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Can Businesses MANDATE an "EUA" vaccine ( Emergency Use Authorized ) ?
posted 4 years ago by WinstonO1984 4 years ago by WinstonO1984 +9 / -0

Pfizer's FDA approved "Comirnaty" is not even in the states, and won't be for a Year or Two. The only thing they have to offer is the BioNTech vaccine, which is still EUA only approved. Can one's job be lost because one does not take an EUA JAB?

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– Sadness 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The businesses are being coerced by the government through heavy fines, per person that does not comply. I believe businesses need to grow a wee bit of a spine because this will start hitting the courts shortly. However, in the meantime, the dems are counting on catching millions in their evil net before litigation prevents them. However, if a business threatens ones livelihood, then that is coercion to take a medical procedure, and that is against all sorts of laws, EUA or not. (Think bill of rights, Nuremberg code and fourth, fourteenth and tenth amendments. If they deny a religious exemption, then there is also the first amendment). Breaking the law is also the case if a work contract does not have vaccines described in it. A business is then changing the terms of the contract. Also under disability rules, they do not have the right to ask about what medicines one is taking. So, they do not even have the right to ask whether one is vaxxed, or not.

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks Sadness...they JUST rejected my Religious Exemption request, did not reply to my e-mail, rather had my immediate manager send me an IM with the Decline, and WE NEED TO SPEAK in the MORNING routine. I also attached this to my Religious exempting - I am asserting my right to a religious accommodation under Title VII of

the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S. Code § 2000e), which prohibits

discrimination against a sincerely held religious belief, practice, or

observance. SOOOO..aparently they are not observing Civil Rights anymore?

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– ninuo 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

They cannot just deny your religious exemption request without going through an interactive process with you. Ask them why they denied your request and request to have an interactive process to come up with reasonable accommodations. If your employer does not allow you to have an interactive process and simply denies your request, make sure you document this and take legal action.

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks Ninuo...So far they are going through my immediate manager, no e-mail to me, so it already seems "Sketchy"!

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– Sadness 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, it seems so. Don't let them bully you. Also remember, they have a federal axe hanging over their heads. At 30000 feet I see that the feds are trying to foment discord between business owners and their workers, mainly to distract from the colossal failures that they are responsible for. Business owners do not have the right to deny a religious exemption, and they are not allowed to ask for 'proof' of religion, either. They do not have the right to even ask after your medical status, and they certainly do not have the right to threaten or coerce you. Anyway, don't let them bully you. All this NEED to SPEAK is an attempt to intimidate, but you have all the power, and keep saying no.

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– Sadness 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Here is some ACLU material about disability rights. I shudder at the source, but let's turn their words against them! https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/disability-rights/ In this case the 'disability' is your obstinacy, on an Asperger's level, to disclose your vax status. Remember that autism and Asperger's is very hard to diagnose, so obstinacy has become defined as a mental disability. Oppositional Defiance Disorder, is a disability, according to the DSM-5. Threaten to file a charge of discrimination with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission or your state fair employment practices agency, if they try to worm your vaccination status out of you, after obstinately saying no, three times.

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks Sadness...Not sure how much an attorney costs...but that is what I am going to start looking for early morning!

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– Kussdom 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Join Coworkers so legal fees are cheaper!

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– Sadness 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Even the threat will make them back down in some cases. But getting some legal back-up may help, for sure.

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I agree Sadness...I just want some Legalize sent from someone OTHER than ME...

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– covfefe_americano 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Also, if your State is a 1-person consent State, I'd record the heck out of that meeting.

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I am behind enemy lines, Covfefe :( Cali and the home of Gruesome Newsom is where I dwell,,,for the time being :(

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– gobby 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

No. Coercion is illegal. "You better have sex with me or I'll fire you." Essentially, it's the same thing. Do as I say or you lose your job. It's unconstitutional, anyway.

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Agreed Gobby...going to spend my Tuesday OFF looking for an attorney :( Bastards!

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– gobby 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Good for you. And btw, if you look for a poster called 20-guage and DM her, she has tons of resources for such an instance, as do America's Frontline Doctors. But if you can find your own attorney, that would probably be better as I suspect the others will be inundated. Good luck and please keep us posted.

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Will do Gobby...Thanks!!

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– MisterBishop1942 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

https://greatawakening.win/p/12jJBxteBG/updated-guide-on-how-the-vaxxed-/

This would be the 20-gauge post.

Good luck pede

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks Mister B...Looking at it right now

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– MisterBishop1942 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

No problem, hope it helps!

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Light/Dark Thanks...I am looking for a Doc to make them sign, that they are responsible for any issues as a result of FORCED JAB..!

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Checking that now...TY!

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– CherokeePede 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

No they cannot. They have no right to your medical information and have no legal grounds to discriminate against you or anyone else for medical reasons.

Would be no different than forcing everyone to get tested for HIV and firing everyone who does not get treated for it. Even if they dont have it.

Also no different that firing people for not getting a smallpox vaccine or any other treatment for a potential illness that can be passed to others.

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks Pede!! I feel the same...of course they appear to NOT be willing to put anything in e-mail!

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– CherokeePede 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

They are treading on legal thin ice and they know it. You, hell. All of us need to force the issue. Make them do it by the book. Conversations mean nothing and emails hold little weight. If they do not fully document, there is no court that will take their side, they know it. They might "tell"people they are fired or "do not return to work" and try to force people into signing resignations that have nothing to do with the vaccine.

If they try to go that far DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT CLEARLY STATE WHY THEY ARE TERMINATING YOU(not veing vaccinated) AND THAT THEY ARE CHOSING TO TERMINATE FOR THAT REASON.

Sorry for all caps. Trying to get that point accross to everyone. HR is thdre for a reason. To protect the business from litigation. They will lie all day to cover their bosses ass. In the end, only the documentation can be brought to court.

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks Pede!! They ALREADY do not want to reply with an e-mail...shows me something right there...ALSO I do type in CAPS myself :) TY for the Response!

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– WinstonO1984 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Agreed Uncle...Will attempt to convey that...to the JAB Nazi's!

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– Kussdom 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Just had an interesting conversation with Wellspan...They advertise the Jab in Pa. I informed them 2 coworkers had a stroke after receiving the jab and asked if there was any legal repercussions for the manufacturer or the administer of the Vax.. the answer was a definite No because under EUA it is take at your own risk! Fuck that Shot...tell your employer to assume all responsibility in writing! I bet they back down!

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