No wake vortices - no airplanes. You can’t have one without the other and they would have been very clearly defined in the smoke.
An aircraft is not a bunker busting bomb. They are made light and designed to withstand aerodynamic stresses. They are held together with rivets, ribs, stringers and thin aluminum that is naturally brittle.
Two different aircraft fly into two different buildings create the exact same damage pattern? What are the chances.
Fire, so hot that it weakened steel yet it failed to push the smoke up. Instead, smoke rose slightly higher than the buildings themselves.
A whole lot of bullshit rammed down our throats time and time again
This view of WTC towers 1 (right) and 2 (left) are from the east. The plane that hit tower 2 hit it on the south side so in the video the plane should be coming from the left to right. No plane means it was edited out of this video or a plane was edited in on 9/11. https://vimeo.com/519877745
If you think you saw an airplane hit the 2nd tower:
Unless you were present, you watched it on a screen. And if you were present, you weren't watching the 2nd tower until it got hit.
NONE of the MSM caught the 2nd tower getting hit. Think about it for 2 seconds. Why would anyone have a camera on the 2nd tower at that moment? What just happened at tower #1 again?
ALL the footage released from tower hit #2 was what is called ' user submitted' Just randos submitting to news networks. With all the cell phones, which yes, were in abundant in 2001, why do we only have a few clips of tower hit #2? Why isn't there thousands of clips / viewpoints?
Now, go back and watch all the 2nd tower hit footage. Not once, ever, do you even hear one person say "here comes another one". There is only a crowd reaction once the explosion happens.
If you say you were there and claim to see the 2nd tower hit, I am sorry, bu I don't believe you.
First cell phone with a camera in the US was in November of 2002. It took crappy photos and no video. There were no camera phones there. That's why there aren't thousands of clips. Are you like 20 years old?
I saw the second tower hit on TV. Both towers were in the camera view. Katie Couric said something really lame about what a terrible coincidence to have two planes accidentally hit the towers on the same day. She was too stupid to think of it being an attack, whether real or not.
I was watching TV at work. After the first tower was hit, someone moved one of our presentation TV/VCR carts to the break room and turned it on. I happened to be in there when the second tower was hit.
I was at the airport watching the monitor when this happened. Saw the second plane fly into the building.
Of course my flight was cancelled, so I went back to the office. Got online, and on my favorite hobby site lounge. Regulars on the site from in NYC and DC were posting pictures and eyewitness accounts. We had people from all over the world on that site.
Plenty of people saw what happened, as it happened.
Along the same vein - Who were the Israelis who where in the building installing stuff? Sorry I can’t remember just now what they claimed they were installing. Wiring for a security system possibly? I just can’t remember.
I knew something was up with this on day one, well day 2 actually....not in NY but in PA. I lived about 1.5 hours from the site so we jumped on the bikes and rode down there (went to the Johnstown PA area often for bike events and some beautiful riding) ....
We rode right up to the site....noone there, a small area was indented but nothing like a plane went down....very little disturbance. While we were there several black cars rolled in and told us to leave (we kinda snuck in through back roads) ....there were 5 of us who went and not a one of us saw ground damage severe enough that a plane would have caused. It was really strange. I have pictures of it. I always had a camera in my bike. Gonna look for them but I have several boxes full of pics over my life.
Went back a week or so later and it was all closed off...every road within a mile had military posted....a few weeks after that they put up a tent about a quarter mile away that you could walk through, had logs of events in books from the flight conversations (got pics of those too) lots was redacted but I read every one of them...something stunk about it all....still does. Went back a few weeks after that and they moved the tent further away and the log books were gone.
I will never forget the sickening feeling when I got there and realized there was no way this was what they said it was. NO WAY a plane went down there, the area (grass, trees) should have been torn up but wasn't.
Planes did not fly into the buildings. There is no way they would put all that effort into planning 9/11 and have it depend on whether or not they can successfully fly to planes into two buildings. What would have happened if they missed? How are they brought the buildings down? The only way they could guarantee it was by having it computer generated and make people believe planes hit the buildings. Anyone who claims they saw it hit the buildings with their own eyes is lying through their fucking teeth. A jet plane does not fucking crash through a building and have its wingtips cut through 15 inches of fucking structural steel like it's made out of butter. Each floor was an acre worth of area with steel columns on the outside every 3 ft. If you took 100 steel I beams accelerated them to 500 miles an hour to impact the stationary plane nobody in the right mind would say that all the steel beams would be cut. From a physics standpoint it makes no difference if the high beams are moving 500 miles an hour or the planes moving 500 miles an hour there's no way a plane can cut through all that steel from wingtip to wingtip and then go through six floors. That's over 6 acres of steel and concrete weighing 3,200,000 pounds per floor.
The opposite side would be the west side of tower 2. The aircraft hit tower 2 on its south side which is the left side from the perspective of the camera.
from sauce: "They never thought people who filmed the attacks on 9/11 with their JVC handycam would post it to social media years later."
I know this would be easy to edit out the planes but i have never seen this angle before, if anyone has this clip with the planes in it deebonk me pls.
I’ve never seen a non-jet view ever. I watched the planes hit live on the news. And then spent the next 2 days in front of the TV screen in horror. I will never forget. So yes, it’s gotta be from the other side.
Im sorry. I was at work when it happened and watch the second tower get hit live. I had just heard on the news a plane had hit the first tower. Then the crash in Shanksville happened. All of the televisions came on then and we watched the towers fall in real time. I don’t believe bombs were involved unless those bombs were actually on those planes. But if others believe the bomb theory, doesn’t bother me.
No wake vortices - no airplanes. You can’t have one without the other and they would have been very clearly defined in the smoke.
An aircraft is not a bunker busting bomb. They are made light and designed to withstand aerodynamic stresses. They are held together with rivets, ribs, stringers and thin aluminum that is naturally brittle.
Two different aircraft fly into two different buildings create the exact same damage pattern? What are the chances.
Fire, so hot that it weakened steel yet it failed to push the smoke up. Instead, smoke rose slightly higher than the buildings themselves.
A whole lot of bullshit rammed down our throats time and time again
It's from other side of the impact possibly
This view of WTC towers 1 (right) and 2 (left) are from the east. The plane that hit tower 2 hit it on the south side so in the video the plane should be coming from the left to right. No plane means it was edited out of this video or a plane was edited in on 9/11. https://vimeo.com/519877745
If you think you saw an airplane hit the 2nd tower:
Now, go back and watch all the 2nd tower hit footage. Not once, ever, do you even hear one person say "here comes another one". There is only a crowd reaction once the explosion happens.
If you say you were there and claim to see the 2nd tower hit, I am sorry, bu I don't believe you.
P.S. Operation Northwwoods
First cell phone with a camera in the US was in November of 2002. It took crappy photos and no video. There were no camera phones there. That's why there aren't thousands of clips. Are you like 20 years old?
I saw the second tower hit on TV. Both towers were in the camera view. Katie Couric said something really lame about what a terrible coincidence to have two planes accidentally hit the towers on the same day. She was too stupid to think of it being an attack, whether real or not.
I was watching TV at work. After the first tower was hit, someone moved one of our presentation TV/VCR carts to the break room and turned it on. I happened to be in there when the second tower was hit.
I was at the airport watching the monitor when this happened. Saw the second plane fly into the building.
Of course my flight was cancelled, so I went back to the office. Got online, and on my favorite hobby site lounge. Regulars on the site from in NYC and DC were posting pictures and eyewitness accounts. We had people from all over the world on that site.
Plenty of people saw what happened, as it happened.
Thanks boss
I have heard of this previously but haven’t researched into it but I just want to throw this out there—
What happens to an aluminum bodied airplane when it encounters a bird in the air? Considerable damage.
It has been argued that it would have been impossible for these planes to have gone through these buildings as they say they have.
Along the same vein - Who were the Israelis who where in the building installing stuff? Sorry I can’t remember just now what they claimed they were installing. Wiring for a security system possibly? I just can’t remember.
I knew something was up with this on day one, well day 2 actually....not in NY but in PA. I lived about 1.5 hours from the site so we jumped on the bikes and rode down there (went to the Johnstown PA area often for bike events and some beautiful riding) ....
We rode right up to the site....noone there, a small area was indented but nothing like a plane went down....very little disturbance. While we were there several black cars rolled in and told us to leave (we kinda snuck in through back roads) ....there were 5 of us who went and not a one of us saw ground damage severe enough that a plane would have caused. It was really strange. I have pictures of it. I always had a camera in my bike. Gonna look for them but I have several boxes full of pics over my life.
Went back a week or so later and it was all closed off...every road within a mile had military posted....a few weeks after that they put up a tent about a quarter mile away that you could walk through, had logs of events in books from the flight conversations (got pics of those too) lots was redacted but I read every one of them...something stunk about it all....still does. Went back a few weeks after that and they moved the tent further away and the log books were gone.
I will never forget the sickening feeling when I got there and realized there was no way this was what they said it was. NO WAY a plane went down there, the area (grass, trees) should have been torn up but wasn't.
Gotta find those pics....
Blessings for those who died for a lie...
There were no planes.
Planes did not fly into the buildings. There is no way they would put all that effort into planning 9/11 and have it depend on whether or not they can successfully fly to planes into two buildings. What would have happened if they missed? How are they brought the buildings down? The only way they could guarantee it was by having it computer generated and make people believe planes hit the buildings. Anyone who claims they saw it hit the buildings with their own eyes is lying through their fucking teeth. A jet plane does not fucking crash through a building and have its wingtips cut through 15 inches of fucking structural steel like it's made out of butter. Each floor was an acre worth of area with steel columns on the outside every 3 ft. If you took 100 steel I beams accelerated them to 500 miles an hour to impact the stationary plane nobody in the right mind would say that all the steel beams would be cut. From a physics standpoint it makes no difference if the high beams are moving 500 miles an hour or the planes moving 500 miles an hour there's no way a plane can cut through all that steel from wingtip to wingtip and then go through six floors. That's over 6 acres of steel and concrete weighing 3,200,000 pounds per floor.
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DEEEEBOOOONKED
The opposite side would be the west side of tower 2. The aircraft hit tower 2 on its south side which is the left side from the perspective of the camera.
No, the fact that you don't understand makes you ridiculous.
d.e.w.
from sauce: "They never thought people who filmed the attacks on 9/11 with their JVC handycam would post it to social media years later."
I know this would be easy to edit out the planes but i have never seen this angle before, if anyone has this clip with the planes in it deebonk me pls.
1:15 of this video shows a different angle with a plane coming in.
Reconcile the two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YLm3pkAiJQ
I could have edited out the plane from that, almost perfectly, in 3 minutes.
samsies
I’ve never seen a non-jet view ever. I watched the planes hit live on the news. And then spent the next 2 days in front of the TV screen in horror. I will never forget. So yes, it’s gotta be from the other side.
And using each other’s eye balls and video cameras?
Im sorry. I was at work when it happened and watch the second tower get hit live. I had just heard on the news a plane had hit the first tower. Then the crash in Shanksville happened. All of the televisions came on then and we watched the towers fall in real time. I don’t believe bombs were involved unless those bombs were actually on those planes. But if others believe the bomb theory, doesn’t bother me.
How do you know the live feeds weren't edited though xD
Sorry. I just don’t want to argue with anyone about this.
bombs were going off in the basement after they raided the vaults