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Thou shalt have no other gods before me (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 5 years ago by ostof 5 years ago by ostof +587 / -0
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– FractalizingIron 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

It depends on HOW one interprets or understands the scripture. Literal interpretation is often favored by those who find it challenging to grasp the symbolic or metaphorical meanings. Jesus taught in parables for a reason.

Re: "Eternal"

If one understands that in the spirit, there is no past, no future (these being inherent properties of the material world aka space), there is only the eternal "now". This is why there is "eternal life" - the state of being in the full presence of God, being able to function properly in the spiritual sense, and truly love, beyond time and space. "Eternal death" is the state of being separated from God, unable to function normally and having to survive or exist in an atmosphere of poisonous spiritual toxin every moment, beyond time and space.

In this sense, eternal does not mean "for ever". It means, in that state of being transcendent of time and space.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

PS.

it just sounds like over analyzing something until...

OK. I get it. If this doesn't resonate with you, I'd move on. But I think you are mistaking "analysis" with understanding and clarity. Just because something is explained clearly, doesn't mean its intellectual or not true. All I am doing is explaining what I understand, through experience over a lifetime, of the reality we live in. If you pray on this topic, perhaps you will be guided.

Either way, may His grace reside with you.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

What a fear-based response. This is not what God wants. He wants understanding of truth truth faith, love and hope, not fear.

it completely changes the meaning the writings were trying to convey

Sorry to say it, but can't you see how incredibly arrogant this stance is? how do you KNOW what meanings the writings were trying to convey? Because theologians told you? Or teachers?

I do agree, caution, diligence and honesty are required. But if you approach this topic from fear, fear and limitation is what you will get.

Why not make an earnest trusting prayer to God, plead with Him, earnestly, nto from fear but from longing to know the truth, longing to understand what He wants you to understand, rather than from being fearful of doing wrong?

How passionately, how sincerely do you desire to understand God's truth? More than your desire to eat? More than your desire to rest? Have you ever shed tears in prayer in earnestly longing to understand the truth he has hidden in the scripture, so that you can stand even one step closer to Him, and love him even one iota more sincerely?

Indeed, one MUST pay attention to not being motivated and driven by one's ego, or pride, or by wanting things to be as you see them for your own benefit. Of course. But you need to understand God's heart. He loves you. if you trust Him, fervently, would he lead you astray?

"believe how it's intended to be believed "

Again, this is the responsibility God has given to you, only you, and no one, not even God can do it for you. You have to go to him, you have to invest the heart, prayer, love and effort to hunt down and understand how GOD understands the scripture, what HE is trying to say to you (and me) through scripture. This cannot be done merely through dogma, or theology, or just reading it and deciding what's good enough for you. It requires your honest and trusting and verfent heart.

And if you cannot trust your own heart, why should God trust you? If you cannot trust your own heart, then repent, shed tears, and ask God to guide you so that eventually you CAN trust your own heart, because God is living in it and guiding you through it.

On that day, when you read the scripture, God will speak to you directly through your heart and give you wisdom and understanding.

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– Queef_Anon 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You bring up an interesting point. Perhaps I needed to be a bit more forthcoming concerning my position. I'm not associated with the people that I'm linking but I'm in full agreement with them.

On Biblical definitions:

www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/restitution/meaningforever.htm

On the reconciliation of all things and God's salvation plan:

www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/restitution/reconciliation.htm

On the state and fate of hell:

https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/state-and-fate-of-hell.htm

An entire link section for the subject:

https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/restitution/index.htm

Take it or leave it but certainly thought-provoking. Happy reading, fren.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks Queef.

I took a glance through, and probably won't be able to read much. Suffering a lot from information overload these days. But what I gleaned in the brief skimming seems certainly consistent with (by and large) the view that I subscribe to.

Perhaps expressed in this one idea? God is a God of love, a parent, the Father of love. Could God be happy knowing that any of his children were suffering under Satan's thralldom? How about any loving human parent? If their son or daughter were captured by sex slavers, and forcibly addicted to heroin, and kept as a sex slave in a tortured state, would you rest easy? Forget it? How much less the Father, whose heart and love for his children is 100 times, 1000 times stronger and more passionate that any human parent?

What about "cut them off"?

The reality of God's great love is that although the process may take time, although it may be long and painful (and it IS painful to God), God's purpose and intent is the restoration of ALL things back to him, in the end.

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