Time to take down CCP space launches as they aren't fit for purpose and poses risk to everyone on the planet if they get hit with any debris. If they can't put them up and bring them down safely, they can't be allowed to continue the way they are.
Rods from God do not fall, they remain in space forever. Study Orbital mechanics FFS.
People seem to think it is like dropping something from a plane in the atmosphere, it is not. In orbit you are in free fall doing say 27,000 MPH (going so fast you free fall and miss the Earth). Rods from God would just sit next to the satellite forever, in fact it would never release unless ejected. What part of Zero G is everyone not understanding?
It is debris from a deorbiting booster. With the exception of SpaceX, all launch vehicle boosters re-enter the atmosphere. And even they had a recent re-entry of some pressurant tanks over the state of Washington.
The "Rods of God" are imaginary. They would not even make good weapons if they existed. (I worked in space defense in the 1980s Strategic Defense Initiative and keep informed on the subject.)
No harm, no foul. I made large post detailing the problems with this delivery system but people still keep posting about it. It is possible to do, you just have to accelerate the rod into orbit then decelerate it almost to a complete stop if you want a steep trajectory onto the target. It is probably the most expensive way to put a kilogram of mass onto target I can think of. The worst part is the misconception that a satellite can release something and it will fall towards the Earth. It will fall on exactly the same trajectory as the satellite that released it.
How do they get dropped from orbit when they are already in free fall? Dudes need to learn some orbital mechanics. I made a large post about this stuff which I am unable to find. Why is the satellite staying in space but the rod suddenly drops out of it when released? It needs to be slowed from 27000 MPH to re-enter using massive amounts of fuel for the second time in this delivery system which is completely impractical.
It would require a de-orbit rocket burn. It only needs to be slowed enough for the perigee to drop below 100 km. After that, aerodynamic drag will do the rest. But the rest of it is a headache and I agree that it is impractical.
Yeah, I discussed using atmospheric braking in another post. In it I showed that while this is certainly doable albeit with a reentry burn, it is the most expensive way possible to put mass on target and we are talking about a telephone pole of tungsten. If the Tungsten came from space it might make a little more sense.
In summary: Can it be done with an unlimited budget (and a motherfucking reentry burn) ? Yes. Is it a good idea? Aside from the advantage of getting your weapons close to an enemy before launch it is the absolute worst idea possible! (aside from sending the heavy object around the Neptune first, for shits and giggles)
Big tungsten rods don't make sense. Very massive to put into orbit. Bothersome to de-orbit. Problematic to guide to target. Overkill for ordinary targets and not as effective as a nuke for extraordinary targets. Tungsten from space? As long as we are unicorn-farting, why not platinum?
Unlimited budgets don't exist. A ballasted conventional re-entry vehicle with radar homing (think Pershing II warhead) could probably sink a battleship. But as an orbital weapon, you would have to wait until the orbit track crossed the target and the timing was right. Why bother, when a ballistic missile can do the job without waiting? (It doesn't get you "close" to your target. You have to drop from orbit thousands of kilometers upstream.)
Yeah, your point on close to target is right, it is actually probably half a great circle arc, not close to target at all. (my own brain fart). The whole idea is stupid.
No, they would sit next to the satellite that released them with a speed differential of 0 MPH. it would be a satellite companion floating in space forever. This is basic stuff. Answer me why would it accelerate to earth when the satellite drops it? It would not. It would remain in free fall in orbit, That is what an orbit is..
I love the smell of hypersonic tungsten in the morning.
If they land in precise hits, I'd say you're right! Time will tell...
Time to take down CCP space launches as they aren't fit for purpose and poses risk to everyone on the planet if they get hit with any debris. If they can't put them up and bring them down safely, they can't be allowed to continue the way they are.
Who said anything about talking? That obviously doesn't work with these types of tyrants and despots.
You think we listen? Ha ha please face wall.
If it hadn’t been for Clintongue, the Chy-nese rockets would still be crashing into the south Chy-na sea today.
Rods from God do not fall, they remain in space forever. Study Orbital mechanics FFS.
People seem to think it is like dropping something from a plane in the atmosphere, it is not. In orbit you are in free fall doing say 27,000 MPH (going so fast you free fall and miss the Earth). Rods from God would just sit next to the satellite forever, in fact it would never release unless ejected. What part of Zero G is everyone not understanding?
Who are the targets?
I'll subscribe to that
It is debris from a deorbiting booster. With the exception of SpaceX, all launch vehicle boosters re-enter the atmosphere. And even they had a recent re-entry of some pressurant tanks over the state of Washington.
The "Rods of God" are imaginary. They would not even make good weapons if they existed. (I worked in space defense in the 1980s Strategic Defense Initiative and keep informed on the subject.)
Username checks out.
Holly Rods!
No harm, no foul. I made large post detailing the problems with this delivery system but people still keep posting about it. It is possible to do, you just have to accelerate the rod into orbit then decelerate it almost to a complete stop if you want a steep trajectory onto the target. It is probably the most expensive way to put a kilogram of mass onto target I can think of. The worst part is the misconception that a satellite can release something and it will fall towards the Earth. It will fall on exactly the same trajectory as the satellite that released it.
How do they get dropped from orbit when they are already in free fall? Dudes need to learn some orbital mechanics. I made a large post about this stuff which I am unable to find. Why is the satellite staying in space but the rod suddenly drops out of it when released? It needs to be slowed from 27000 MPH to re-enter using massive amounts of fuel for the second time in this delivery system which is completely impractical.
It would require a de-orbit rocket burn. It only needs to be slowed enough for the perigee to drop below 100 km. After that, aerodynamic drag will do the rest. But the rest of it is a headache and I agree that it is impractical.
Yeah, I discussed using atmospheric braking in another post. In it I showed that while this is certainly doable albeit with a reentry burn, it is the most expensive way possible to put mass on target and we are talking about a telephone pole of tungsten. If the Tungsten came from space it might make a little more sense.
In summary: Can it be done with an unlimited budget (and a motherfucking reentry burn) ? Yes. Is it a good idea? Aside from the advantage of getting your weapons close to an enemy before launch it is the absolute worst idea possible! (aside from sending the heavy object around the Neptune first, for shits and giggles)
Big tungsten rods don't make sense. Very massive to put into orbit. Bothersome to de-orbit. Problematic to guide to target. Overkill for ordinary targets and not as effective as a nuke for extraordinary targets. Tungsten from space? As long as we are unicorn-farting, why not platinum?
Unlimited budgets don't exist. A ballasted conventional re-entry vehicle with radar homing (think Pershing II warhead) could probably sink a battleship. But as an orbital weapon, you would have to wait until the orbit track crossed the target and the timing was right. Why bother, when a ballistic missile can do the job without waiting? (It doesn't get you "close" to your target. You have to drop from orbit thousands of kilometers upstream.)
Yeah, your point on close to target is right, it is actually probably half a great circle arc, not close to target at all. (my own brain fart). The whole idea is stupid.
Nothing supposed about it. They don't exist at all.
No, they would sit next to the satellite that released them with a speed differential of 0 MPH. it would be a satellite companion floating in space forever. This is basic stuff. Answer me why would it accelerate to earth when the satellite drops it? It would not. It would remain in free fall in orbit, That is what an orbit is..
Why do you think an orbit is curved?
From what I understand it creates more of a seismic effect, like a ground ripple spreading out from the impact point.
It would be tough to beat a nuclear device for energy output. But a "rod from God" would just poke a hole in the ground (admittedly a very deep one).
Rocket debris would be comparable to aircraft debris.