I’m sure it will be made public, that people that said awful things like that are known to all. It’s printed and saved in black and white. Q said, they will not be able to walk down the street. They wished you dead, you don’t need to return the evil, but you can ignore them, and treat them like they are already dead and gone, if you wish. But keep this in mind, as Christ did, you can forgive them for they know not what they do. You don’t have to socialize with them, and you don’t have to like or talk to them. But you can choose, choose by free will to forgive their foolishness. And let them live with their own foolishness alone to the end of their days.
Colossians 3:13 Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.
Don't let their foolishness take away the peace in your heart. I know easier said than done. But, this is one of the lessons as Christians we need to learn. Forgive those that do not deserve it, just as Jesus did for us.
Who was the audience and who was he asking patience for?
That's right, fellow Christian who had formerly committed all sorts of sins but had come to Christ through repentance.
You cannot forgive your enemy while you are in battle for survival. Only when they have laid down their arms and beg for mercy do you have the option of forgiving them.
Hmm I see your point, but let me ask you this. On the cross, Jesus cried out for the Lord to forgive them because they do no know what they do. So even when they were actively killing Him, He still asked for forgiveness. Now, I don't know if they were actually forgiven, but the ultimate decision isn't up to us, it's up to God. So while they may not repent to us on earth, we can still ask God to forgive them. But I agree, it's only when they beg for mercy in front of Him will it be granted. So we can rebuke them, but not condemn. Forgiving them when they don't repent is more of a benefit for us.
Romans 13:4 - For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil
Psalm 37:38 - But transgressors will be altogether destroyed;
The posterity of the wicked will be cut off.
Philippians 3:19 - whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things.
Peter 2:12 - But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed,
Yesterday I was getting in my car and came face to face (sorta) with a masked (self proclaimed) Christian with a huge T-shirt boasting "BLESSED" with a huge Praying Hands Pic, so I smiled widely and raised both hands to heaven saying "Praise the Lord! I'm blessed, too!" Dead silence. Stare. Slowly shakes head, then walks past me. I was dumbfounded.
I’m sure it will be made public, that people that said awful things like that are known to all. It’s printed and saved in black and white. Q said, they will not be able to walk down the street. They wished you dead, you don’t need to return the evil, but you can ignore them, and treat them like they are already dead and gone, if you wish. But keep this in mind, as Christ did, you can forgive them for they know not what they do. You don’t have to socialize with them, and you don’t have to like or talk to them. But you can choose, choose by free will to forgive their foolishness. And let them live with their own foolishness alone to the end of their days.
[Jhn 14:6 KJV] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Colossians 3:13 Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.
Don't let their foolishness take away the peace in your heart. I know easier said than done. But, this is one of the lessons as Christians we need to learn. Forgive those that do not deserve it, just as Jesus did for us.
He didn't forgive the money changers. Was pretty clear men should buy a sword.
Ghandi preached passivity, not Jesus.
True, but when Peter used the sword Jesus told him "no more of this". The sword fulfills a prophesy.
I don't know about that.
Who was the audience and who was he asking patience for?
That's right, fellow Christian who had formerly committed all sorts of sins but had come to Christ through repentance.
You cannot forgive your enemy while you are in battle for survival. Only when they have laid down their arms and beg for mercy do you have the option of forgiving them.
Hmm I see your point, but let me ask you this. On the cross, Jesus cried out for the Lord to forgive them because they do no know what they do. So even when they were actively killing Him, He still asked for forgiveness. Now, I don't know if they were actually forgiven, but the ultimate decision isn't up to us, it's up to God. So while they may not repent to us on earth, we can still ask God to forgive them. But I agree, it's only when they beg for mercy in front of Him will it be granted. So we can rebuke them, but not condemn. Forgiving them when they don't repent is more of a benefit for us.
BS. Serve them justice.
If the justice comes from God, I'm on board.
Romans 13:4 - For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil
Psalm 37:38 - But transgressors will be altogether destroyed; The posterity of the wicked will be cut off.
Philippians 3:19 - whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things.
Peter 2:12 - But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed,
I don't fully understand what you are trying to say. Can you put it in your own words so that I don't assume with my response?
I think it's pretty obvious.
Yesterday I was getting in my car and came face to face (sorta) with a masked (self proclaimed) Christian with a huge T-shirt boasting "BLESSED" with a huge Praying Hands Pic, so I smiled widely and raised both hands to heaven saying "Praise the Lord! I'm blessed, too!" Dead silence. Stare. Slowly shakes head, then walks past me. I was dumbfounded.
Hahaha what? I'm dumbfounded by your story too lol. That's exactly what I would have done too.
Yes, forgiveness doesn't have to mean reconciliation.
I've already forgiven them all, even Obama and Hillary.
God may forgive them but I will not.
He probably won't. Christians and children are the primary targets.
It is super difficult to forgive those who are still commiting crimes against humanity [ no repentance]