NO FRANCIS! THAT'S NOT HAPPENING
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Just a reminder, that Catholics were the FIRST Christians. Catholicism comes directly from St. Peter, our first pope, and Jesus' disciple. A beautiful story of redemption after his denial of Christ to his death on a cross like Christ. Catholicism is the only denomination that can claim it has direct roots to Jesus.
Catholicism comes directly from Jesus Christ, the head of the church. Peter was set as the churches steward. A big responsibility, but the didn't create the church.
Catholicism isn't a denomination. The word means universal. Fundamentally it denies that denominations can exist. God does not have multiple families.
The Roman Catholic church is evil, it has done so many bad things throughout history. Whatever it started as, clearly this monstrosity is not what was intended.
They have started countless wars. They financed the slave trade for awhile. The persecuted Jews in ways that surpass the Nazis (they used to tar and feather them and make them run naked through the streets like this in the Vatican City to celebrate holidays, for one example).They claim this weird godhood for the Pope as if he is a direct tie to God. They have this weird Priest order that doesn't allow marriage that just basically invites the pedophiles with a coverstory. They have aided and abbeted the pedophilia and obstructed justice countless times and never report it to authorities. They have had Popes who had drug fueled orgies in St Peter's Basilica
Then there's the weird worship of Mary and completely unethical praying to her and others that aren't God. Their un-invited anointing of 'saints' (so many monsters they have called 'saints').
Or we have the whole fiasco that led to the Reformation. Indulgences - the charging of money to get rid of sins. This idiotic theory of 'purgatory' that they peddled and selled indulgences to protect against. The fact that they used to, for about 1000 years, read the Bible only in Latin. A language which the congregations generally had no knowledge of whatsoever. Why? Because they wanted to control them and institute all these stupid rules that have come to define Catholicism.
The most 'real' Christians out there are Prostestants, if you are defining 'real' as in most closely following the Bible. But you don't have to belong to any sect AT ALL to be a real Christian.
Protestantism originated from a fallen away Catholic priest who had a sexual affair with a nun and they ran away together. Not exactly what I'd consider as the most "real" Christian. Catholicism was the first Christian church and was the ONLY Christian church for some time, before it began dividing because of selfish people who couldn't handle the law.
We don't worship Mary, we ask for her intercession and give her the right due as the Theotokos and Mother of God. The same for saints, we ask for their intercessions, we don't give them worship. (If I had a nickle for every time I heard this dumb argument I'd be a billionaire by now.)
It sounds like you have some serious personal beef with the Catholic Church. I'm guessing your daddy has something to do with this too? In either case stop being such an angry idiot and start repenting.
No, I have zero personal beef with the Catholic church. And to be honest, I don't really care one way or the other about them. But when someone calls them the 'true' Christian church then I get riled up. Catholics do so much extracurricular stuff that, at the very least, BORDERS on worship of people who aren't God/Christ that I cannot stand to hear this argument with giving comment on it. How are these people able to intercede in anything for you? They are not gods! You are giving them these supernatural powers that have absolutely no basis for reality in the Bible. And the damn Pope is treated like a rock star deity by Catholics. They think of him like he has a direct connection to God above all other humans. It's weird. The Catholic church cultivated this worship of themselves over centuries as a means to consolidate their power. It used to be as much of a political/financial/military machine as a religious one.
Then there's the reality that the Catholic church has done so many horrible things in the past, including misleading Christians deliberately, in fact I would say more horrible thing than all other denominations combined, that they clearly are not the best version of Christianity. And this is not to say there is ANY best version of Christianity. And I don't hold past events from 1000 years ago against the current Catholic church but the reality is that they have done a lot of evil in their past and that Christians broke away from them for very good reasons. Telling people they are basically inferior versions is totally absurd when the Catholic church was left behind for very many good reasons. And please, don't tell me about one man's adultery when Catholicism has a million historical planks in it's eye. All you need is to believe in God and that Jesus died on the cross for your sins - the rest is fluff.
Catholic Church is the true Christian Church because it was THE FIRST. No other can claim that, and to do so would be to forget history. But whatever, it's clear you really DO have a serious beef with the Catholic Church with the way you're prattling on. You're like "Oh I don't care about them" and then someone says a nice thing about it and you're like "rEEEeeEEEEEeee!" Sounds like you need an exorcism or something. I know some good priests that can help. I'll pray for your lack of understanding and hatred.
Except Peter never claimed to be pope or head of the church.
You're wrong about that. It's literally in the Bible. "Peter was one of the 12 Apostles of Jesus. Roman Catholic tradition holds that Jesus established St. Peter as the first pope (Matthew 16:18). Jesus also gave him “the keys of the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 16:19), which is why he is often depicted at the gates of heaven in art and popular culture."
Matthew 16:18 "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."
Which Church is He talking about? Not the "Christian" church, that wasn't it. It was the "Catholic" Church, which means "Universal."
This explains it further: https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/was-the-early-church-catholic-or-just-christian
The “rock” was Peter’s confession that Christ was God. The “rock” is not Peter. Jesus even uses two different words - Cephas and Petros to make the distinction. Plus, if he were head of the church, why could Paul rebuke him when Peter tried to make the gentiles come under the Jewish law?
Edit he might have used lithos, I can’t recall. Petros for Peter, lithos for the rock on which the church is built.
You are not entirely correct about that.
"Controversy has surrounded one particular text that is linked with the Aramaic nickname name כפא (Cepha), meaning "rock," that Jesus gave the man previously known as Simon.[John 1:42] The Greeks translated it as Πέτρος (Petros), a new form, appropriately masculine, of the standard feminine word πέτρα (petra), also meaning "rock;" and the Latins translated it as Petrus.[4]
While the reasons for disagreement on the nature of the primacy are complex, hinging on matters of doctrine, history and politics, the debate is often reduced to a discussion of the meaning and translation of Matthew 16:18: "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Matthew 16:18, Douay-Rheims Bible
In the Greek text, the new name given is Πέτρος (Petros), and in the second half of the same verse the word translated as "rock" is πέτρα (petra). A literal translation, in the style of the King James Version, of the words presumably used by Jesus would be "Thou art Rock, and upon this rock will I build my church".[5] To preserve a supposed pun, the Greek text chose to translate Peter's name as "Πέτρος" rather than as "Κηφᾶς" (Cephas).
One common Protestant argument historically has been that the translation from the New Testament in Hebrew into Greek is tenuous at best as there is no real evidence or indication that the New Testament (in Greek) was ever translated from Hebrew or Aramaic texts; for that argument see Aramaic primacy. According to the Protestant transliteration argument,[citation needed] in the language that Jesus spoke, the same word, כפא (cepha), was used for both Peter's name and for the rock on which Jesus said he would build his church. Since the Protestant Reformation, many non-Catholics have challenged the Catholic Church's position, questioning whether the feminine πέτρα refers to Peter, and claiming it may instead refer to either Peter's confession of faith or to Jesus himself.[6][7] "