I already responded to your other comment calling me out on this. Take a break.
I'll repost I guess.
I had to look at a flier on a different website since it appears you have to sign up to FrankSpeech to see his advertisement for this, which makes sense, because apparently he wants me to deliver this proof during an event which is not open to the public.
Which is already shady for any legal contract involving that much money with no information on who will be permitted to serve as legal witnesses to verify in court that Lindell's challenge was met.
Also, the fine details of his challenge doesn't ask us to disprove his proof of voter fraud. It says this:
"$5,000,000 will be offered to any attendee who can prove that this cyber data is not valid data from the November 2020 election."
So essentially, he can post a graph of numbers from the election that don't show anything remotely close to fraud, and even if I prove that fraud didn't occur beyond the shadow of a doubt, I still can't collect the reward. Because he doesn't have to prove fraud, and he's not challenging me to disprove his data.
Instead, I have to prove he didn't collect data from the 2020 election . As long as he took data from the 2020 election, even if he twisted and manipulated and edited and excised data, he still wins.
And remember, this is taking place in a closed symposium, so all the people in the room are going to be people HE chose to be there. If someone actually has the skills to beat his challenge, he doesn't have to let them in. That room is only going to be filled with people who Mike Lindell permitted to be in the room.
Sorry, but does that sound like a transparent, earnest attempt to have his data verified by the outside world?
Watch James Randi. He went after people doing these challenges all the time as psychics and frauds, and almost never got rewarded for proving them wrong because of how the contracts were written to be impossible to beat.
What happened was they didn't like Trump because it was "popular" not to (based on social media, MSM, The View etc...) and now they're finding out they were played and their ego won't allow them to confess they were wrong.
They'll do anything to prove they're right and have been right even if it means lying to others and themselves.
This seems like a horrid argument to me. Of course he needs to verify the people going to this as there will be a physical limit to the number of people allowed. He doesn't want people that have no chance of doing what he is looking for.
You are basically saying....because somebody else didn't pay (psychic debunkers) this can't be done. He has 37TB of data in the form of packet captures. Simply manipulating that amount of data looking for out of place info in the packets or anything of the like is going to take resources. He needs people that are basically high level network analyzers with a background in big data. You are simply crazy if you think this should be available to everyone who wants to play. Just to allow people into such an event he will have to have multiple copies of the data as one can't simply just move around 37TB of anything. The amount of money invested just to allow the best people he can find to try to disprove is a fantastic approach and nobody is interested in debunking a psychic here.
What about security? I mean do you have any idea what a capable person can pull out of such a set of logs? If this data were to get up and leave his possession what could be pulled? This data had to be sourced by a group with some amazing access/power. This was not joe blow in his basement slurping up packets. He is saying he has packets attacking states across the country. This isn't a single packet capture just grabbing up random data......this was all preplanned if he has what he says he does. Simply having this data, if it is legitimate shows you that the powers that be have EVERYTHING. Every single thing you do on the internet.....all of it....and someone gave it to Mike...because they knew what was happening.
I like the idea. I expect he will end up with at least 5 teams of people. I am hoping more like 15. Nobody does this work on their own. It will be a group effort. Different people attacking it from different perspectives with different methodologies. I personally like the idea and probably have enough network experience to understand the challenge at hand.
But if this data requires the level of security because it's vulnerable to being damaged and tanking the entire Plan because this data can prove in court that the election was stolen...
...then perhaps Lindell shouldn't be holding a contest with it. And should just, you know, put it into the court system.
If he's seriously holding what he says he's holding, then I want it in the places where it's going to make a difference. Now. Not serving as the centerpiece to some closed-door symposium challenge. Not being made available to any rando Lindell feels is worthy of messing around in the system to fact-check it.
well think of it from his perspective. He has 37TB of packet data....he got it from random dude that needs to remain anonymous as this person must have security clearance well beyond "going public with 37TB" Mike needs a way to verify the data without....."I paid some dude to make it show what i wanted". He is questioning himself at this point. He is doing it right. If he goes to court and it comes out then that he was had....well that would be a disaster.
And i don't think the data will be damaged. He won't just use the original copy. Court will be in due time....and i am worried about the security of people having this data off site. A lot of data can be pulled from a packet capture...that is where security can be an issue for the machines that got caught up in the capture.
I already responded to your other comment calling me out on this. Take a break.
I'll repost I guess.
I had to look at a flier on a different website since it appears you have to sign up to FrankSpeech to see his advertisement for this, which makes sense, because apparently he wants me to deliver this proof during an event which is not open to the public.
Which is already shady for any legal contract involving that much money with no information on who will be permitted to serve as legal witnesses to verify in court that Lindell's challenge was met.
Also, the fine details of his challenge doesn't ask us to disprove his proof of voter fraud. It says this:
"$5,000,000 will be offered to any attendee who can prove that this cyber data is not valid data from the November 2020 election."
So essentially, he can post a graph of numbers from the election that don't show anything remotely close to fraud, and even if I prove that fraud didn't occur beyond the shadow of a doubt, I still can't collect the reward. Because he doesn't have to prove fraud, and he's not challenging me to disprove his data.
Instead, I have to prove he didn't collect data from the 2020 election . As long as he took data from the 2020 election, even if he twisted and manipulated and edited and excised data, he still wins.
And remember, this is taking place in a closed symposium, so all the people in the room are going to be people HE chose to be there. If someone actually has the skills to beat his challenge, he doesn't have to let them in. That room is only going to be filled with people who Mike Lindell permitted to be in the room.
Sorry, but does that sound like a transparent, earnest attempt to have his data verified by the outside world?
Watch James Randi. He went after people doing these challenges all the time as psychics and frauds, and almost never got rewarded for proving them wrong because of how the contracts were written to be impossible to beat.
Wow, you sheep are capable of some extreme mental gymnastics.
I guess we will wait and see what your next excuse is for why you ignore all of the voter and election fraud evidence.
What happened was they didn't like Trump because it was "popular" not to (based on social media, MSM, The View etc...) and now they're finding out they were played and their ego won't allow them to confess they were wrong.
They'll do anything to prove they're right and have been right even if it means lying to others and themselves.
NPCs gonna NPC.
This seems like a horrid argument to me. Of course he needs to verify the people going to this as there will be a physical limit to the number of people allowed. He doesn't want people that have no chance of doing what he is looking for.
You are basically saying....because somebody else didn't pay (psychic debunkers) this can't be done. He has 37TB of data in the form of packet captures. Simply manipulating that amount of data looking for out of place info in the packets or anything of the like is going to take resources. He needs people that are basically high level network analyzers with a background in big data. You are simply crazy if you think this should be available to everyone who wants to play. Just to allow people into such an event he will have to have multiple copies of the data as one can't simply just move around 37TB of anything. The amount of money invested just to allow the best people he can find to try to disprove is a fantastic approach and nobody is interested in debunking a psychic here.
What about security? I mean do you have any idea what a capable person can pull out of such a set of logs? If this data were to get up and leave his possession what could be pulled? This data had to be sourced by a group with some amazing access/power. This was not joe blow in his basement slurping up packets. He is saying he has packets attacking states across the country. This isn't a single packet capture just grabbing up random data......this was all preplanned if he has what he says he does. Simply having this data, if it is legitimate shows you that the powers that be have EVERYTHING. Every single thing you do on the internet.....all of it....and someone gave it to Mike...because they knew what was happening.
I like the idea. I expect he will end up with at least 5 teams of people. I am hoping more like 15. Nobody does this work on their own. It will be a group effort. Different people attacking it from different perspectives with different methodologies. I personally like the idea and probably have enough network experience to understand the challenge at hand.
All that might be true.
But if this data requires the level of security because it's vulnerable to being damaged and tanking the entire Plan because this data can prove in court that the election was stolen...
...then perhaps Lindell shouldn't be holding a contest with it. And should just, you know, put it into the court system.
If he's seriously holding what he says he's holding, then I want it in the places where it's going to make a difference. Now. Not serving as the centerpiece to some closed-door symposium challenge. Not being made available to any rando Lindell feels is worthy of messing around in the system to fact-check it.
well think of it from his perspective. He has 37TB of packet data....he got it from random dude that needs to remain anonymous as this person must have security clearance well beyond "going public with 37TB" Mike needs a way to verify the data without....."I paid some dude to make it show what i wanted". He is questioning himself at this point. He is doing it right. If he goes to court and it comes out then that he was had....well that would be a disaster.
And i don't think the data will be damaged. He won't just use the original copy. Court will be in due time....and i am worried about the security of people having this data off site. A lot of data can be pulled from a packet capture...that is where security can be an issue for the machines that got caught up in the capture.