Shedding is a thing for real vaccines, because real vaccines are made of real viruses (some). So its not so much "shedding" but just normal transmission of the virus that was injected as a vaccine.
The spike protein is a transmembrane protein. It can't exist (at least not in its normal shape) outside of the membrane it is built into. It also doesn't just leave the membrane. Is it possible some part of it is being cut off and floating around? Maybe, but the interface with the ACE2 protein is a 3D structure that requires the whole protein to interact (probably). There is no evidence whatsoever that such a thing is happening, and no biological process by which it can.
And if these miracle proteins DID happen to get free of their membrane jail and remained intact (both impossible), there is no path out of the lumen, into the bloodstream, then out of the body, then into another body, then into their blood, then into the lumen of some tissue that just so happens to express the ACE2 protein...
Its like, 10 steps of impossibility. It ain't happenen.
What is likely happening is a pheromone response, just like has happened with menstruation for all of human history. Since all stories of "spike protein shedding" are also stories of menstruation, that is a fairly likely scenario.
I don't know about the Frontline doctors talking about shedding specifically. Do you mean that group of five doctors that spoke about it? I didn't watch the whole thing. I only saw about 15 minutes of it. Once someone starts getting the biology wrong I tend to stop listening.
Doctors are not biologists. People (who aren't biologists or doctors) don't realize that. Don't get me wrong, some are, but in general, unless they are a specialist that requires specific knowledge in cell biology (oncologist e.g.) or they are also a researcher (MD PhD) they generally don't have any training past junior year undergrad in cell biology with a minimal refresher in their MD. They focus on anatomy, disease, trauma, etc. The actual biology is not a focus of study, so they often get things wrong (its a very complicated subject).
So if those doctors said other good things after the first 15 minutes I didn't hear it. Regardless, I have yet to hear a viable path by which these vaccines can be "shedding", and a whole mess of paths that get basic cell and molecular biology wrong in the explanation.
Let me give you an example of a possible path by which "shedding" could happen. I still think it is almost certainly a pheromone response, just because it fits the anecdotal data I have seen, but I will indulge the idea for a second.
Transmembrane proteins (like the spike protein) can be cut by enzymes that are outside the cell designed for that purpose. This can cause a part of the protein that is on the exterior to be cut off. This part can possibly go off and be a signal for some other cell. It loses all its tertiary structure, but it retains its secondary structure and that can potentially be a signal elsewhere.
The problem that I have with that idea is, generally such long range peptide signals are very specific (a part of the bodies normal function, designed through eons of evolution).
This is a novel protein (we've never encountered it before biologically) so there is no reason we should have pathways that would use a small part of this protein as a signal. The key here is that such a signal is only a signal in its secondary structure. The tertiary structure requires the whole protein to remain intact. You can think of these two different structures as being like 2D v. 3D. Its not quite that way, but it might give an idea. The tertiary structure comes from a bunch of different parts of the protein that are not immediately connected sequentially, but come together when its all folded up (like origami). It is this tertiary structure that acts as a signal with the ACE2 protein. Once it gets cut off and starts floating around (hypothetically) it looks completely different. It will never have that 3D structure again because parts no longer are there when it gets cut (they are sequentially far away even though they were close in the folded structure).
So even if these little pieces of the protein got away, and somehow went into the blood (not actually that easy, but not impossible) and then somehow got out of the body and transferred to another person, and somehow made it into a tissue in that person that expressed an ACE2 protein, it would still almost certainly be insufficient to make a connection.
I just can't come up with a biological basis by how a novel transmembrane protein could be "shedding" and having an effect, even hypothetically.
Now, biology is very complicated, and I don't know everything (we don't know shit relative to what there is still left to learn about biology), so perhaps there is some path, but if there is, it would at a minimum need to fit in with what we do know, and I have yet to hear anything that does.
I thought the concept of "shedding" spike proteins sounded a bit far-fetched, but I do respect the opinions of Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, who I have followed for 20 years:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/l45gYscF26Qw/
I think the biggest point is that there is so much we do not know. And can't yet know.
It's just a guess because we see needle, we know (some) contents mRNA/DNA create spike and we think, well this is the novel element, and the untaxed are reporting the same a vaxxed, so it's an easy quick assumption before more applied rigorous.
As pointed out the "self spreading" vaccine angle, appeared out of the shedding Conner and for that we have been focused on something, we may have MISSED, and that is a big thing to miss, so we have it now in the sights.
To me that is the value of the "shedding" controversy.
"Shedding Spike Proteins" is so exceptionally unlikely, it's just as unlikely as dying from Coronavirus.
It's not easy to shed glycoproteins. Unless you're eating other's shit, you're safe.
This whole "fertility" thing idiots are spreading is more prolific than vaccine shedding would ever be. It's complete disinfomation spread by people with no concept of reality, wishing to confirm their bias.
Perhaps the biological texts and current state of the art, indicate thus, but you can not ignore a main tenant of the self appointed "elties" and in the current fully unprecedented context to push to inject all of humanity with genetic cocoons that past eugenists could only theorise - Many people thought such a thing would never happen. Yet, it is, happening.
They have clearly stated they want full control of reproduction.
They have stated it so many times. Huxley to Kissinger and all the rest. They want to arrest freewill as an inalienable truth. They view humanity as something the same or less than an animal to be managed as they see fit.
Gentle "progressive" coercive measures, since the mid 60's cultural revolution across the world, beginning in the US, pushing access to contraception and then on-demand walk-in abortion, have been culturally manufactured and disseminated using the nascent broadcast media and new media, to convince entire populations, entire nations, to stop having children, even convince the woman to kill her unborn child and the man stand idly by.
Fertility has been under attack for many decades now for a long time, it's another vector of attack in the overall attack on the family. the more you can delay people having families, the more you can destabilise a society.
The arrival of children teach many a valuable life lesson if they are in the right mind to accept it. Responsibility and interconnectedness of life. Then suddenly those "conservative' pillars make a lot more sense, your liberal holiday has to come to an end, the sooner perhpas the better, because children need ot be protected. That is more of less the whole basis of organised society Food > Family equation, everything after that is a beautiful bonus of freedom of expression if allowed exist.
There was a point in life people worried mainly about money, food on the table and raising their family. I think that is seen as the 50's in the US.
So much headspace, can you imagine the headspace, tranquil stable family life creates?
Many can not, it is but a distance "dream" and the progressive have tried to reframe as a total "nightmare" were woman were slaves in the kitchen. Too late as some woman release their mothers and maybe even mothers mothers had a much better life than they will ever enjoy.
Look at the ridiculous complexity of living now, look at what the Bankers fiat money has achieved, endless fragmentation of the human soul, more in the cybernetic age, allowing social neurosis reach levels never imagined, and easily leveraged by the cabal to keep people out of they minds and awareness of the cage they are allowed to exist within.
The malthusians are pitiful in their dismal outlook, and to compensate they assume playing G-D is without consequences.
Just from a purely mechanical, real standpoint, spike proteins, aren't that easy to shed... it's sorta... it's not possible because of how the entire process goes.
Sorta like... you can't go to the moon in a tin can. The mechanism and materials you're working with are incompatible with your end goal.
Viral Shedding is a real, but minor thing that CAN happen, in very rare cases (the mechanism isn't very prolific), but the way any of these vaccines work, isn't how it would spread. Not in a viral shedding sense.
Blood transfusions and unprotected sex could certainly potentially be vectors for it, but not merely being around that person.
I think the more pertinent issue is one of forced vaccinations. Forced vaccinations in order to access food, water, power, jobs, benefits, medications etc
That reminds me of a guy I met once who had a PhD in hypnosis. He asked me if I believe in free will. I said I struggled with the question for many years, but I believe in it now. I asked if he believed in it. He said he believed people have it but mostly don't use it.
We are not shielded from our own Free Will.
Darwin lurks in the shadows.
Shedding Spike proteins doesn't have much to do with free will.
It also doesn't have much to do with reality.
Shedding is a thing for real vaccines, because real vaccines are made of real viruses (some). So its not so much "shedding" but just normal transmission of the virus that was injected as a vaccine.
The spike protein is a transmembrane protein. It can't exist (at least not in its normal shape) outside of the membrane it is built into. It also doesn't just leave the membrane. Is it possible some part of it is being cut off and floating around? Maybe, but the interface with the ACE2 protein is a 3D structure that requires the whole protein to interact (probably). There is no evidence whatsoever that such a thing is happening, and no biological process by which it can.
And if these miracle proteins DID happen to get free of their membrane jail and remained intact (both impossible), there is no path out of the lumen, into the bloodstream, then out of the body, then into another body, then into their blood, then into the lumen of some tissue that just so happens to express the ACE2 protein...
Its like, 10 steps of impossibility. It ain't happenen.
What is likely happening is a pheromone response, just like has happened with menstruation for all of human history. Since all stories of "spike protein shedding" are also stories of menstruation, that is a fairly likely scenario.
u/#michaelconfused
You just made my day. ??? what's your opinion about Frontline doctors saying otherwise? Sincere question.
I don't know about the Frontline doctors talking about shedding specifically. Do you mean that group of five doctors that spoke about it? I didn't watch the whole thing. I only saw about 15 minutes of it. Once someone starts getting the biology wrong I tend to stop listening.
Doctors are not biologists. People (who aren't biologists or doctors) don't realize that. Don't get me wrong, some are, but in general, unless they are a specialist that requires specific knowledge in cell biology (oncologist e.g.) or they are also a researcher (MD PhD) they generally don't have any training past junior year undergrad in cell biology with a minimal refresher in their MD. They focus on anatomy, disease, trauma, etc. The actual biology is not a focus of study, so they often get things wrong (its a very complicated subject).
So if those doctors said other good things after the first 15 minutes I didn't hear it. Regardless, I have yet to hear a viable path by which these vaccines can be "shedding", and a whole mess of paths that get basic cell and molecular biology wrong in the explanation.
Let me give you an example of a possible path by which "shedding" could happen. I still think it is almost certainly a pheromone response, just because it fits the anecdotal data I have seen, but I will indulge the idea for a second.
Transmembrane proteins (like the spike protein) can be cut by enzymes that are outside the cell designed for that purpose. This can cause a part of the protein that is on the exterior to be cut off. This part can possibly go off and be a signal for some other cell. It loses all its tertiary structure, but it retains its secondary structure and that can potentially be a signal elsewhere.
The problem that I have with that idea is, generally such long range peptide signals are very specific (a part of the bodies normal function, designed through eons of evolution).
This is a novel protein (we've never encountered it before biologically) so there is no reason we should have pathways that would use a small part of this protein as a signal. The key here is that such a signal is only a signal in its secondary structure. The tertiary structure requires the whole protein to remain intact. You can think of these two different structures as being like 2D v. 3D. Its not quite that way, but it might give an idea. The tertiary structure comes from a bunch of different parts of the protein that are not immediately connected sequentially, but come together when its all folded up (like origami). It is this tertiary structure that acts as a signal with the ACE2 protein. Once it gets cut off and starts floating around (hypothetically) it looks completely different. It will never have that 3D structure again because parts no longer are there when it gets cut (they are sequentially far away even though they were close in the folded structure).
So even if these little pieces of the protein got away, and somehow went into the blood (not actually that easy, but not impossible) and then somehow got out of the body and transferred to another person, and somehow made it into a tissue in that person that expressed an ACE2 protein, it would still almost certainly be insufficient to make a connection.
I just can't come up with a biological basis by how a novel transmembrane protein could be "shedding" and having an effect, even hypothetically.
Now, biology is very complicated, and I don't know everything (we don't know shit relative to what there is still left to learn about biology), so perhaps there is some path, but if there is, it would at a minimum need to fit in with what we do know, and I have yet to hear anything that does.
It may fall into the disinformation category though. I hope.
I thought the concept of "shedding" spike proteins sounded a bit far-fetched, but I do respect the opinions of Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, who I have followed for 20 years: https://www.bitchute.com/video/l45gYscF26Qw/
I think the biggest point is that there is so much we do not know. And can't yet know.
It's just a guess because we see needle, we know (some) contents mRNA/DNA create spike and we think, well this is the novel element, and the untaxed are reporting the same a vaxxed, so it's an easy quick assumption before more applied rigorous.
As pointed out the "self spreading" vaccine angle, appeared out of the shedding Conner and for that we have been focused on something, we may have MISSED, and that is a big thing to miss, so we have it now in the sights.
To me that is the value of the "shedding" controversy.
"Shedding Spike Proteins" is so exceptionally unlikely, it's just as unlikely as dying from Coronavirus. It's not easy to shed glycoproteins. Unless you're eating other's shit, you're safe.
This whole "fertility" thing idiots are spreading is more prolific than vaccine shedding would ever be. It's complete disinfomation spread by people with no concept of reality, wishing to confirm their bias.
Perhaps the biological texts and current state of the art, indicate thus, but you can not ignore a main tenant of the self appointed "elties" and in the current fully unprecedented context to push to inject all of humanity with genetic cocoons that past eugenists could only theorise - Many people thought such a thing would never happen. Yet, it is, happening.
They have clearly stated they want full control of reproduction.
They have stated it so many times. Huxley to Kissinger and all the rest. They want to arrest freewill as an inalienable truth. They view humanity as something the same or less than an animal to be managed as they see fit.
Gentle "progressive" coercive measures, since the mid 60's cultural revolution across the world, beginning in the US, pushing access to contraception and then on-demand walk-in abortion, have been culturally manufactured and disseminated using the nascent broadcast media and new media, to convince entire populations, entire nations, to stop having children, even convince the woman to kill her unborn child and the man stand idly by.
Fertility has been under attack for many decades now for a long time, it's another vector of attack in the overall attack on the family. the more you can delay people having families, the more you can destabilise a society.
The arrival of children teach many a valuable life lesson if they are in the right mind to accept it. Responsibility and interconnectedness of life. Then suddenly those "conservative' pillars make a lot more sense, your liberal holiday has to come to an end, the sooner perhpas the better, because children need ot be protected. That is more of less the whole basis of organised society Food > Family equation, everything after that is a beautiful bonus of freedom of expression if allowed exist.
There was a point in life people worried mainly about money, food on the table and raising their family. I think that is seen as the 50's in the US.
So much headspace, can you imagine the headspace, tranquil stable family life creates?
Many can not, it is but a distance "dream" and the progressive have tried to reframe as a total "nightmare" were woman were slaves in the kitchen. Too late as some woman release their mothers and maybe even mothers mothers had a much better life than they will ever enjoy.
Look at the ridiculous complexity of living now, look at what the Bankers fiat money has achieved, endless fragmentation of the human soul, more in the cybernetic age, allowing social neurosis reach levels never imagined, and easily leveraged by the cabal to keep people out of they minds and awareness of the cage they are allowed to exist within.
The malthusians are pitiful in their dismal outlook, and to compensate they assume playing G-D is without consequences.
As someone stated in another thread.
F--K around and find out!
I don't doubt any of that.
Just from a purely mechanical, real standpoint, spike proteins, aren't that easy to shed... it's sorta... it's not possible because of how the entire process goes.
Sorta like... you can't go to the moon in a tin can. The mechanism and materials you're working with are incompatible with your end goal.
Viral Shedding is a real, but minor thing that CAN happen, in very rare cases (the mechanism isn't very prolific), but the way any of these vaccines work, isn't how it would spread. Not in a viral shedding sense. Blood transfusions and unprotected sex could certainly potentially be vectors for it, but not merely being around that person.
I think the more pertinent issue is one of forced vaccinations. Forced vaccinations in order to access food, water, power, jobs, benefits, medications etc
Do you have some education and work in virology?
That reminds me of a guy I met once who had a PhD in hypnosis. He asked me if I believe in free will. I said I struggled with the question for many years, but I believe in it now. I asked if he believed in it. He said he believed people have it but mostly don't use it.
Yes the Lord gave us free will Amen.