The most honest answer is no one knows. They claim they can identify Covid 19.in a lab setting but so far no lab has been able to do it. Not one single.lab on earth, and many have tried, have been able to sequence anything more than the first handful of strands of dna from a completely unknown genetic sequence. The rest is a sequence they plug in themselves in the lab as a SWAG that they know what they are lookong at.
When they claim to be checkong antobodies they are checking against THEIR custom DNA strand. Which again, has never in a lab been able to be identified.
People that think that "Well Chyna must have if they were tinkering with it" need FIRST explain how that is possible considering 1. Chyna never shared their research or origin tracing. and 2. All viruses are 98% made up DNA.
In short, they really cannot. Its all BS and there is ZERO scientific evidence to support even the possibility for that to happen with any level of certainty.
Yes, thank you that puts it together. I have understood that Pick N Save pharmacies are offering an anti body test but I don't know if it could even be valid.
Would any results be useful or not? Doesn't really seem so, unless you buy into everything that has been "pushed" about the whole plandemic.
The test that is admittedly 50% accurate. I have a copper penny just as accurate. They explain it away by saying its the the "quality" of the test, but the "quantity" of testing. That means if my trusty copper penny is flipped several times, some how my chances are better?
Its genome has certainly been sequenced. They’re testing for certain small segments of genetic material from its genome when they do PCR tests. The antibody tests look for markers in human antibodies which correspond to the antibodies produced to the spike protein, or any of the other antigenic proteins from the virus. You would think that the Chinese certainly isolated the virus when they were tinkering with it in Wuhan...
Virologists claim the full genome sequence for COVID-19 should be 30,000 nucleotide base pairs long. But how would they know when they have never isolated a full genomic organism to do this? There is no virus that has been isolated and purified. So there cannot be a 30,000 nucleotide base pair to determine.
It's made up!
How can I state this? They use a PCR Test that does not look for COVID-19 (because it can't), but rather looks for broken down fragment primer genetic sequences of 18 to 300 base pair long out of 30,000 base pairs that is found in nearly everything like for example, 90 known genetic sequences and 92 known animal and bacterial genetic sequences. This is why we see papaya, kiwis, goats, coca-cola, motor oil, apple juice, blueberries and even tap water testing positive for COVID-19.
Since the virus is not isolated and purified, virologists have to invent a full genome in a computer. This is called a -- 'In Silico' genome. 'In Silico' means a computer simulation or in virtual reality. In other words, it is fabricated; fictional; or simply imaginary.
Virologists took a sputum sample from a sick individual in Wuhan hospital with atypical pneumonia and built an In Silico COVID-19 virus genome in the lab computer using a 'BLAST N' tool and mixing this with previous In Silico imaginary computer generated genetic sequences of SARS (Wuhan-Hu-1 virus) and the bat Corona Virus RaTG-13. Then they invoked the computer to rearrange the sputum chemically deluded elixir sample of the Wuhan pneumonia infected individual until it matched the new SARS-2 sequence their computer made-up.
If one wanted to, they could ask the BLAST N tool to put in the genetic sequence of a banana and the computer would rearrange anybody's genetic sputum chemical elixir fragments until they matched a full banana genome.
Since no one has the same exact genetic fragments found in their sputum, every time this is entered into the computer to rearrange someone's sputum sample, in the In Silico COVID-19 genome template, the computer will have to calculate it slightly differently than the original Wuhan individual's sputum sample. The computer produces errors and is a continuous and perpetual program 'glitch'. The algorithm is programmed to fill in the blanks along the way. However, this 'glitich' is called a 'virus mutation' or variant.
Now you know the matrix we actually live in. The COVID-19 virus is a computer generated fiction. There is 'something' else that is real disease. The COVID-19 virus is nothing more than the symptoms of 'something' that is causing the illness.
Maybe. There are a lot of variables at play. The antibody tests themselves are far from perfect- some may be cheap Chinese tests with low sensitivity/specificity. Other tests may be better but still imperfect.
One of the big issues is the difficulty in detecting small amounts of antibodies. Most of the tests currently look for IgG in the blood. Just because the test isn’t sensitive enough to detect it doesn’t mean it isn’t there, or that there aren’t some memory B cells in the lymphatic tissues which still “remember” the disease.
As far as I know, few or none of the tests look for IgA in the nasal mucosal tissues. I could be wrong, but I haven’t seen any.
So you may have some success but it’s certainly not a guarantee, depending on the test, how persistent your antibody signal is, and how long ago you had it.
Looking for pcs of the 30 base pairs of the genome is not effective, The FDA website clearly states the PCR test was based off of a Flu sample not covid 19. Thus no flu deaths in over a year, all covid. it is a shell game, if they release the full 300 base pair genome the gig is up and every scientist worth their salt can tell you it was not only man made but patented years ago.
I've asked the OP's question before and the only links provided were from the nih.....ya know, the people who funded the gain of function...If you know of another isolation, I would like to see it so I can include it every other day when this topic respawns.
The PCR test were waaayy over cycled meaning it would detect that fart you smelled from your grandad last holiday season. Oh and the CDC has already put out weeks ago that the PCR test can't tell the difference from covid and the flu.
Shall we dig up the comments of Kary Mullis (inventor of the test)?
Who is actually taking the time to do true antibody testing? That would destroy so many narratives...
I have no idea, all I know is that when Son(who lives in WA) had to go to ER for the second time (first time they gave him Steroids and an anti viral cocktail and sent him home the next day) but a few days later had developed v-Pneumonia while fighting covid, his oxy and BP kept dipping out, they had given him "antibody infusion" and sent him home the next morning having stabilized and is still recovering a week later but, getting much better.
I’d sure love some population-level antibody testing. I’ve seen a couple of studies where it’s been done, but we need a whole lot more. I think that could provide a final nail in the coffin for this lockdown BS
It isn't the Flu. That dropped very low. Maybe they weren't testing for the flu during that time though. I feel like if I were to expect loads of people with a separate disease than the one that already causes strain on the health care industry I would want to know who had which, or if any had both.... Ya know?
An antibody test is not the same thing as a PCR test.
Antibodies are cells that your own immune system generated in response to an infection and purposed to eliminate or neutralize the infection.
Antibodies do not generally contain in their structures components of the virus or infection (unless you are looking at a macrophage that has absorbed a bacteria cell or viral infected cells or virus proteins).
So to test for antibodies, you would get a blood draw and they would likely be looking for an unusual antibody that is generally detected in those recovered from a particular illness vs those who have not had the illness.
For covid19, the antibody test is likely looking for the type of antibodies that the body produces when exposed to either the spike protiens, or to a typical coronavirus / sars-cov1 infection antibody type.
The PCR test is literally looking for evidence of the viral infection (dna/ rna) by basically running multiplying cycles against all DNA/RNA that exists in the biological material retrieved from a nasal swab or a spit specimen. The multiplying factor for PCR is determined by how many "cycles" the test sample is put through.
After about 30 cycles, the test is generally useless as it will amplify things so much that you can likely find a positive result for any thing you are checking for. This really has to do with a 30 plus cycle run causing the noise values in the analysis to overwhelm any actual signal value which thus gives many false positives.
It is thus important to understand the significance of the CDC specifying that the non vaccinated be tested by PCR at 40 cycles. Now you can understand why the PCR test in its current use --whether they isolated the virus to calibrate it or not-- is completely useless given their test parameters.
Bottom line, antibody tests when carried out in a scientifically and medically useful way (because in clown world today, I can't be sure they haven't monkeyed with the antibody testing too) are a good diagnostic to show you had something and possibly to identify what that something is. PCR tests are being used currently to tell if people have an active Covid-19 infection. The actual usefulness of the PCR diagnostic is dubious in the best of times, but especially for the situation we are in, the PCR testing is intentionally broken and useless to push high infection rates as a narrative.
Yes, thank you. I wasn't asking about the PCR. I am already familiar with all of that fraudulent use! Perhaps others will need to read your very good summary.
I think you are correct that the closest thing an antibody test could be looking for is something related to the response to a typical coronavirus. This is the info I was looking for.
For covid19, the antibody test is likely looking for the type of antibodies that the body produces when exposed to either the spike protiens, or to a typical coronavirus / sars-cov1 infection antibody type.
I share your concern about how "medically useful" ways these procedures are being carried out today. Actually I'm relieved to no longer be among those in the medical professions!
I haven't had a flu shot in decades...just once many years ago while I was working in one hospital... and can't say that I have had the REAL flu but perhaps once... and it would be long ago, so I don't know if that would be reflected. Probably not.
Nobody in an official capacity has been able to show me proof that covid-19 is real. They cannot tell me what masks will stop the transmission of covid-19 either.
It is all a scam. Maybe there is or was a real virus before, but it seems like a scam now.
Do you think Trump lied about them making this in a lab in Wuhan?
Seems much more likely that there is a real disease, the Chinese and fauci made it via gain-of-function research, and then the cabal used it as a hammer to take away our rights and institute country-wide mail in voting to get away with stealing the election.
Big pharma is making money off of the vaccines and suppressing cheap treatments like ivermectin to keep us dependent on vaccines and boosters.
This satisfies ol’ Occam’s Razor a whole lot better in my view than the theory that they completely fabricated a disease. That said, I’ve no doubt that they’ve blown it massively out of proportion.
The most honest answer is no one knows. They claim they can identify Covid 19.in a lab setting but so far no lab has been able to do it. Not one single.lab on earth, and many have tried, have been able to sequence anything more than the first handful of strands of dna from a completely unknown genetic sequence. The rest is a sequence they plug in themselves in the lab as a SWAG that they know what they are lookong at.
When they claim to be checkong antobodies they are checking against THEIR custom DNA strand. Which again, has never in a lab been able to be identified.
People that think that "Well Chyna must have if they were tinkering with it" need FIRST explain how that is possible considering 1. Chyna never shared their research or origin tracing. and 2. All viruses are 98% made up DNA.
In short, they really cannot. Its all BS and there is ZERO scientific evidence to support even the possibility for that to happen with any level of certainty.
Yes, thank you that puts it together. I have understood that Pick N Save pharmacies are offering an anti body test but I don't know if it could even be valid. Would any results be useful or not? Doesn't really seem so, unless you buy into everything that has been "pushed" about the whole plandemic.
If you are considering taking even one PCR test you need to know what it in it too.
I believe it was ethelyne oxide....which is highly poisonous.
So, if you are that worried and want to be safe, stock.up on HCQ and Ivermectin.
It wouldnt hurt to up your vitamin D and zinc as well
Is the 'antibody' test, the antigen test?
The test that is admittedly 50% accurate. I have a copper penny just as accurate. They explain it away by saying its the the "quality" of the test, but the "quantity" of testing. That means if my trusty copper penny is flipped several times, some how my chances are better?
These people are stupid.
I was wondering same thing lol
Its genome has certainly been sequenced. They’re testing for certain small segments of genetic material from its genome when they do PCR tests. The antibody tests look for markers in human antibodies which correspond to the antibodies produced to the spike protein, or any of the other antigenic proteins from the virus. You would think that the Chinese certainly isolated the virus when they were tinkering with it in Wuhan...
Virologists claim the full genome sequence for COVID-19 should be 30,000 nucleotide base pairs long. But how would they know when they have never isolated a full genomic organism to do this? There is no virus that has been isolated and purified. So there cannot be a 30,000 nucleotide base pair to determine.
It's made up!
How can I state this? They use a PCR Test that does not look for COVID-19 (because it can't), but rather looks for broken down fragment primer genetic sequences of 18 to 300 base pair long out of 30,000 base pairs that is found in nearly everything like for example, 90 known genetic sequences and 92 known animal and bacterial genetic sequences. This is why we see papaya, kiwis, goats, coca-cola, motor oil, apple juice, blueberries and even tap water testing positive for COVID-19.
Since the virus is not isolated and purified, virologists have to invent a full genome in a computer. This is called a -- 'In Silico' genome. 'In Silico' means a computer simulation or in virtual reality. In other words, it is fabricated; fictional; or simply imaginary.
Virologists took a sputum sample from a sick individual in Wuhan hospital with atypical pneumonia and built an In Silico COVID-19 virus genome in the lab computer using a 'BLAST N' tool and mixing this with previous In Silico imaginary computer generated genetic sequences of SARS (Wuhan-Hu-1 virus) and the bat Corona Virus RaTG-13. Then they invoked the computer to rearrange the sputum chemically deluded elixir sample of the Wuhan pneumonia infected individual until it matched the new SARS-2 sequence their computer made-up.
If one wanted to, they could ask the BLAST N tool to put in the genetic sequence of a banana and the computer would rearrange anybody's genetic sputum chemical elixir fragments until they matched a full banana genome.
Since no one has the same exact genetic fragments found in their sputum, every time this is entered into the computer to rearrange someone's sputum sample, in the In Silico COVID-19 genome template, the computer will have to calculate it slightly differently than the original Wuhan individual's sputum sample. The computer produces errors and is a continuous and perpetual program 'glitch'. The algorithm is programmed to fill in the blanks along the way. However, this 'glitich' is called a 'virus mutation' or variant.
Now you know the matrix we actually live in. The COVID-19 virus is a computer generated fiction. There is 'something' else that is real disease. The COVID-19 virus is nothing more than the symptoms of 'something' that is causing the illness.
Thank you, that sounds knowledgeable.
The PCR tests were not intended to be diagnostic as we have understood from the inventor.
If one hasn't had the vax, but wants to confirm/refute that they have had covid, would looking for this marker be effective?
Maybe. There are a lot of variables at play. The antibody tests themselves are far from perfect- some may be cheap Chinese tests with low sensitivity/specificity. Other tests may be better but still imperfect. One of the big issues is the difficulty in detecting small amounts of antibodies. Most of the tests currently look for IgG in the blood. Just because the test isn’t sensitive enough to detect it doesn’t mean it isn’t there, or that there aren’t some memory B cells in the lymphatic tissues which still “remember” the disease. As far as I know, few or none of the tests look for IgA in the nasal mucosal tissues. I could be wrong, but I haven’t seen any. So you may have some success but it’s certainly not a guarantee, depending on the test, how persistent your antibody signal is, and how long ago you had it.
Looking for pcs of the 30 base pairs of the genome is not effective, The FDA website clearly states the PCR test was based off of a Flu sample not covid 19. Thus no flu deaths in over a year, all covid. it is a shell game, if they release the full 300 base pair genome the gig is up and every scientist worth their salt can tell you it was not only man made but patented years ago.
I've asked the OP's question before and the only links provided were from the nih.....ya know, the people who funded the gain of function...If you know of another isolation, I would like to see it so I can include it every other day when this topic respawns.
The PCR test were waaayy over cycled meaning it would detect that fart you smelled from your grandad last holiday season. Oh and the CDC has already put out weeks ago that the PCR test can't tell the difference from covid and the flu.
Shall we dig up the comments of Kary Mullis (inventor of the test)?
Who is actually taking the time to do true antibody testing? That would destroy so many narratives...
I have no idea, all I know is that when Son(who lives in WA) had to go to ER for the second time (first time they gave him Steroids and an anti viral cocktail and sent him home the next day) but a few days later had developed v-Pneumonia while fighting covid, his oxy and BP kept dipping out, they had given him "antibody infusion" and sent him home the next morning having stabilized and is still recovering a week later but, getting much better.
I’d sure love some population-level antibody testing. I’ve seen a couple of studies where it’s been done, but we need a whole lot more. I think that could provide a final nail in the coffin for this lockdown BS
Agreed. The fact that we haven't seen more of it is extremely damning of our local medical practitioners. They know.
It isn't the Flu. That dropped very low. Maybe they weren't testing for the flu during that time though. I feel like if I were to expect loads of people with a separate disease than the one that already causes strain on the health care industry I would want to know who had which, or if any had both.... Ya know?
An antibody test is not the same thing as a PCR test.
Antibodies are cells that your own immune system generated in response to an infection and purposed to eliminate or neutralize the infection.
Antibodies do not generally contain in their structures components of the virus or infection (unless you are looking at a macrophage that has absorbed a bacteria cell or viral infected cells or virus proteins).
So to test for antibodies, you would get a blood draw and they would likely be looking for an unusual antibody that is generally detected in those recovered from a particular illness vs those who have not had the illness.
For covid19, the antibody test is likely looking for the type of antibodies that the body produces when exposed to either the spike protiens, or to a typical coronavirus / sars-cov1 infection antibody type.
The PCR test is literally looking for evidence of the viral infection (dna/ rna) by basically running multiplying cycles against all DNA/RNA that exists in the biological material retrieved from a nasal swab or a spit specimen. The multiplying factor for PCR is determined by how many "cycles" the test sample is put through.
After about 30 cycles, the test is generally useless as it will amplify things so much that you can likely find a positive result for any thing you are checking for. This really has to do with a 30 plus cycle run causing the noise values in the analysis to overwhelm any actual signal value which thus gives many false positives.
It is thus important to understand the significance of the CDC specifying that the non vaccinated be tested by PCR at 40 cycles. Now you can understand why the PCR test in its current use --whether they isolated the virus to calibrate it or not-- is completely useless given their test parameters.
Bottom line, antibody tests when carried out in a scientifically and medically useful way (because in clown world today, I can't be sure they haven't monkeyed with the antibody testing too) are a good diagnostic to show you had something and possibly to identify what that something is. PCR tests are being used currently to tell if people have an active Covid-19 infection. The actual usefulness of the PCR diagnostic is dubious in the best of times, but especially for the situation we are in, the PCR testing is intentionally broken and useless to push high infection rates as a narrative.
Yes, thank you. I wasn't asking about the PCR. I am already familiar with all of that fraudulent use! Perhaps others will need to read your very good summary.
I think you are correct that the closest thing an antibody test could be looking for is something related to the response to a typical coronavirus. This is the info I was looking for.
I share your concern about how "medically useful" ways these procedures are being carried out today. Actually I'm relieved to no longer be among those in the medical professions!
I haven't had a flu shot in decades...just once many years ago while I was working in one hospital... and can't say that I have had the REAL flu but perhaps once... and it would be long ago, so I don't know if that would be reflected. Probably not.
Good info. The PCR cannot diagnose infection according to the Dr. Mullens, the inventor and Nobel Prize winner for the PCR.
Nobody in an official capacity has been able to show me proof that covid-19 is real. They cannot tell me what masks will stop the transmission of covid-19 either.
It is all a scam. Maybe there is or was a real virus before, but it seems like a scam now.
Do you think Trump lied about them making this in a lab in Wuhan? Seems much more likely that there is a real disease, the Chinese and fauci made it via gain-of-function research, and then the cabal used it as a hammer to take away our rights and institute country-wide mail in voting to get away with stealing the election. Big pharma is making money off of the vaccines and suppressing cheap treatments like ivermectin to keep us dependent on vaccines and boosters. This satisfies ol’ Occam’s Razor a whole lot better in my view than the theory that they completely fabricated a disease. That said, I’ve no doubt that they’ve blown it massively out of proportion.
Likely none, I doubt they've ever done hard work of any kind.