Why do you trust some faggot X factor actor with google jpegs, zero actual sauce, and is probably an actual satanist over America’s founding fathers, and the many great men who followed in their footsteps?
Freemasonry is a red herring and has historically been a scapegoat for the Royal Society, the Jesuits, and most recently the Communists. Humanity would still be in the dark ages if not for them. The Renaissance, and the American Revolution should be proof enough that masons have guided the world towards light and out of bondage, not darkness and chains. But no, let’s believe some game show contestant who looks like a crack head.
For some reason, very intelligent people’s critical thinking smashes into a brick wall when it comes to masonry, and they’ll believe literary anything someone says over the Internet.
You could've just posted 1 source in context to shut me up. The truth is you can't because you don't know what you're talking about. I've done my due diligence, and anyone else who has as well can very clearly tell that you're full of it. The sooner you admit this to yourself, the better.
You have a preconceived bias against masons because you've latched onto to an idea constantly reinforced by low info bloggers and anons who recycle the same old garbage regurgitated the 5 hour video. You also suffer from cognitive dissonance since you aren't able to reconcile that men like George Washington, Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Hancock, Paul Revere, Robert Treat Paine and Marquis de Lafayette were freemasons.
Just explain why you trust an X factor actor more than the founders of America who actually risked their lives and fortunes to give you a country to call home.
Gonna reply again so this doesn’t go on forever. Those jpegs, each and every single one, were pulled from google... Anyone who has been on the internet “truth community” for more than a few years should be able to recognize all of them because of how much they are recycled. There’s no way to say this without being condescending, I’m sorry. I sincerely implore you to study the source material on masonic subjects for a few years, and maybe we can laugh about this someday. Until then, stay vigilant.
Because I stand up for America's founding fathers in the face of exhausting ignorance? Or because I recommend doing your own independent research? Ever wonder why that triggers you? Don't you think I've heard it all before? The reason I rarely discuss masonry on the internet is because people like you start short-circuiting trying to wrap their head around it. Reasonable people who seek truth don't jump to dramatic conclusions to fill in the gaps in their knowledge, that's what fools do. Getting into these spats is almost never worth it.
Gee, when he gives literally hundreds of photographic examples of the elite, Hollywood types, and entertainers all showing the same symbolism as what’s in the Masons own handbooks, you kinda gather that what he’s saying has validity. You must be a mason yourself defending them like you are.
The glaring fallacy in your view can be explained very simply. Is every group of people throughout history who has used the swastika as a symbol a faction of Nazis?
“Masonic” symbols are timeless universal symbols which have been used for many different purposes, and by many different groups (both good and evil) for thousands of years. Try studying symbology, and you’ll understand that I’m correct. Masonry is foremost a library of knowledge which preserves ancient symbols and the sacred sciences (those things evil people love to hide from you and use against you for spiritual leverage).
I’m not defending masonry as much as I’m defending the men who built America.
It's pretty funny that you need to conjure up a backstory for me in order for your position to make sense. MPH was an honorary 33rd degree mason, which means he was never initiated; all he did was study archives and offer his interpretations. He didn't sit on the outskirts and squirm in ignorant paranoia like you.
One of the most well known 33rd degree masons was Henry Ford of the Ford Motor Company. If you bought a Ford automobile between the years 1919-1927 you would receive a copy of the Dearborn Independent aka The Ford International Weekly. You should look that up since you're hung up on the (((tribe))). I think you'd like it.
Also, you should try studying the symbology of Christianity. It's beautiful. Jesus was a builder who died and was reborn at the age of 33. Try reading into it without a hateful bias. There's a reason America's founding fathers were dedicated freemasons. There's a reason America has a Bill of Rights.
Let's hear you explain why George Washington, Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Hancock, Paul Revere, Robert Treat Paine, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and so many more great Americans were aCtUaLLy all just a bunch of satanic freemasons...
I'll change my position if you can give a coherent response...
Regardless of what you say and whether you are a shill or just a low level mason no one should trust a word you write. Any organization in which there is no transparency to the public will grow corrupt.
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Especially an organization that seeks power and influence by placing it's people in high positions. An organization that not only has it's own agenda but most of the members carrying out the agenda don't know why they are doing what they are doing.
You use our founding fathers as evidence of the Masons good will. Those men have been dead for over 200 years. We have no idea what kind of men lead the masons now.
You can tell me whatever you want, but I will not believe you. Because you belong to a secret society. No one should trust any organization that keeps it's true beliefs and agenda secret.
Much like what happened to our government, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The Masons should make all their most secret texts public, as should all secret societies. Otherwise why should anyone trust what you say?
I don't want you to believe me, I want you to do your own research by examining primary sources, which are not secret and are very widely available thanks to the internet.
Next, if you'll humor me, I want you to read through your post and enumerate the logical fallacies and practical inconsistencies in your argument. If you're an honest truth seeker, none of this should be an issue. That has really been my position this entire time—the emotional/illogical stance people automatically resort to when the issue of masonry arises. In my experience, most people are too lazy to do the research themselves, and instead love to parrot secondary interpretations ad infinitum.
In fact, I'll change my position if you could prove to me that our founding fathers were satanists (masonry and satanism don't mix by the way, but don't take my word for it).
Why do you trust some faggot X factor actor with google jpegs, zero actual sauce, and is probably an actual satanist over America’s founding fathers, and the many great men who followed in their footsteps?
Freemasonry is a red herring and has historically been a scapegoat for the Royal Society, the Jesuits, and most recently the Communists. Humanity would still be in the dark ages if not for them. The Renaissance, and the American Revolution should be proof enough that masons have guided the world towards light and out of bondage, not darkness and chains. But no, let’s believe some game show contestant who looks like a crack head.
For some reason, very intelligent people’s critical thinking smashes into a brick wall when it comes to masonry, and they’ll believe literary anything someone says over the Internet.
Reproduce the citations please.
You could've just posted 1 source in context to shut me up. The truth is you can't because you don't know what you're talking about. I've done my due diligence, and anyone else who has as well can very clearly tell that you're full of it. The sooner you admit this to yourself, the better.
You have a preconceived bias against masons because you've latched onto to an idea constantly reinforced by low info bloggers and anons who recycle the same old garbage regurgitated the 5 hour video. You also suffer from cognitive dissonance since you aren't able to reconcile that men like George Washington, Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Hancock, Paul Revere, Robert Treat Paine and Marquis de Lafayette were freemasons.
Just explain why you trust an X factor actor more than the founders of America who actually risked their lives and fortunes to give you a country to call home.
Gonna reply again so this doesn’t go on forever. Those jpegs, each and every single one, were pulled from google... Anyone who has been on the internet “truth community” for more than a few years should be able to recognize all of them because of how much they are recycled. There’s no way to say this without being condescending, I’m sorry. I sincerely implore you to study the source material on masonic subjects for a few years, and maybe we can laugh about this someday. Until then, stay vigilant.
You had me with your first comment which was rational and sobering. Now you are making me think you are a paid Masonic shill.
Because I stand up for America's founding fathers in the face of exhausting ignorance? Or because I recommend doing your own independent research? Ever wonder why that triggers you? Don't you think I've heard it all before? The reason I rarely discuss masonry on the internet is because people like you start short-circuiting trying to wrap their head around it. Reasonable people who seek truth don't jump to dramatic conclusions to fill in the gaps in their knowledge, that's what fools do. Getting into these spats is almost never worth it.
Gee, when he gives literally hundreds of photographic examples of the elite, Hollywood types, and entertainers all showing the same symbolism as what’s in the Masons own handbooks, you kinda gather that what he’s saying has validity. You must be a mason yourself defending them like you are.
The glaring fallacy in your view can be explained very simply. Is every group of people throughout history who has used the swastika as a symbol a faction of Nazis?
“Masonic” symbols are timeless universal symbols which have been used for many different purposes, and by many different groups (both good and evil) for thousands of years. Try studying symbology, and you’ll understand that I’m correct. Masonry is foremost a library of knowledge which preserves ancient symbols and the sacred sciences (those things evil people love to hide from you and use against you for spiritual leverage).
I’m not defending masonry as much as I’m defending the men who built America.
It's pretty funny that you need to conjure up a backstory for me in order for your position to make sense. MPH was an honorary 33rd degree mason, which means he was never initiated; all he did was study archives and offer his interpretations. He didn't sit on the outskirts and squirm in ignorant paranoia like you.
One of the most well known 33rd degree masons was Henry Ford of the Ford Motor Company. If you bought a Ford automobile between the years 1919-1927 you would receive a copy of the Dearborn Independent aka The Ford International Weekly. You should look that up since you're hung up on the (((tribe))). I think you'd like it.
Also, you should try studying the symbology of Christianity. It's beautiful. Jesus was a builder who died and was reborn at the age of 33. Try reading into it without a hateful bias. There's a reason America's founding fathers were dedicated freemasons. There's a reason America has a Bill of Rights.
Ahh, the satanist mason sympathizer shows his true colors.
Let's hear you explain why George Washington, Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Hancock, Paul Revere, Robert Treat Paine, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and so many more great Americans were aCtUaLLy all just a bunch of satanic freemasons...
I'll change my position if you can give a coherent response...
Regardless of what you say and whether you are a shill or just a low level mason no one should trust a word you write. Any organization in which there is no transparency to the public will grow corrupt. . Especially an organization that seeks power and influence by placing it's people in high positions. An organization that not only has it's own agenda but most of the members carrying out the agenda don't know why they are doing what they are doing.
You use our founding fathers as evidence of the Masons good will. Those men have been dead for over 200 years. We have no idea what kind of men lead the masons now.
You can tell me whatever you want, but I will not believe you. Because you belong to a secret society. No one should trust any organization that keeps it's true beliefs and agenda secret.
Much like what happened to our government, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The Masons should make all their most secret texts public, as should all secret societies. Otherwise why should anyone trust what you say?
I don't want you to believe me, I want you to do your own research by examining primary sources, which are not secret and are very widely available thanks to the internet.
Next, if you'll humor me, I want you to read through your post and enumerate the logical fallacies and practical inconsistencies in your argument. If you're an honest truth seeker, none of this should be an issue. That has really been my position this entire time—the emotional/illogical stance people automatically resort to when the issue of masonry arises. In my experience, most people are too lazy to do the research themselves, and instead love to parrot secondary interpretations ad infinitum.
In fact, I'll change my position if you could prove to me that our founding fathers were satanists (masonry and satanism don't mix by the way, but don't take my word for it).