Last couple of years were years of disillusions and disappointments for me. These are only two of them
Tim Pool As an ex-soviet-currently-european I knew literally nothing about american politics until January 2019, when I started to watch Tim Pool videos. I learned a lot and I though Tim was reasonable not because of his views but because he seemed to be ready to consider different options, change mind when applicable and was not stuck up. But as time progressed I realized how wrong I was about him. Slowly I got irritated more and more about what seemed to be hypocrisy but I didn't want to jump to conclusions. I was appalled about his coverage of the elections (how can someone who proclaims to be for free speech not be all about audits?) but the last drop came when I saw his tweet mocking Q people. I myself knew about Q and I did read about elites, corporations and I did hope for us all that they would come down, but I wasn't into drops etc. But I really hate it when someone kicks people who lost a battle. After his tweet I found this forum and I saw people actually taking the loss very well, trying to maintain composure and look into the future, which made me respect this community. I got even more angry at Tim, I was bitterly disappointed by that point, and I haven't watched one video of his since then. I watched exactly 2 minutes of his new vid today before I realized I was right in my decision not to listen to him anymore. I don't care about political views, I want to hear a reasonable person with integrity and Tim is not the one.
Jordan Peterson I came across a video clip from one of Jordan Peterson's lectures around the time when he spoke against bill c16. Since that moment I watched all of his lectures, some multiple times (especially the Bible ones) and he was a huge inspiration for me especially because he spoke about how people "allowed" nazis to do what they did and he mentioned the book "Ordinary Men". Thanks to him I've re-read Solzhenitsyn and Dostoevsky. Thanks to him I became tougher and when the fake pandemic/dictatorship was unraveling I thought frequently about what he used to say about people who would rather be guards than dissidents. I am still grateful to him for that and I intend to watch his Bible lectures again in the future. But when he came back after his illness, in his conversation with Brett Weinstein he praised vaccination rate in Israel. I could not believe my ears. Was it Jordan Peterson? Obviously, he could have been oblivious of what was going on but why would he talk about things he has no knowledge of? I watched more videos, and he never spoke against vaccine coercion, against the lies of media, nothing! The last straw was his rant about how he cries every time he thinks about people who never had any support from their parents, while he always had and still has that support. Being one of these people I thought - thank you, I guess?? I found it quite appalling, at that point it looked like attention seeking. He became just another "influencer" corrupted by money and popularity. I do realize that his sickness has affected him, but his lack of stand on the critical issues of elections and plandemic while he does speak on these issues was a blow in the face. Adding the fact that he taught us how to live our life while being on drugs, and then took some more drugs and some more, I realized I cannot trust him anymore. I'm currently dealing with my chronic depression while being drugs free after years of anti-depressants and self medicating with weed, I know that only when a person is sober he can take responsibility for his words. I allowed him to become sort of a father figure to me that my father could never be and that was a mistake. His ideas were good, but I learned never to put anyone on a pedestal no matter how small.
Thank you for reading this rant, frens.
What you need to learn and hopefully will soon is that all media, all people have bias and an agenda. Media especially does this: Imagine that the truth can be represented as a cow. Each media takes pieces of that cow that they like. They modify it, inject additives, and flavor it to their audience's liking - or to the liking of whoever is paying them. People who like this particular media's restaurant, eat it up. Digest it, then go online and shit it out.
You need to either be adventurous enough to find raw meat and decipher for yourself if it's a cow or a piece of shit if it's a truth or a lie. Or, when you watch the media, just be aware that they will always, only give you what they want to prepare and always add in a little extra.
That is a great analogy. Thanks
You are welcome
Yep. The questions might be,
"Why are you telling me this?" "How do you benefit from trying to convince me?" "What do you want me to do with this information?"
also take any proclamation of intent with a grain of salt. Words don't mean much, it's the actions that matter/
great analogy, and this is true.
Well, you've come to the right place. Many of us here have been on a similar journey in our lives. We may come to this place by different routes, but the motives are almost always driven by waking up to the realities of the world and how it works, which is mostly against the 99% of humanity.
thank you, I feel indeed that this is the right place
Post-disappearance Peterson is not the same person.
"Just get your damn vaccine" Peterson is not "government cannot compel my speech" Peterson.
12 rules for life Peterson is not Beyond Order Peterson.
yes! have you read his new book? I wasn't impressed by the first one, it was just the usual self help book filled with "mister N was in this situation and did this and that and now he's better" type of book. But I'm afraid the second one is worse.
I tried, I really did. Just couldn't get into it. Its on my cofvefe table right now, I've probably picked it up a dozen times.
I like 12 Rules (his third book i believe). Book was pretty good, but the audiobook pulled me in. "If you have something to say then silence is a lie" he had a lot of good points.
"covfefe table" hehe gonna use this term now! yes, true about 12 rules for life (actually his second book, he has 3). It had many good thoughts indeed. I guess I was watching too many of his lectures simultaneously so I remember it was less useful to me at that point. I also want to read his first book, Maps of Meaning, I only watched the lectures. Also,
Hi fren. This has been quite the roller coaster, no? After battling depression and self medicating for it, your brain might need a little support. Try adding 5-HTP to your daily supplements, along with DHEA and Pregnenalone. St. Johns Wort is a great mood stabilizer and comes in lighter daily doses (Happy Camper) or stronger for bad times (St. Johns Force). There is also a supplement called Lithium Orotate that's a life saver for those acute situations and stresses. Good luck and be well.
thank you, I'll look into these! I'm sober for almost 2 years now, it's been a freaking ride to hell and back and it still is especially with what is going on in the world. I'm really glad I've found this community of like minded people.
I've watched so much Tim Pool content over the years and I've seen him bend and sway with the times, and yes, he royally pissed me off after the election. Here's how I see Tim summed up in few words: He watches so much news, that even though he thinks the media is trash, he's still being influenced by them and doesn't even realize it. They say your character is shaped by the 5 people you spend the most time with. Well Tim's character was shaped around the fact that he spends all day looking at news to find something to complain about. He's buried in lies all day, and yes, even though he spends much of his time complaining about the lies, the subtle lies are still influencing him. And he's never once opened his mind to the outside of his bubble because he seems to have some strange fear of "conspiracy theories" lol.
So in Tim's reality, he still believes half the narrative, while calling the other half of the narrative idiotic, while thinking he's somehow one of the few smart ones, while never actually exposing himself to the truth. It's pretty sad actually.
yes yes exactly! I myself feel that when I watch too much of fear mongering (to know their narrative) I begin to feel them influencing me in a way. so I stop and "detox". There are so many bad things for the mind - ads are bad, mindless phone games are bad, tv is bad, too much news is bad - everyone should maintain a level of mind hygiene that allows keeping the head cool I suppose.
"too much news is bad" -- I fail at this point. I'm an addict, but only since the world's sanity mask slipped off and we all got a peak at the horrid creatures behind the it. I hope after all this crazy is over I can go back to crafts and other creative stuff...right now?...I can't muster the 'want to'.
I understand what you mean. I wish you strength. But if you feel you cannot take it anymore take a week off. I was on a brink of breaking and I took a month off and I haven't missed much. I'd say "God will guide you and bring you the important news" (if you religious) or "you will feel when you need to come back once your mind is silent" (if you are not religious)
I’ll also add that Jordan Peterson is a classic liberal. He’s brilliant but he got burnt out with his illness, m and his daughter feeding him only beef everyday and all that weirdness/exhaustion….
Sometimes he comes out on the wrong side of an issue but eventually makes it to the right side. Time will tell. Everyone makes mistakes, it just hurts worse when it’s people we admire.
yes, I hope indeed he gets better and looks back at his actions and words and talks about it. I'm just afraid that the fame and money got into his head (or maybe his daughter's head) - otherwise why repeated interviews with scumbag msm and then making video complaining how bad msm treating them only to go and do another promotion interview for his book, videos while he's still clearly not well also his twitter is literally becoming Obama style "best songs for this and that" type of feed. Also him being on drugs the whole time (before his illness) made me rethink everything he was saying. It's easy to talk about being strong when you are on antidepressants or speed or whatever he was on. I'd love him try to do the same sober.
2021 is the year of disappointment. ToreSays.com
Well said. I'd add Douglas Murray to the list of "disappointments" — even though all three still hold some appeal to me. Murray has two books out ("The Strange Death of Europe" and "The Madness of Crowds") which are well worth reading. He is at least as thoughtful as Jordan Peterson, but surprised me when he praised the "vaccine" in a conversation with Peterson early this year.
Tim Pool does a good job of picking stories that matter to people. He's no fan of Biden and I agree with the more libertarian aspects of his politics. I would also commend him for planting seeds of doubt about official diktat — e.g.: that Trump rallies spread the virus but Antifa protests magically do not; or that Antifa protests are "mostly peaceful." Yesterday, he was adamant that Dominion voting machines should never again be used in American elections. However, I feel that he tries too hard to be unpredictable. He regularly brings his viewers to the precipice, then retreats.
Pool freely admits to being alienated by the "Progressive" movement. Having planted that flag, he then frequently retreats, perhaps in an attempt to seem reasonable (or, at least, less decipherable).
Indeed, one of the reasons people watch and/ or read these three is that they're **not shrill — admittedly an easier task for Douglas, as he's British and inherently low key.
The low-key approach may not be popular in these parts, but many people ("normies?") need to be able to discuss the contradictions they're seeing in less fiercely committed ways. In my opinion, these three gentlemen have done a solid job of offering that... even when they have been disappointing.
while agreeing with you about Tim Pool (this is why I was watching his videos) and maybe I'm too critical at this time of my development, but I cannot stick by people who proclaim one thing when the sun is shining but not follow through when the storm hits. I didn't know about Douglas Murray, but I will give him a listen when I stop being angry about human inconsistency