The men of renown as described in the Bible were genetic hybrids of fallen angels and women. They are not redeemable as they are genetically not human. They proceeded to bring about terrible harm to humanity at the time and to the environment. They were giants whom fed on human flesh and bone, and demanded worship from humans.
Their deeds and behaviors have yet to be forgotten to history as they are still known by the unofficial accounting of their actions. You can always look to ancient mythology for a better understanding: Greek mythos, Indian sub-continent mythos, Native American mythos, Chinese mythos, Aztec mythos, Babylonian mythos, Scandinavian mythos, Germanic mythos, Egyptian mythos, etc.
Everywhere you look you can see their memory is still retained as they were exceedingly terrifying and destructive to humans and to the rest of creation. Noah's bloodline being found pure in his generations (genetically unblemished by nephilim dna), was chosen by God to carry forward the torch of humanity.
Did you ever wonder why God was so strict with the Israelites about not mixing with other people's (preserving genetics and bloodlines chosen for the coming savior (Jesus) from a similar attack vector is the answer).
Did you ever wonder why God ordered the Israelites to kill every person and destroy everything of the Canaanites, the Amelakites, and other people groups? The Canaanites were known to be giants, the scripture gives indications that their genetic bloodline in at least some of their people was polluted again by Nephilim, the valuable animals of their people's were also required to be slaughtered for the same reason.
God was not going to allow the Nephilim to simply start again with destroying the creation permanently and irredeemably. They were restrained and where pockets remained, God raised up tribes of people to destroy them. Many groups have such stories of fighting giants that would eat human flesh.
Don't think I'm arguing for some human genetic purity test or something like that. If you are human and your DNA is part of the human genome, then there is no problem. If genetically you have DNA that was somehow altered to be no longer human (science or via fallen angels/ nephilim) then unfortunately you are a hybrid creature not of God's creation and thus the blood of the Lamb would not be extended to cover you.
Does anyone in this world today fall under the hybrid designation? -- I have no idea and will allow God to make that judgement.
Is it possible that someday science will take us past a point of no return with genetic alterations? -- I would say this is very likely to occur within the end times. A Mark of the Beast that is a genetic modification would make allot of sense explaining why those who take the Mark cannot be saved.
Where is this scientific genetic modification line? -- I cannot say for sure. I believe the modification would have to involve synthetic genes that are not found in the naturally occurring genome of humans.
"They are not redeemable as they are genetically not human."
You just explained why the DS are pushing transhumanism and gene manipulation. Christ died in order to redeem God's children (humans) from original sin. But...what if your DNA can no longer be considered truly human? Will you miss out on the gift of redemption? Is this the goal of the satanists -- to strip away our chance of being redeemed by Our Savior?
Wow, is that insidious, or what? It looks like the DS is doing everything possible to keep us from Heaven and turn us into minions of satan. Scary stuff!
They didn't know about DNA, we infer that from our knowledge. Read the Book of Enoch and Book of Jasher for a description of the Nephilim and pre-flood days. They aren't in the canonical Bible themselves although both are mentioned there.
I will add that there is a similar flood story in other oral histories, and within historical times, almost, there was an extinction event, the Young Dryas 12,750 BC, which could well have resulted in world wide flooding.
For those not in the know, both these books mentioned, while maybe not canon, does not mean they were not divinely inspired.
There are many ancient writings not included in the Holy Bible, ask a Catholic if you could look through their Bible sometime, there will be some stuff in there you won't recognize.
Biblical canon is a joke. Christ even referenced Enoch and even if He didn't, God's Word isn't limited to the Bible. Conversely, aside from the Big Ten and red letters, the Bible is an interpretation and not absolute. I think Danzel Washington in Book of Eli said it best: "I've got a Bible. It's a little beat up, but the important parts are all there"
If you have an Android device, Google Play, and I presume the Apple store has it for IOS. Search "apocrypha" to get even more. Many have annoying ads but there are so many you can find a good one.
I'd recommend LA Marzulli's books and videos on this subject if you're genuinely curious about this subject. He does a great job of thoroughly explaining this using biblical as well as non-canonical text.
Also, the book of Enoch is directly quoted in parts of the bible, like in the book of Jude for instance.
If God is as powerful as He claims, they aren't beyond redemption. Personally I think irredeemable falls under pedophile cults and those who refuse to repent. Those who take the jab and subscribe to onlyfans aren't beyond saving.
You incorrectly associate getting the current mRNA vaccination with the type of genetic alteration that would make someone a hybrid human.
I am speaking of God's creation. The fallen angels originally existed in God's presence. They rebelled and made war against God. They were thrown out of heaven. No salvation is offered to them. They are irredeemable. Satan's plan since the creation of man (in God's image), has been to corrupt and destroy that creation by any and all means.
So Eve was tempted and sinned by disobeying God's command (literally the only thing that was not allowed to them in their paradise) and Adam also followed suit enjoining in that sin. Sin broke the relationship of man with God and delivered authority on this earth from man to Satan (powers of the air).
Even this was not enough for Satan as God while declaring the immediate consequences and final judgements that awaited man, also declared the redemption and salvation that would come to restore man to God. Jesus being foretold again threatened Satan's plan to corrupt and destroy God's perfect creation.
So what could Satan do? Yes he continued to tempt and corrupt the now fallen sinful man (and that was easier than ever before to succeed at), but to prevent the Christ from arriving would require the destruction of man itself. Corrupting God's creation into something not human was an obvious choice and should not surprise anyone this would be a strategy. Genetics is only a recent discovery for humans. Fallen angels who witnessed God create our world would already have this information.
The fallen angels brought the nephilim before the flood. Only Noah's family was spared.
God separated a chosen line of people via Abraham and brought about the nation of Israel. He provided them laws that would insure their lineage remained uncorrupted by further attempts to hybrids fallen angels and humans. Israel had no understanding of genetics, but the rules protected them from corruption of their bloodlines.
The reason nephilim are not redeemable is because they come from the line of fallen angels for which no redemption is offered.
Christ died to save humans from our sin and restore us in relationship to God. He did not die to restore fallen angels, and the Bible is clear on the outcome of the fallen angels and demons.
I asked a Chabadic Rabbi about the Nephelim. What were they?
He said there were angels in heaven who told G-d that man was too sinful.
G-d said: "It is because Man is half physical form and half divine essence. The physical form makes it more of a struggle for man to overcome the evil inclination."
The angels responded: "That's nonsense. If we were in human form, we would not be corrupted and we would lead men to virtue."
G-d said: "Okay, we'll see about that."
G-d put these angels into physical bodies, and let them keep their angelic memories so they could try to make good on their claim. They were instantly corrupted.
One Rabbi I listened to online talked about G-d's strict measures. And how some people read it and think it's over the top. But he asks a very sharp question.
Q: What's worse than extremely strict parents who punish you for your infractions, even if they don't seem like a big deal?
A: Parents who don't give a damn and never punish you for anything you do.
The men of renown as described in the Bible were genetic hybrids of fallen angels and women. They are not redeemable as they are genetically not human. They proceeded to bring about terrible harm to humanity at the time and to the environment. They were giants whom fed on human flesh and bone, and demanded worship from humans.
Their deeds and behaviors have yet to be forgotten to history as they are still known by the unofficial accounting of their actions. You can always look to ancient mythology for a better understanding: Greek mythos, Indian sub-continent mythos, Native American mythos, Chinese mythos, Aztec mythos, Babylonian mythos, Scandinavian mythos, Germanic mythos, Egyptian mythos, etc.
Everywhere you look you can see their memory is still retained as they were exceedingly terrifying and destructive to humans and to the rest of creation. Noah's bloodline being found pure in his generations (genetically unblemished by nephilim dna), was chosen by God to carry forward the torch of humanity.
Did you ever wonder why God was so strict with the Israelites about not mixing with other people's (preserving genetics and bloodlines chosen for the coming savior (Jesus) from a similar attack vector is the answer).
Did you ever wonder why God ordered the Israelites to kill every person and destroy everything of the Canaanites, the Amelakites, and other people groups? The Canaanites were known to be giants, the scripture gives indications that their genetic bloodline in at least some of their people was polluted again by Nephilim, the valuable animals of their people's were also required to be slaughtered for the same reason.
God was not going to allow the Nephilim to simply start again with destroying the creation permanently and irredeemably. They were restrained and where pockets remained, God raised up tribes of people to destroy them. Many groups have such stories of fighting giants that would eat human flesh.
Don't think I'm arguing for some human genetic purity test or something like that. If you are human and your DNA is part of the human genome, then there is no problem. If genetically you have DNA that was somehow altered to be no longer human (science or via fallen angels/ nephilim) then unfortunately you are a hybrid creature not of God's creation and thus the blood of the Lamb would not be extended to cover you.
Does anyone in this world today fall under the hybrid designation? -- I have no idea and will allow God to make that judgement.
Is it possible that someday science will take us past a point of no return with genetic alterations? -- I would say this is very likely to occur within the end times. A Mark of the Beast that is a genetic modification would make allot of sense explaining why those who take the Mark cannot be saved.
Where is this scientific genetic modification line? -- I cannot say for sure. I believe the modification would have to involve synthetic genes that are not found in the naturally occurring genome of humans.
OP, you just hit the nail on the head:
"They are not redeemable as they are genetically not human."
You just explained why the DS are pushing transhumanism and gene manipulation. Christ died in order to redeem God's children (humans) from original sin. But...what if your DNA can no longer be considered truly human? Will you miss out on the gift of redemption? Is this the goal of the satanists -- to strip away our chance of being redeemed by Our Savior?
Wow, is that insidious, or what? It looks like the DS is doing everything possible to keep us from Heaven and turn us into minions of satan. Scary stuff!
Wow. This makes a lot of sense.
Like the MRNA "vaccines?" They change you permanently and your future offspring. I feel there's similarities.
Which bible books is this information contained in?
They didn't know about DNA, we infer that from our knowledge. Read the Book of Enoch and Book of Jasher for a description of the Nephilim and pre-flood days. They aren't in the canonical Bible themselves although both are mentioned there.
I will add that there is a similar flood story in other oral histories, and within historical times, almost, there was an extinction event, the Young Dryas 12,750 BC, which could well have resulted in world wide flooding.
For those not in the know, both these books mentioned, while maybe not canon, does not mean they were not divinely inspired.
There are many ancient writings not included in the Holy Bible, ask a Catholic if you could look through their Bible sometime, there will be some stuff in there you won't recognize.
That doesn't mean it is wrong or bad.
Biblical canon is a joke. Christ even referenced Enoch and even if He didn't, God's Word isn't limited to the Bible. Conversely, aside from the Big Ten and red letters, the Bible is an interpretation and not absolute. I think Danzel Washington in Book of Eli said it best: "I've got a Bible. It's a little beat up, but the important parts are all there"
I believe, it’s my opinion, that the Constitution was Divinely inspired.
There is a book of Enoch? Oooo How does one good about finding these. You have peaked my interest.
Search for Michael Heiser on YouTube. He is a scholar who explains these things clearly to a lay audience.
If you have an Android device, Google Play, and I presume the Apple store has it for IOS. Search "apocrypha" to get even more. Many have annoying ads but there are so many you can find a good one.
You can order it on Amazon and find recorded versions on youtube.
I'd recommend LA Marzulli's books and videos on this subject if you're genuinely curious about this subject. He does a great job of thoroughly explaining this using biblical as well as non-canonical text.
Also, the book of Enoch is directly quoted in parts of the bible, like in the book of Jude for instance.
If God is as powerful as He claims, they aren't beyond redemption. Personally I think irredeemable falls under pedophile cults and those who refuse to repent. Those who take the jab and subscribe to onlyfans aren't beyond saving.
You incorrectly associate getting the current mRNA vaccination with the type of genetic alteration that would make someone a hybrid human.
I am speaking of God's creation. The fallen angels originally existed in God's presence. They rebelled and made war against God. They were thrown out of heaven. No salvation is offered to them. They are irredeemable. Satan's plan since the creation of man (in God's image), has been to corrupt and destroy that creation by any and all means.
So Eve was tempted and sinned by disobeying God's command (literally the only thing that was not allowed to them in their paradise) and Adam also followed suit enjoining in that sin. Sin broke the relationship of man with God and delivered authority on this earth from man to Satan (powers of the air).
Even this was not enough for Satan as God while declaring the immediate consequences and final judgements that awaited man, also declared the redemption and salvation that would come to restore man to God. Jesus being foretold again threatened Satan's plan to corrupt and destroy God's perfect creation.
So what could Satan do? Yes he continued to tempt and corrupt the now fallen sinful man (and that was easier than ever before to succeed at), but to prevent the Christ from arriving would require the destruction of man itself. Corrupting God's creation into something not human was an obvious choice and should not surprise anyone this would be a strategy. Genetics is only a recent discovery for humans. Fallen angels who witnessed God create our world would already have this information.
The fallen angels brought the nephilim before the flood. Only Noah's family was spared.
God separated a chosen line of people via Abraham and brought about the nation of Israel. He provided them laws that would insure their lineage remained uncorrupted by further attempts to hybrids fallen angels and humans. Israel had no understanding of genetics, but the rules protected them from corruption of their bloodlines.
The reason nephilim are not redeemable is because they come from the line of fallen angels for which no redemption is offered.
Christ died to save humans from our sin and restore us in relationship to God. He did not die to restore fallen angels, and the Bible is clear on the outcome of the fallen angels and demons.
Repentance is a requirement.
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I asked a Chabadic Rabbi about the Nephelim. What were they?
He said there were angels in heaven who told G-d that man was too sinful.
G-d said: "It is because Man is half physical form and half divine essence. The physical form makes it more of a struggle for man to overcome the evil inclination."
The angels responded: "That's nonsense. If we were in human form, we would not be corrupted and we would lead men to virtue."
G-d said: "Okay, we'll see about that."
G-d put these angels into physical bodies, and let them keep their angelic memories so they could try to make good on their claim. They were instantly corrupted.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing that perspective.
God seems to be very into "Okay, we'll see about that."
Learning the hard way sure isn't fun. But it's definitely taught me a lot.
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One Rabbi I listened to online talked about G-d's strict measures. And how some people read it and think it's over the top. But he asks a very sharp question.
Q: What's worse than extremely strict parents who punish you for your infractions, even if they don't seem like a big deal?
A: Parents who don't give a damn and never punish you for anything you do.
It's amazing how simple the best advice always turns out to be. Thanks, as always, for your take. I appreciate your perspective. Shalom.