I used to work at an oil terminal where we took in the colonial pipeline. Colonial was a part of my life for 10 years. The amount of product that came through that line is unimaginable. The fact that it’s down is going to cause some major problems. I just hope they don’t hit the Harbor Pipeline too… that would be even worse. Hopefully they figure this shit out and fix this shit. Trump needs to come back ASAP. This entire country is turning into a giant joke.
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Yea I was a surveyor on the west coast years ago and wonder what the hackers could actuqlly do. I know that pipeline and ancillaries are monitored constantly, but people still need to open the valves and push the button to turn the pumps on. But I was doing local transfers for barges and between terminals.
I remember them transferring to a lot of computer based stuff for the remote stuff when I was leaving the industry. I’d imagine by now a lot of it is automated. At least the remote aspects of the operations.
Yeah and just think if the keystone pipeline was open, a lot of these problems would be solved in the interim
In truth, it is the same. What comes before is the aftermath.
I tell all the D’s I see that “The pipeline has not been hacked, it’s 100% secure. Must be the government.”
What states will be effect the most by this? I seen NC and GA have stations shutting down and VA is not far behind. I heard DE will be massively fucked yet NJ won't?
SC here, already stations putting up "out of gas" signs.
South East is going to get the brunt of this unfortunately. According to Colonial they SHOULD have substantial amounts of the pipe line back online by the weekend.
As far as I know, our terminal was the last one on the line. I guess dele ding on where other lines jump in, maybe product from other lines can be pumped through the areas behind the affected terminals… but I don’t know where others pop in. If I had to guess, with NJ being the end of the line, anything on the line will affect it. I could be getting confused with the Harbor Pipeline ending at our terminal. It’s been a long time since o worked there.
Interesting thought. Maybe liberal states will be spared?
Seems only commie states are not being effected as much.
The irony of this whole thing is that in California the scaqmd mandate winter and summer blends of gasoline so I don't think California Imports or exports gasoline at all. It's all blended in state.
Maybe like the situation with the supply of wood, perhaps this is just a cover for them to raise the prices. Who knows.
Screw it. Let's hope the Harbor Pipeline goes down, too. It just helps to expose the bullshit.
Get your gas cans filled up now, folks. It's gonna be a long summer.
Btw, how hard would it really be to just reset the networks at Colonial Pipeline. I'm not too familiar on exactly how the ransomware works.
Does it just hijack computers themselves, or does it hijack the whole network and any computers connected to it? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how just one ransomware packet can down a WHOLE FREAKING PIPELINE with MULTIPLE networks attached to it. Makes no sense to me.
Can one of you brainy, coder types explain this?
If a company doesn't have a good IT security team, it can be a clusterfuck. Worst case scenario is they have no backups, no incident response plan, poor network monitoring, no updating core systems to patch vulnerabilities. Research what happened with the Target hack in 2013. One HVAC vendor's laptop ended up with hackers pivoting into point of sale cash registers. Until a full post mortem is done, we won't know what really happened here. There have a been a lot of enterprise vulnerabilities lately. Solar Winds, Codecov, MS Exchange. Could have been anything.
I’m not sore, however the entire system is run by computers. They remotely open valves and operate pumps from miles and miles away on some instances. I’d imagine if they affected that end of the system, the entire line could be completely locked down until the systems were cleared of any issues.
I heard this doesn't really affect the pumps because colonial isn't a large supplier to gas stations but still pretty fooked up SRS.
It supplies 40% of ALL fuel and natural gas needs for the East Coast. 17 States affected.
However, it shouldn't hurt FL too much b cause we get most of our fuel straight from the Gulf thru the Tampa/St Pete refineries.
As far as I know, there's only one pipe in the Colonial Pipeline that comes down into FL, and it's not very large in circumference. Not as large as the rest of the Colonial Pipeline outside FL.
Racetrack, Circle K, BP, Exxon, etc ALL get most of their fuel from Tampa/St Pete refinery stations. Those companies sell the most fuel in this state.
But, prices are gonna go up because, you know, Communism.
17 states, you say. Hmm.
I lived in Alaska when Obama was in office, right before I left gas was in the 5.75 to 6.00 range. I keep trying to tell people were heading right back to the Obama days but potentially even worse.