each year and all I did was play the piano for the kiddos.
That's really good to know.
Yeah.
When you get called to "senior" positions in the church (IE, ward council and above) they start really drilling into your head, "There are pedophiles among us, and we really need you to help identify and drive them out."
IE, if you even SUSPECT that there is child abuse or whatnot, you are supposed to immediately contact the bishop who will get on the "red phone" and call SLC to start the process of getting the police involved.
There is a reason why the church has a HUGE archive of reported child abuse stories -- it is always on the lookout for it and when there is something actionable it will always act.
Every time anyone has reported to me online that there is child abuse in our church, I have reported what I could. Most of the time when I start drilling for any sort of details the accuser shuts up. That's because they KNOW that the church takes it very seriously. If they bring it up, there will be law enforcement action.
I feel the Trump admin made that a thing. Hope it sticks around through the next one.
Mormons aren't a Christian church. They rejected the Christian church, the Bible and its doctrines, calling it an abomination:
“Jesus said to Joseph that all the churches were wrong, and that their creeds were an abomination in his sight, that those professors were all corrupt." (First Vision)
Elder James E. Talmage observed that “when we say that the Lord is not pleased with those churches, we do not mean that he is not pleased with the members thereof. … The church as such may be wholly corrupt because of the false claims that are being made for it, and yet within that church as members there may be people who are doing their best.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1928, p. 120.)
The Lord himself declared that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is “the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased, speaking unto the church collectively and not individually.”(D&C 1:30.)
Every Christian denomination thinks they’re the right one and the others are wrong.
Forget denominationalism. Just go with the truth of the Bible.
That's what all the denominations say lol.
We did not reject the Bible, its doctrines, or Christ. We DID reject the extra-Biblical dogmas that are found throughout mainstream Christianity.
Sadly, you rejected the Church in favor of a cult founded by a polygamous pedophile and womanizer who was a satanic Freemason occultist and modeled much of his cults symbolism and rituals on Freemason occultism. Irrefutable facts right here.
That's what you've been told. It doesn't make it true.
I marvel at how many people like to tell us what we believe rather than ask us what we believe.
Yes, to this. Factual history.
Not accurate.
Historically, LDS rejected the Christian Church and the Bible in favor of their prophets.
The LDS has a different Jesus and a different way of salvation.
Mitt Romney is just something akin to a modern day Joseph Smith They are similar con men.
Which ones?
Virgin birth? Trinity? What else?
Tell you what, if you'll ask specific questions, I'll answer them all to the best of my ability. Only do this if your curiosity is genuine.
If it is, you'll find this to be a good starting point. The first 8 minutes are fluff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56eloRh500Y
Religions tend to have a "this is the one true religion" clause. I don't honestly think there is just one, though. Wouldn't be benevolent.
Jesus said, " I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father, but through me."
John 14:6
a) Their CREEDS are an abomination.
Pay attention to the words that Jesus used. He did NOT say:
He said the CREEDS are an abomination.
Tell me, which creed did Jesus embrace? If the answer is "None", then you are correct. Jesus asked us to repent and be baptized, that's it. Anyone who preaches more or less than this is teaching false doctrine.
b) "those professors were all corrupt" Find me a loud-mouthed Christian who goes around shouting what he believes to everyone he can, and I'll show you a Christian who is corrupt. This is NOT what Christ asked us to do. We are to declare repentance and baptism, that's it. We are not supposed to argue and fight over the finer points of doctrine.
c) Conveniently, you withdrew all of the scriptures that correctly teach what we actually believe about other faiths. Namely:
Concerning our church, what makes it "the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth"? Why is the Lord only pleased with us and not, say, the Catholics or the Protestants?
Several reasons:
That said, if you are dead-set on hating our church and our doctrines, more power to you. You are probably doing good works and have already accepted Christ, and increasingly likely to have the Spirit working in your life. I say God speed, whether you consider us Christian or not. I have noticed in the past 10 years that the Spirit is working miracles among pretty much every group that even remotely tries to point their way to the Savior.
Jesus, according to the felon and convicted fraud Joseph Smith, said that at the first vision, which is as credible as the Kinderhook plates, the seer stone, an Egyptian funeral papyrus and that talisman coin that Smith had in his pocket when he passed away in the jail shootout.
It wasn't just about creeds. Clearly, the LDS prophets spoke against the Christian Church and Christian doctrine.
The LDS church does not impart priesthood.
The LDS church doesn't point to Jesus, the Savior, God's only Son. It points to a man made Jesus that is conceived by Mary through a physical relationship and one that is the brother of Satan.
“Christ was begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers.” (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 547)
On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers….But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)
We needed a Savior to pay for our sins and teach us how to return to our Heavenly Father. Our Father said, “Whom shall I send?” (Abraham 3:27). Two of our brothers offered to help. Our oldest brother, Jesus Christ, who was then called Jehovah, said, “Here am I, send me” (Abraham 3:27)….Satan, who was called Lucifer, also came, saying, “Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor” (Moses 4:1).
Mormons don't have the same Jesus, nor do they have the same way of salvation.
We haven't even gotten to the LDS doctrine of becoming little gods, planet Kolob and/or populating our own planets via multiple wives yet.
Your prophets were dead set on hating the Christian Church, their doctrines and Biblical Truth.
I am an irrelevant part of that historical reality.