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posted 3 years ago by BigTEXAS 3 years ago by BigTEXAS +19 / -1
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– glade 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

article written by (((Leithner)))

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– High_Drama00 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Idk about this article... Personally wouldn't ask a break pad salesman to explain to me how to raise and butcher a cow... Why should I take some personal investment bankers opinion over the opinion of historical scholars? Also who the fuck starts an article with "the first big lie"... Lol

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– High_Drama00 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Believe what ya want... Would advise ya NOT to take this guy's word... He sounds like he has more of a vendetta than wanting to inform... But whatda I know...I'm just the consumer

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– Burritoes4everyone 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So your defending the south who gave us Andersonville? Now I understand fully the attitude of most of the southern states in that day believed in state sovereignty and fought under those pretenses. But it seems both you and this manipulator (I say that because he’s using the tactic of picking and choosing and not presenting the whole context of a very complex time and circumstance and trying to simplify it into racism) are saying that the tyrants of the north were worse than that of the south? I think Jefferson said it best concerning slavery “ It’s like holding a wolf by the ears.” And yet after the civil war, Lincoln did emancipate the slaves. Was he a part of that or did he fight it because he was a bigot. What do you have to say to the fact that after the civil war, came the opportunity and rise of prosperity and quality of life to the emancipated slave, the peasant and the common man this world has ever seen. This mans quotes from Lincoln all come before the time of a forging through the fire and tribulation of war. Lincoln’s words inscribed upon his memorial are far more profound and largely outweigh those you and this man are presenting. It is dishonest and manipulative to try and present such a complex issue into a couple paragraphs that try and boil it down to “he’s a racist!.” Who do you work for peddling this propaganda? It’s seems to me all the big gubment and the usurping of the constitution came after he was shot.

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– Burritoes4everyone 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

For one I don’t worship Lincoln, I applaud his resolve and ability to rise to one of the darkest hours in our history and preserve this country from being permanently ripped at the seam. The meeting at the Appomattox court house is one of the most honorable meetings in our countries history. My argument is not in the dispute of his statements and them being mildly racist, it is the disingenuous presentation that his motives were evil and racist and that’s all it was about. My argument is in the fact that I believe it was in the best interest for the prosperity of the people of this country that the union was preserved and the idea of ownership of human beings was ended.(maybe just a byproduct, but still a result none the less) He did that correct? Enlighten me on the views of Jefferson Davis his opponent. Enlighten me on how a divided Congress would be able to resolve that deep of a dividing issue. Enlighten me on how declaring martial law in a civil war is tyranny and not a necessary tool. Enlighten me on your speculation of what a better world this would be if the south had succeeded? Enlighten me on how the democrat party that was just defeated started hiding behind masks and terrorizing their political opponents were the good guys? I’m not saying their wasn’t corruption in the north and evil men in the north I’m saying the results of the decisions and actions of Abraham Lincoln led to a better and more prosperous outcome.

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– Burritoes4everyone 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I understand where your coming from, But I still disagree upon the speculation that we would have been better off a divided nation. The thought of inferior and superior races is a world wide phenomenon that goes back to the beginnings of documented human history. No race is exempt from having a history riddled with contempt for the unfamiliar and foreign practices of foreign peoples. Does that mean he was totally given over to evil and all his workings were done with that intent? Your right, secession and revolution do not need to ask permission. The debate of federalism has been waged and debated since the beginning of our founding and I am in no way in favor of an overbearing centralized power. I am in favor of a constitutional Republic that has elected officials who are chosen to act and make decisions based on our best interest. War is inevitable and we elect a commander in chief to step up when it is required to do so. Look at where we are at with fake book and twatter. We are at war and yet they are allowed to operate. Do you not see the destruction that has done? Propaganda is deadly. Who do you think Lincoln imprisoned during war time? If the preservation and protection of innocent life is not worth warring over than what the fuck is? I would be more in favor of throwing your child into the woods after their born than choosing death for them. At least it might have a chance at life. Just because the roots of the clan started off as a veterans good ol boy club does not negate the history of murder, violence and terrorism they are documented doing. You can speculate about the outcome of the civil war and I respect your opinion but my opinion is that regardless of the quotes you mentioned in this article, The actions of Lincoln that led to the preservation of the union was a far better outcome for not only this country but for the world.

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... continue reading thread?
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– bubble_bursts 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

I got news for you. This is not red pill. You are guzzling down cleverly disguised propaganda. A lot of truths interspersed with lot of lies.

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– bubble_bursts 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

It's not about countering a lie with a verifiable fact. If you know anything about fake news and gaslighting, its not that they tell you outright lies, but they lie to you by omission, or by giving wrong context, or by jumping to wrong conclusions.

Lincoln the racist

It maybe true that Lincoln considered his own race superior to that of the slaves. But that makes him just as much a racist as all the founding fathers and pretty much anyone his contemporary.

The truth is - he didnt care about ending slavery. The lie is that - it makes him evil.

A third myth is that Lincoln’s war saved the Union.

The war was never about slavery, just as the BLM is never about Black people. Like now, even then, it was Globalists creating trouble and turmoil because they were throwing a tantrum for not getting what they wanted - financial control. So they decided to destroy the country by breaking it up, by using slavery as an excuse.

What Lincoln did was simply defeating the Globalist's goal. Did he save the Union geographically? Did he ruin the Union philosphically? It simply doesn't matter because those were not the factors - the factor was defeating the Globalist goal of destroying the country. This is just after the fact spin

Lincoln the dictator

This is exactly what they will be saying about Trump. So he suspended Habeas Corpus? So he arrested journalists? What would you say if Trump invoked / has secretly invoked insurrection act? What would you say if he jails Anderson Cooper or Rachael Maddow or any of the CNN/MSDNC operatives trying to destroy the country?

Infact - this might be the real reason for this article. To smear what Lincoln did here as something evil, so the same can be applied to current events.

Only war, say its mythologisers and apologists, could have ended slavery.

This is simply them rubbing it into our faces. They create the war and blame us for waging it. Same applies for the world wars, or vietnam war or any other wars.

Yes, war could have been avoided. If the Globalists didnt bother to manipulate us.

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– corrbrick 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

This is good stuff. The war certainly wasn't about ending slavery. Lincoln could have done that by simply buying out the slave holders like every other Western country did.

So why the war? I have heard a lot about the financial exploitation of the South by the North being the prime mover. I hadn't considered that Globalists might be behind that, but it certainly fits their M.O. Do you have anything you could point me to for more information?

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– Burritoes4everyone 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You do realize they shot him in the back of the head and then paved the way to centralized gov? Usually it’s the good guys that get shot in the back of the head.

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– Burritoes4everyone 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I’ll tell you one thing. Knowing about Albert Pike ( a globalist and mason who was a confederate general )and who his buddies were, tells me a lot. But we also know that the globalists always try and play both sides so who knows, time will tell. I admire and hold with high revere many of the confederate Generals and believe I would be there right behind them based on their view of what was going on at the time, But hindsight is usually 20/20 and Albert Pikes allegiance to the confederacy and the largely democrat ran government that was riddled with masons and globalists and is the same today as it was back then is more than I need to know about the intent or motives behind secession.

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