Ok, so just as an introduction, I am an amateur airplane accident investigator. I have spent thousands of hours since 2009 reading FAA reports, reading black box transcripts, listening to black box recordings, looking at a flight data recorder (FDR) data, watching videos, listening to depositions, talking to pilots... etc in order to find out why planes crash.
Colgan Air 3407 was not crashed by the government. It absolutely 100% wasn't. I know it seems like a crazy series of events that are related, but I can assure you that they're not in this case.
The real tragedy here is that Captain Renslow should have never been in any airplane, much less that airplane on that night. He was a failure of a pilot and should have had his flight status revoked years before the accident. In addition, his first officer, Captain Shaw, was very sick and her illness was distracting her from her flight duties.
Also, they both ignored multiple, and I mean multiple, FAA safety recommendations such as having non-flight related discussions below 10,000 feet to not turning on the de-icing equipment even though they were flying through icing conditions.
When the icing occurred on the leading edges of the flight surfaces, the plane entered an aerodynamic stall. The worst part about this stall is that Captain Renslow had failed to recover a plane from exactly this scenario in flight simulators on several occasions and was still allowed to, not only keep his flight status, but to remain a captain. In addition to this, FO Shaw also reacted incorrectly and retracted the flaps which made the aircraft even more aerodynamically unstable.
I work in a very unique position, have a high security clearance level and access to data that most people cannot see. I've heard the audio on the black box recording that has never been released to the public. It's not something you want to hear. It's horrifying and entirely consistent with an accident.
It's an unfortunate event that Beverly Eckert was on that particular flight, but I can assure you with 100% confidence after studying this aircraft incident for hundreds of hours that it's not a conspiracy.
No kidding ..sounds to me like those two pilots kept there license because DS knew they could use them someday to man the ship that needed to go down ( in this case plane ) it’s a win win and after it goes down ..oh looky here those two pilots were totally at fault and should have never been flying a plane ! Closed case it was there fault ..faulty pilots no need to look further.
But it’s sure a coincidence that two incompetent pilots were in charge of the plane that was carrying a high profile target.....I’m assuming incompetent pilots are few and far between??
Please, provide all of your evidence to the contrary.
I'm sorry, but I don't play in the world of feelings. I play in the world of facts. Just because you feel like these two events are related, doesn't make it so.
You have the exact same access to the transcript, just not the audio. I'm only confirming that the transcript of the event released to the public matches the audio that I've heard.
It's a confirmation that what you have is real, not a "I have something you don't."
Typical conspiracy theorist all-believer. Some rando puts two pictures next to each other with conspiratorial text on it. Someone else deeply familiar with the events says "That's not what happened".
... but you're more inclined to believe the rando with photoshop than the person who has reviewed the evidence in depth.
Look, the Clintons, Bushes and Obamas have murdered dozens, if not hundreds of people. Give me a list of ten other names of people you think they killed and I'll agree with most of them... From Vince Foster to Gary Webb to Seth Rich, I'll agree with you. 9/11 was an inside job (building seven is the smoking gun) and this poor lady's husband died during this false flag massacre of our own citizens. I'm not denying any of that. The globohomo pedophiles wanted to control the opium trade, and murdered thousands to get us in a fake war.
But this one just fell in their lap and I can guarantee it. In fact, I bet they had a good evil laugh at their luck the next morning.
CIA is perfectly capable of messing with equipment don't you think? The de-icing for example? Even capable of messing with people/making them extra sick to break their concentration. Not saying I'm positive but the possibility is there
You don't take a plane out of the sky by messing with de-icing equipment and making someone sick. There may not be enough ice, she may be very resilient to the cold/flu and not be effected as badly as you wanted... too many variables.
You make planes crash by blowing them up and then telling the people any story you want through the media because they'll buy it if the media tells them it happened.
Sorta like Covid.
There is no conspiracy here... it was two shitty pilots who happened to be flying the same day and when something went wrong with the flight (which they caused) they both reacted exactly the opposite way to what they should have done to recover the aircraft.
You seem pretty passionate about your response. Your not getting vulgar, or desperate. You seem educated about this event. And I mean no real reason to prove or not prove, she’ll get no justice either way, out of any of our findings. I don’t know. I tend to believe what your saying. I saw a video of a small plane, that had failure because of ice buildup. The guy had like 20 yrs experience. He just had never had to use the de-icer thing since training. He was ok. Took an emergency landing. But he wanted to show his failures that could’ve been disastrous, to teach others.
So I may be a fool...but I believe you. Sounds plausible. And like you said earlier, other incidents cannot be explained other than someone’s interference. But perhaps this one was bad luck for her unfortunately. I do feel for her. But at least she fought the good fight. And the Lord took her home. Rest In Peace Beverly Eckert. God will finish your battle for you. I trust in that.
I came at this from a different angle than a lot of people. I didn't know who was on the flight, and I never looked at the passenger manifest for a couple of years. I'm simply a passionate amateur airplane accident investigator who spends several hours a month on the subject as a hobby.
I read the reports, studied the data, read the transcripts and managed to listen to the audio of the CVR and I know without a shadow of a doubt what happened to that flight.
Look, I fully understand the skepticism of people coming at this from the other direction. They know that 9/11 was a false flag attack, then they hear about a lady who has turned down government payoffs and has been pushing for a truth commission... and then she dies the day after she meets with Obama.
If that isn't conspiracy level stuff, then I don't know what is. If I had come at it from that direction, then I'd believe it too. It's very difficult to sort through the noise and look into literally every death and conspiracy available.
All I'm asking is that people be willing to look at both sides of an argument and then please choose the side with the preponderance of evidence... and I'm telling you that the preponderance of evidence in this case is for an accidental crash.
Ok, so just as an introduction, I am an amateur airplane accident investigator. I have spent thousands of hours since 2009 reading FAA reports, reading black box transcripts, listening to black box recordings, looking at a flight data recorder (FDR) data, watching videos, listening to depositions, talking to pilots... etc in order to find out why planes crash.
Colgan Air 3407 was not crashed by the government. It absolutely 100% wasn't. I know it seems like a crazy series of events that are related, but I can assure you that they're not in this case.
The real tragedy here is that Captain Renslow should have never been in any airplane, much less that airplane on that night. He was a failure of a pilot and should have had his flight status revoked years before the accident. In addition, his first officer, Captain Shaw, was very sick and her illness was distracting her from her flight duties.
Also, they both ignored multiple, and I mean multiple, FAA safety recommendations such as having non-flight related discussions below 10,000 feet to not turning on the de-icing equipment even though they were flying through icing conditions.
When the icing occurred on the leading edges of the flight surfaces, the plane entered an aerodynamic stall. The worst part about this stall is that Captain Renslow had failed to recover a plane from exactly this scenario in flight simulators on several occasions and was still allowed to, not only keep his flight status, but to remain a captain. In addition to this, FO Shaw also reacted incorrectly and retracted the flaps which made the aircraft even more aerodynamically unstable.
I work in a very unique position, have a high security clearance level and access to data that most people cannot see. I've heard the audio on the black box recording that has never been released to the public. It's not something you want to hear. It's horrifying and entirely consistent with an accident.
It's an unfortunate event that Beverly Eckert was on that particular flight, but I can assure you with 100% confidence after studying this aircraft incident for hundreds of hours that it's not a conspiracy.
Feels like when those "first responders" always come out of the woodwork to defend the Sandy Hook narrative..
No kidding ..sounds to me like those two pilots kept there license because DS knew they could use them someday to man the ship that needed to go down ( in this case plane ) it’s a win win and after it goes down ..oh looky here those two pilots were totally at fault and should have never been flying a plane ! Closed case it was there fault ..faulty pilots no need to look further.
But it’s sure a coincidence that two incompetent pilots were in charge of the plane that was carrying a high profile target.....I’m assuming incompetent pilots are few and far between??
Incompetent people are every where in every profession ..look around at our country
Please, provide all of your evidence to the contrary.
I'm sorry, but I don't play in the world of feelings. I play in the world of facts. Just because you feel like these two events are related, doesn't make it so.
Weird response when the exact same could be copy pasted to your original comment.
Not saying you're incorrect just a strange defense.
https://tailstrike.com/database/12-february-2009-colgan-air-3407/
You have the exact same access to the transcript, just not the audio. I'm only confirming that the transcript of the event released to the public matches the audio that I've heard.
It's a confirmation that what you have is real, not a "I have something you don't."
You didnt provide evidence, only a narrative.
Show me yours i show you mine
what a coincidence that we always have expert people to fact check those weird freaking coicidences/accidents
Typical conspiracy theorist all-believer. Some rando puts two pictures next to each other with conspiratorial text on it. Someone else deeply familiar with the events says "That's not what happened".
... but you're more inclined to believe the rando with photoshop than the person who has reviewed the evidence in depth.
Look, the Clintons, Bushes and Obamas have murdered dozens, if not hundreds of people. Give me a list of ten other names of people you think they killed and I'll agree with most of them... From Vince Foster to Gary Webb to Seth Rich, I'll agree with you. 9/11 was an inside job (building seven is the smoking gun) and this poor lady's husband died during this false flag massacre of our own citizens. I'm not denying any of that. The globohomo pedophiles wanted to control the opium trade, and murdered thousands to get us in a fake war.
But this one just fell in their lap and I can guarantee it. In fact, I bet they had a good evil laugh at their luck the next morning.
Also:
https://tailstrike.com/database/12-february-2009-colgan-air-3407/
Typical glowie response.
CIA is perfectly capable of messing with equipment don't you think? The de-icing for example? Even capable of messing with people/making them extra sick to break their concentration. Not saying I'm positive but the possibility is there
You don't take a plane out of the sky by messing with de-icing equipment and making someone sick. There may not be enough ice, she may be very resilient to the cold/flu and not be effected as badly as you wanted... too many variables.
You make planes crash by blowing them up and then telling the people any story you want through the media because they'll buy it if the media tells them it happened.
Sorta like Covid.
There is no conspiracy here... it was two shitty pilots who happened to be flying the same day and when something went wrong with the flight (which they caused) they both reacted exactly the opposite way to what they should have done to recover the aircraft.
You seem pretty passionate about your response. Your not getting vulgar, or desperate. You seem educated about this event. And I mean no real reason to prove or not prove, she’ll get no justice either way, out of any of our findings. I don’t know. I tend to believe what your saying. I saw a video of a small plane, that had failure because of ice buildup. The guy had like 20 yrs experience. He just had never had to use the de-icer thing since training. He was ok. Took an emergency landing. But he wanted to show his failures that could’ve been disastrous, to teach others.
So I may be a fool...but I believe you. Sounds plausible. And like you said earlier, other incidents cannot be explained other than someone’s interference. But perhaps this one was bad luck for her unfortunately. I do feel for her. But at least she fought the good fight. And the Lord took her home. Rest In Peace Beverly Eckert. God will finish your battle for you. I trust in that.
I came at this from a different angle than a lot of people. I didn't know who was on the flight, and I never looked at the passenger manifest for a couple of years. I'm simply a passionate amateur airplane accident investigator who spends several hours a month on the subject as a hobby.
I read the reports, studied the data, read the transcripts and managed to listen to the audio of the CVR and I know without a shadow of a doubt what happened to that flight.
Look, I fully understand the skepticism of people coming at this from the other direction. They know that 9/11 was a false flag attack, then they hear about a lady who has turned down government payoffs and has been pushing for a truth commission... and then she dies the day after she meets with Obama.
If that isn't conspiracy level stuff, then I don't know what is. If I had come at it from that direction, then I'd believe it too. It's very difficult to sort through the noise and look into literally every death and conspiracy available.
All I'm asking is that people be willing to look at both sides of an argument and then please choose the side with the preponderance of evidence... and I'm telling you that the preponderance of evidence in this case is for an accidental crash.