His personal opinion was obvious. If his personal opinion was the same he would’ve said so. The thing is he doesn’t know If I’m a douche with a recorder in my pocket ready to get him fucked over. He did make sure to tell me he voted for trump though. He said but because I work for the feds (raised his arm like nazi salute) I have to tell you to wear your mask and get the vaccine.
True. Though bigger than masks - a willingness to prescribe HCQ is probably a good litmus test on the honesty and and quality of these doctors. I wouldn't ever bother with the kind of doctor that was trained by the media to think HCQ was bad and masks were good.
And that, right there, screams that these people are willing to stand by while people are needlessly sickened or die from something they KNOW is harmful--face diapers; this is despicable beyond words. The anatomy and physiology is clear, unambiguous and true. I would never trust any of them who go along to get along. What ELSE will they do to feather their own nests? Together, these people could stop this IF they stood up and told the truth. That they won't is demonic.
It is unfortunate, but a lot of people in their position often have to toe the line when it comes to that. OP is an assumed patriot, but his doctor cannot know that for sure. In this current age and culture, we have people out there looking to cause conflict.
When I was working as a delivery driver for a medical company, I would engage in friendly conversation/smalltalk...until one day I received a complaint from an office I had visited. The nurse had called to complain I was unprofessional, when all I did was respond to her initiating conversation. Took me by surprise; I thought she was a very nice lady.
You can bet I stopped talking to anyone, politely telling them I just need to install and be on my way. I needed that job and the money. Is it different than OP’s situation? Absolutely, my opinion isn’t carrying the weight of the doctor’s...but I bet that doc needs that job, and risking it is too much.
I respectfully disagree. Our society would be much better if we were all honest with ourselves and those around us. We are people first, and believing that a title or position takes precedence will lead us to serve false masters. Someone will eventually criticise you anyway for being too silent, or for smiling too much, or too little. When everyone caves in, we live in a world of stuffed shirts where hearts are replaced by hot air and operational manuals. The good news is that it's always easy to be yourself, crack the shell, and let your real self shine. Don't be afraid.
The doctor's job is to teach his patients and impart the truth. To do less is a dereliction of duty and malpractice, at the very least. YOU were delivering and installing; people's lives did not depend on your being truthful as a health professional about things that people would ingest, be injected with, or wear.
How would you like to pay for medical school make a couple hundred thousand dollars a year buy a house have kids then lose your job. It's easy to talk tough.
Precisely! You have to do what you have to do, as long as you conscience allows. I like to think I put myself in other peoples shoes before judging them. Even with these Trump haters, I think if all I heard was MSM rhetoric I would maybe think the same, and especially if all I heard was Trump lovers condemning me.
I come from the angle of saying, 'I can see what you mean but did you hear the whole statement Trump made. People are more willing to listen.
Oh and to u/Dead_Echo my son in law is such a friendly chatty guy too and when he was working in a wood yard, he offered to help carry the wood to a car for a woman. He also used to for some of the men too by the way. This so and so took offence thinking he was inferring that she was weak because she was a woman, and complained to his boss, who literally gave him a warning. Needless to say he left not long after and found another job. This world is crazy right now.
It's also easy to say "I have to give you this info, but outside of the scope of this appointment and my employer's requirements, my personal opinion is X. Please don't repeat this without clarifying that it is my individual opinion and not the company policy." Honesty is always best. And if a person has a license to practice, they can get a new job within a week. The worst case is that they'd be asked to work contrary to their conscience, which is what they are already doing. That said, the doctor communicated his real opinion... context is important, and I can't criticize what I didn't witness, except on a hypothetical basis.
These people take solemn oaths; supposedly they're in these professions to contribute to the better health of those who consult them. There is a lot more to life than the money that some are so concerned with. This demonstrates little integrity, honesty, and a disinterest in doing the high calling that one signs on to do. Many bitch an moan about the condition of our country today. These attitudes and motivations are exactly what got us here.
^^^ This. He says he 'has to tell him to wear a mask and get a vaccine.' He's a freaking medical doctor. Why must he follow orders? And whose orders is he following?
He's following the orders of the company he works for. And in some locations, there is no choice. In my town, one big corporation owns the only hospital and all the doctors offices. They directly control what the doctors can and cannot prescribe.
"I’m not allowed”
BS. Grow a pair
His personal opinion was obvious. If his personal opinion was the same he would’ve said so. The thing is he doesn’t know If I’m a douche with a recorder in my pocket ready to get him fucked over. He did make sure to tell me he voted for trump though. He said but because I work for the feds (raised his arm like nazi salute) I have to tell you to wear your mask and get the vaccine.
That's as crystal clear as he can make it without verbalizing it.
True. Though bigger than masks - a willingness to prescribe HCQ is probably a good litmus test on the honesty and and quality of these doctors. I wouldn't ever bother with the kind of doctor that was trained by the media to think HCQ was bad and masks were good.
If he feels more harm is being done with them than without he is legally obligated to uphold his hippocratic oath and is defended in doing so by 1A.
They’ll take his license away and he’ll spend years fighting to get it back. That’s what the AMA does to doctors who treat Lyme.
And that, right there, screams that these people are willing to stand by while people are needlessly sickened or die from something they KNOW is harmful--face diapers; this is despicable beyond words. The anatomy and physiology is clear, unambiguous and true. I would never trust any of them who go along to get along. What ELSE will they do to feather their own nests? Together, these people could stop this IF they stood up and told the truth. That they won't is demonic.
It is unfortunate, but a lot of people in their position often have to toe the line when it comes to that. OP is an assumed patriot, but his doctor cannot know that for sure. In this current age and culture, we have people out there looking to cause conflict.
When I was working as a delivery driver for a medical company, I would engage in friendly conversation/smalltalk...until one day I received a complaint from an office I had visited. The nurse had called to complain I was unprofessional, when all I did was respond to her initiating conversation. Took me by surprise; I thought she was a very nice lady.
You can bet I stopped talking to anyone, politely telling them I just need to install and be on my way. I needed that job and the money. Is it different than OP’s situation? Absolutely, my opinion isn’t carrying the weight of the doctor’s...but I bet that doc needs that job, and risking it is too much.
I respectfully disagree. Our society would be much better if we were all honest with ourselves and those around us. We are people first, and believing that a title or position takes precedence will lead us to serve false masters. Someone will eventually criticise you anyway for being too silent, or for smiling too much, or too little. When everyone caves in, we live in a world of stuffed shirts where hearts are replaced by hot air and operational manuals. The good news is that it's always easy to be yourself, crack the shell, and let your real self shine. Don't be afraid.
Wish I could upvote this 1000x and shout it from a mountaintop.
The doctor's job is to teach his patients and impart the truth. To do less is a dereliction of duty and malpractice, at the very least. YOU were delivering and installing; people's lives did not depend on your being truthful as a health professional about things that people would ingest, be injected with, or wear.
How would you like to pay for medical school make a couple hundred thousand dollars a year buy a house have kids then lose your job. It's easy to talk tough.
Precisely! You have to do what you have to do, as long as you conscience allows. I like to think I put myself in other peoples shoes before judging them. Even with these Trump haters, I think if all I heard was MSM rhetoric I would maybe think the same, and especially if all I heard was Trump lovers condemning me.
I come from the angle of saying, 'I can see what you mean but did you hear the whole statement Trump made. People are more willing to listen.
Oh and to u/Dead_Echo my son in law is such a friendly chatty guy too and when he was working in a wood yard, he offered to help carry the wood to a car for a woman. He also used to for some of the men too by the way. This so and so took offence thinking he was inferring that she was weak because she was a woman, and complained to his boss, who literally gave him a warning. Needless to say he left not long after and found another job. This world is crazy right now.
It's also easy to say "I have to give you this info, but outside of the scope of this appointment and my employer's requirements, my personal opinion is X. Please don't repeat this without clarifying that it is my individual opinion and not the company policy." Honesty is always best. And if a person has a license to practice, they can get a new job within a week. The worst case is that they'd be asked to work contrary to their conscience, which is what they are already doing. That said, the doctor communicated his real opinion... context is important, and I can't criticize what I didn't witness, except on a hypothetical basis.
These people take solemn oaths; supposedly they're in these professions to contribute to the better health of those who consult them. There is a lot more to life than the money that some are so concerned with. This demonstrates little integrity, honesty, and a disinterest in doing the high calling that one signs on to do. Many bitch an moan about the condition of our country today. These attitudes and motivations are exactly what got us here.
So much for 1a and Hippocratic oath right.
^^^ This. He says he 'has to tell him to wear a mask and get a vaccine.' He's a freaking medical doctor. Why must he follow orders? And whose orders is he following?
He's following the orders of the company he works for. And in some locations, there is no choice. In my town, one big corporation owns the only hospital and all the doctors offices. They directly control what the doctors can and cannot prescribe.