Yeah, just saw that. Would seem to indicate they were attempting to ram it into the right bank. And all was well up until that point so the loss of power excuse I heard doesn't seem plausible.
I don't know much about these huge container ships, but can't the rudder still be operated theoretically without power if you use a large enough gear ratio? You would think it would be the sort of failsafe that you should plan to include in your design...
No... No no no. Your sense of scale is way off. There are a couple of the biggest hydraulic pumps you can imagine moving that rudder. It can be manually pumped from the engine room. Very slowly.
Edit: at a glace this looks to be a similar sized container ship:
So if it can be manually pumped in the engine room then theoretically the ship's course could have been maintained and this was either ineptitude or done purposefully.
There is no way to pump it fast enough. Did you look at the size of the rudder? There are only 20-22 crew on a ship like that. Even if there was some kind of 20 man tweak pump handle (there isn't) they still couldn't correct fast enough.
I used to drive ships like that. You're constantly making corrections of a degree or two of rudder to maintain a steady course under the most ideal circumstances. Maybe, just maybe, in wide open ocean you could get the ship to go within 20 degrees of the desired course manually pumping. I doubt anyone had ever tried. It's insane.
Thanks I had no clue it was such a monumental effort to move the rudder on such a large ship. I suppose it makes sense, even with the buoyancy you're trying to move a giant piece of metal that ranges football field length and weighs thousands of tons... The math checks out...
You're welcome. I'm loving this, the news is finally in my wheelhouse! I should do an ama thread or something...
With ships that size you have to be minutes ahead of what's happening. When things go wrong in a carasst freeway speed, you have that second of adrenaline as you see what's about to happen before it's over. On a large vessel, it's minutes of powerless sheer terror watching it unfold in slow motion, too late to change it.
Compare it to driving down the freeway in a construction zone with barriers a couple feet from either side of your car. As you're gently correcting the steering to keep yourself centered, the steering wheel locks up tight. How long until you touch a side? Probably not long. At that point even if steering comes back it's already over.
Hey, for the ever given (much like the car) it could have simply been a moment of inattention while the helmsman made a booboo. Left instead of right. You'd be amazed how often it happens. Steering hundreds of thousands of tons with precision is exhausting for the man on the wheel. And we work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for months. At least.
All that said, this still looks fishy as hell. There will be excuses aplenty, and they'll be very plausible. But c'mon man, H3RC? The timing?
I mean the shape could be completely accidental as the ship was just idling around waiting for it's turn to head through the canal. You can see all the other ships moving around in circles and shit while they wait.
It is funny as hell that it looks like a dickbutt though. Also the tugboats appearing right after it gets stuck and swarming around it trying to get it unstuck made me giggle too.
Omg now the drawing makes sense. They were saluting us fags.
Who else but a white hat makes a Hillary ship draw a giant dickbutt? They know their audience well XD
And we shall call this the "phallo-rectal salute" and it means, "spread fire, we're going in!"
Anybody notice how the ship hugs the left bank before turning right to maximize the blockage?
Yeah, just saw that. Would seem to indicate they were attempting to ram it into the right bank. And all was well up until that point so the loss of power excuse I heard doesn't seem plausible.
I don't know much about these huge container ships, but can't the rudder still be operated theoretically without power if you use a large enough gear ratio? You would think it would be the sort of failsafe that you should plan to include in your design...
No... No no no. Your sense of scale is way off. There are a couple of the biggest hydraulic pumps you can imagine moving that rudder. It can be manually pumped from the engine room. Very slowly.
Edit: at a glace this looks to be a similar sized container ship:
https://www.damenmc.com/en/projects/5x20000-teu-container-vessels-for-cosco-containers
So if it can be manually pumped in the engine room then theoretically the ship's course could have been maintained and this was either ineptitude or done purposefully.
There is no way to pump it fast enough. Did you look at the size of the rudder? There are only 20-22 crew on a ship like that. Even if there was some kind of 20 man tweak pump handle (there isn't) they still couldn't correct fast enough.
I used to drive ships like that. You're constantly making corrections of a degree or two of rudder to maintain a steady course under the most ideal circumstances. Maybe, just maybe, in wide open ocean you could get the ship to go within 20 degrees of the desired course manually pumping. I doubt anyone had ever tried. It's insane.
Thanks I had no clue it was such a monumental effort to move the rudder on such a large ship. I suppose it makes sense, even with the buoyancy you're trying to move a giant piece of metal that ranges football field length and weighs thousands of tons... The math checks out...
You're welcome. I'm loving this, the news is finally in my wheelhouse! I should do an ama thread or something...
With ships that size you have to be minutes ahead of what's happening. When things go wrong in a carasst freeway speed, you have that second of adrenaline as you see what's about to happen before it's over. On a large vessel, it's minutes of powerless sheer terror watching it unfold in slow motion, too late to change it.
Compare it to driving down the freeway in a construction zone with barriers a couple feet from either side of your car. As you're gently correcting the steering to keep yourself centered, the steering wheel locks up tight. How long until you touch a side? Probably not long. At that point even if steering comes back it's already over.
Hey, for the ever given (much like the car) it could have simply been a moment of inattention while the helmsman made a booboo. Left instead of right. You'd be amazed how often it happens. Steering hundreds of thousands of tons with precision is exhausting for the man on the wheel. And we work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for months. At least.
All that said, this still looks fishy as hell. There will be excuses aplenty, and they'll be very plausible. But c'mon man, H3RC? The timing?
Holy fucking Top KEK! Perfect!
I mean the shape could be completely accidental as the ship was just idling around waiting for it's turn to head through the canal. You can see all the other ships moving around in circles and shit while they wait.
It is funny as hell that it looks like a dickbutt though. Also the tugboats appearing right after it gets stuck and swarming around it trying to get it unstuck made me giggle too.
Constipation
We... we need a new marker for boat fagging. This is great, and I want so much more of this.
Tell me we get the Cabal assets to draw dick-butts regularly before getting caught. Can... can we do that?
HAHA!! Thank you!
Darn I can’t get it to play at all. Can you try again to send a link? Interested to hear! Thank you
MP4 won’t play on my tablet
Can we prove this was the actual track?
I almost woke up my by boy by laughing so hard....hilarious
Please repost or share a link?
the video's source is https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a3EwyV8_460svav1.mp4
I don't know where else it might be shared, but if you want a link to the video above, that will do it.
didn't notice any other dick drawings in the storm.
Is it normal for giant ass ships to just mill around like that?
great music - good video
Music was perfect, thank you for this.
I love the music.
I can only see three color blocks with dashes everywhere. Video doesn't move from that frame.
Any backup of the vid???