Very clearly rose on Sunday, the day after the sabbath (or second sabbath, depending on point of view). How could you possibly get Saturday as the resurrection date?
Jewish reckoning of time is inclusive and also that a day is from sundown to sundown. Jesus rose on the first day of the week, which began at sundown on Saturday.
There is no biblical evidence for this. The only mention of the "first day of the week" was in reference to Mary coming to prepare His body for burial. From Passover before sundown, which was Wednesday, to Saturday before sundown fulfills what He said.
He died and was placed in the tomb on Wednesday before sundown, which was also Passover, and had a high Sabbath the next day. This makes Saturday before sundown the fulfillment of 3 days and 3 nights.
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. 2And behold, there was a great earthquake, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled back the stone and sat on it.
Matthew 28 NASB:
Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the tomb. 2And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone, and sat upon it.
Matthew 28 NKJV:
Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it.
Now I don't speak Hebrew and Greek but it seems very clear to me that your translation is not supported by the original texts. NASB is considered by most to be the best translation, but even so, it's not even supported by your KJV when put into more modern words, or even in the original KJV you've quoted.
The first Jewish day of the week was Sunday, and the two Mary's wouldn't have been doing what they were doing on the Sabbath day, PERIOD full stop.
He rose on Sunday, the first Jewish week day. It's very, very clear.
This is so like the Lord, I'm reading something this morning, totally unrelated to this subject, and He points me to this
Matthew 28 KJV
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
I just did a complete two day study on this and never saw this verse, not even one time. How can there be anymore questions about this? She is there at the end of the Sabbath, Saturday, before the day Sun Day had even dawned.
Martin dated the phenomenon to September 11, 3 BC (1 Tishrei 3759) based on his astronomical software calculations. The program indeed proved that on that date, the sun appeared in Virgo’s center, clothing her, with the moon under her feet. “In the year 3 B.C.E., these two factors came to precise agreement for about an hour and a half... in the twilight period of September 11th the relationship began about 6:15 p.m. (sunset), and lasted until around 7:45 p.m. (moonset). This is the only day in the whole year that the astronomical phenomenon described in the twelfth chapter of Revelation could take place.”14
Well nothing wrong with some research to see if there is a theory out there on this. Jump in Anons if you’d like. It’s interesting to say the least. Though I’m a Christmas believer. But shift in the earth’s orbit, wobble, position in the galaxy orbit might have affected dates to be off. So it’s interesting to research anyway.
Christmas is entirely pagan, like Easter: its about the birth of the sun - not the son. I gave up celebrating it. Read Pagan Christianity (Frank Viola & George Barna) quite an eye opener.
Well we know Jesus was born in fall. Some speculate during a feast. It would be interesting if today but I've not heard a specific reasoning for this date in particular. Def not Christmas 😁
Heard a number of Bible scholars mention this, don't see why not - it certainly was not on Christmas Day. Would explain the satanic barbaric evil perpetrated 20 years ago.
Revelation chapter 12 gives enough information about the stars and how they appeared in the sky when Christ was born that his birthdate can be determined definitively.
You are not wrong, Biblical evidence points to early fall. Dec 25th is a pagan roman festival of the sun, adopted by the catholics.
He didn't rise from the grave on "Easter Sun Day" either.
Correct.
Do tell, what day did The Lord rise from the dead?
Saturday. It is all in the Bible, the 4 Gospels, you just have to read very carefully.
Where the heck do you get Saturday from? The date in question is when he was crucified, not when he rose.
https://www.gotquestions.org/three-days.html
Very clearly rose on Sunday, the day after the sabbath (or second sabbath, depending on point of view). How could you possibly get Saturday as the resurrection date?
Jewish reckoning of time is inclusive and also that a day is from sundown to sundown. Jesus rose on the first day of the week, which began at sundown on Saturday.
Clearly you didn't read the link.
There is no biblical evidence for this. The only mention of the "first day of the week" was in reference to Mary coming to prepare His body for burial. From Passover before sundown, which was Wednesday, to Saturday before sundown fulfills what He said.
He died and was placed in the tomb on Wednesday before sundown, which was also Passover, and had a high Sabbath the next day. This makes Saturday before sundown the fulfillment of 3 days and 3 nights.
No, that's blatantly refuted in The Bible, and that article I linked to covers all possible options. Yours is not supported by scripture.
Matthew 28 KJV
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Matthew 28 ESV:
Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. 2And behold, there was a great earthquake, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled back the stone and sat on it.
Matthew 28 NASB:
Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the tomb. 2And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone, and sat upon it.
Matthew 28 NKJV:
Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it.
Now I don't speak Hebrew and Greek but it seems very clear to me that your translation is not supported by the original texts. NASB is considered by most to be the best translation, but even so, it's not even supported by your KJV when put into more modern words, or even in the original KJV you've quoted.
The first Jewish day of the week was Sunday, and the two Mary's wouldn't have been doing what they were doing on the Sabbath day, PERIOD full stop.
He rose on Sunday, the first Jewish week day. It's very, very clear.
The problem with the article you posted is that Jonah was in the belly of the whale for 3 full days and 3 full nights. This explains it completely
https://communities.win/c/Christianity/p/12kFUWns7t/christ-was-resurrected-on-saturd/c
You very clearly didn't read the article.
This is so like the Lord, I'm reading something this morning, totally unrelated to this subject, and He points me to this
Matthew 28 KJV
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
I just did a complete two day study on this and never saw this verse, not even one time. How can there be anymore questions about this? She is there at the end of the Sabbath, Saturday, before the day Sun Day had even dawned.
Agreed, He arose on the first day of the week, before the sunrise of First Fruits.
The first day of the week is Sun Day. He rose on the Sabbath, Saturday.
https://jewsforjesus.org/publications/inherit/when-jesus-was-really-born
Martin dated the phenomenon to September 11, 3 BC (1 Tishrei 3759) based on his astronomical software calculations. The program indeed proved that on that date, the sun appeared in Virgo’s center, clothing her, with the moon under her feet. “In the year 3 B.C.E., these two factors came to precise agreement for about an hour and a half... in the twilight period of September 11th the relationship began about 6:15 p.m. (sunset), and lasted until around 7:45 p.m. (moonset). This is the only day in the whole year that the astronomical phenomenon described in the twelfth chapter of Revelation could take place.”14
This explains it pretty well with bible verses to back up...
https://goodnessofgodministries.international/2011/12/22/when-was-jesus-christ-born-the-bible-says-september-11-3bc-the-day-of-the-feast-of-trumpets/
I wish I could upvote this more, the article is excellent.
Well nothing wrong with some research to see if there is a theory out there on this. Jump in Anons if you’d like. It’s interesting to say the least. Though I’m a Christmas believer. But shift in the earth’s orbit, wobble, position in the galaxy orbit might have affected dates to be off. So it’s interesting to research anyway.
Christmas is entirely pagan, like Easter: its about the birth of the sun - not the son. I gave up celebrating it. Read Pagan Christianity (Frank Viola & George Barna) quite an eye opener.
Well we know Jesus was born in fall. Some speculate during a feast. It would be interesting if today but I've not heard a specific reasoning for this date in particular. Def not Christmas 😁
Disagree with the October date-
Here's more info about the September 11 date posted by u/aurion posted elsewhere in this thread-
https://greatawakening.win/p/12kFry6SKw/x/c/4JEWKQjxR0C
Need someone who knows the old calendar not our gogorian calendar
I can't spell sue me :)
Lol! I LIKE "gorgorian" for a calendar name. Wish I'd'a thunk of that! ;)
Its the name of the calendar western countries use I'm sure I spelt it wrong
No worries, no quibbles from me, at least. THANK YOU for being here! MAGA!
Heard a number of Bible scholars mention this, don't see why not - it certainly was not on Christmas Day. Would explain the satanic barbaric evil perpetrated 20 years ago.
You may be correct but let's keep in mind we know not the day of His return. Get ready.
Here's a thread I started on the subject, fren:
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jwQwudGN/weve-overlooked-a-very-significa/
I've seen this brought up and have gone over stuff but not enough to buy in to it.
Do you have anything convincing?
Isn't just the beginning of the Jewish New Year?
Look in Stellarium to see what the stars were like over Bethlehem on this date and time.
Jesus was born on a 1 Tishri and re-born on a 1 Nisan? Would make sense indeed.
Can you share the thought process behind this concept?
Was posted elsewhere in this thread-
https://goodnessofgodministries.international/2011/12/22/when-was-jesus-christ-born-the-bible-says-september-11-3bc-the-day-of-the-feast-of-trumpets/
Revelation chapter 12 gives enough information about the stars and how they appeared in the sky when Christ was born that his birthdate can be determined definitively.