Thou shalt have no other gods before me
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Well said. Our concept of Hell as a "lake of fire" comes from what is probably the best way to describe the anguish of eternal separation from God to 1st century people. Just like you couldn't explain quantum physics to people 2000 years ago (or many people even today), there had to be an effective metaphor, even though it's limited to the concept of one's corporeal self. Coming into the presense of God and being judged eternally after one leaves their physical body is probably more anguish than we who live in this plane of existence can comprehend, so the idea of physical pain was given to get the point across.
I think this is a really well-expressed explanation of the fact. I wish more people understood this point.
Anyway, on that note, regarding the pain of hell:
The physical universe is a reflection of, and modelled on, the spiritual universe.
Here in earth, our physical selves (aka our bodies) require warmth, light, air + nutrition, food, water. Our bodies bring these together to burn the fuel, generate energy that allows us to act, to simply exist (keep our bodies running) and even multiply.
This reflects the design of the human spirit: to grow and be healthy, our spirit selves (aka our minds & hearts) require God's grace, God's truth, God's love + spiritual nutrition and healthy relationships.
The spiritual energy generated by the actions we live and perform with our own volition and effort are in essence, our spirit's source of nutrition. Don't act, become spiritually malnourished.
But there is a two-edged sword in this principle. Bad actions generate a sort of spiritual toxin, the wages of sin. Satanic spirits gravitate and resonate with those toxins. Conversely, good actions generate a spiritual energy that our spirits need to grow and develop, mature.
The purpose of our earthly life is to grow our spirit, our hearts, our minds, so that they are fully mature and capable of fully giving and receiving God's love as expressed by God and by ourselves and others. In this sense, love is like air, the oxygen of the spirit world.
Sin limits our God-given ability to grow our hearts and minds. Those that live evil lives develop, not naturally but in a twisted, distorted way, due to the spiritual toxins within their spirits. This is the origin of demonic spirits.
In spirit world, those that do not develop their God-given heart cannot breath love. Love is painful to them, so being in God's presence is incredibly painful to them. For those that Do develop their hearts, and have grown the capacity to breathe (in and out) love, the spiritual regions inhabited by those that survive on toxins is incredibly difficult. Like being submerged under water or in a vacuum, where no love is present.
The air of the spirit world is love. God's love is the source of all other loves - parental love, children's love, sibling love and conjugal love.
Heaven is where those who can freely give and receive God's love dwell in the spirit. Hell is the place where those who cannot receive or give God's love exist in the spirit.
In my view, however, the "eternal" question is one of perception. In the spirit, there is no past, no future, there is only the eternal "now". This is why there is "eternal life" - the state of being in the full presence of God, being able to function properly in the spiritual sense, and truly love. "Eternal death" is the state of being separated from God, unable to function normally and having to survive or exist in an atmosphere of poisonous spiritual toxin every moment.
However, in God's grace, at some point, all those originally from God must return to God. Those who have been destroyed and distorted by sin will need to be restored back to God at some point. In this sense, eternal does not mean "for ever". It means, in that state of being transcendent of time and space. In my view.
I completely agree. Our view of the universe is limited to our linear, temporal existence. This is what is ridiculous about staunch atheists who are convinced there is no God, stating stuff about scienctifc evidence, etc. Science is the observation of time, space, and matter. The very first sentence of Genesis assures us that God's existence is something we cannot fathom. "In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter.) God is therefore not bound to these three factors we draw from to understand our universe. God apparently existed before these factors, so God's existence is completely unfathomable to our primitive minds. Even in Ecclesiastes it's said that no human could even assume to grasp God's true nature, or everything "under the sun." Science cannot explain how our ancestors echo through us somehow. DNA cannot explain how my daughter could make a funny face that I hadn't seen my wife make since well before she was ever born and hasn't made since. And there is something profound in how these sick elites gain power from negative energy, with their fearporn media and human suffering, why they have even gone so far as to forbid singing in churches because somehow viruses transmit more from singing (whatever...). They want to squash the powerful, positive energy of love that comes from the united focus of worship. It's probably also why they spend so much energy to try to discourage us "Qtards" from having hope. Every video by X22 I see on Bitchute is littered with trolls who have nothing better to do than to park their ass on each of his videos and spam their crap constantly. I'm kind of reminded of the "mood slime" from Ghostbusters 2.
Thanks Steve.
My only caveat on what you write would be that in fact, humans have an aspect that is also transcendent of time and space; we are more than mere flesh. So we CAN experience and even fathom God. At least, we are designed to do so. That's proved by the reality of Jesus Christ.
However, as you point out, the issue is that God transcends time and space and matter, so yeah, OF COURSE they cannot verify, detect or evaluate God via time, space and material means.
However, the view I subscribe to is that our flesh and spirit were designed to be one, by our growing (without sin) to maturity. The problem is, Adam fell, his offspring came under Satan's control and sovereignty, in which God cannot intervene for certain reasons, so that for us, in the state of sin, our spirit and flesh have never achieved the intended unity.
Even after salvation? Well, yes. That's because the salvation through the cross is a spiritual salvation. Jesus offered up his body in our place so that our spirits could be released in order to return to God's sovereignty. But our bodies continue under Satan's rule. And that's why Christ must return; to complete the adoption process so that not only our spirits, but also our bodies are adopted back into God's lineage and removed from Satan's dominion.
When that takes place, with Both spirit and flesh restored back to God's dominion, our spirits will be able to mature fully as originally intended, and then both the realm of spirit AND the realm of flesh will come under God's sovereignty. At that point, science will evolve to include the reality of the spiritual world (which operates on natural law, God's principles, and perfectly, just as much as the material world does), and we will come to understand the reality of spirit just as clearly as we understand thru science today, the reality of atoms, molecules, particles, matter, biology, etc.
In other words, in the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, science and faith will become perfectly united as two sides of the same coin, just as our spirit and our flesh, both under God's sovereignty, will be in harmony, with no room for sin (or the devil) to creep in and create division within us. Word will equal action, belief will equal experience.
If you read 1st Corinthians and also Romans from the perspective outlined above, it can open up and entirely new dimension of understanding, faith and then heart.
Keywords: adoption, flesh, law of sin, wretched man, etc.
Who is Paul known by? By the Father and by the Son. On that day, Paul will know fully, even as (much as) the Creator and Christ fully know him! His understanding will be raised to that level.