We cannot make the first move. Not enough people will join. This is why we are waiting. Waiting for the right event that unites left and right for a common goal and purpose. Then you will have your 80 million plus many more.
The vaccine mandate was a good start, and we are seeing groups can come together, but it's still not enough. Something more, something bigger needs to happen. IMO
Agreed the OP is smoking more crack than Hunter Biden. Want 100 million Americans to think we really ARE terrorists? Try firing the first shot and see how it goes. Not well. Clowns!
Where did I ever say we should make the first move and do so in the near future? Never did. Of course that would not be the right way to go about it. But that means we have to have some idea of what the final “line” actually is. I would imagine Covid Camps or a firearms confiscation would be two possibilities, but what if it happens slowly and nobody ever thinks it’s serious enough until it’s too late? That’s how we got here. Nobody took the idea of vaccine mandates seriously in 2020 because it seemed so far off and unlikely. Nobody really did anything, and here we are.
We gotta be careful to not let ourselves repeat that line of thinking l.
I agree for sure. It’s just hard trying to figure out what that point will be? Every single day it seems like it can’t get any worse and that point can’t still lie ahead. I know it can, but fuck. Seems like we are extremely close to it being too late.
Thanks for at least entertaining the idea and reality of the situation. We are literally right there. I don’t know what will push us over, but we best be sure that we don’t miss that event when it comes. I would imagine it would be pretty clear for all of us, but what if it isn’t?
Ugh! You are a C L O W N and your arguments are cringe!
Never said we weren't founded by violence but you are picking the absolute worst time to shill for violence, guy. You want 100+ million Americans to think we're ACTUAL terrorists? We will LOSE unless the people are behind us!
Fuck. You people are dense. “Shill for violence”? Do you know what incitement actually is? Nowhere did I ever mention that anyone in the near future, gather, arm up, and go start an open conflict, you absolute dolt.
If you can’t stone up and come to terms with the fact that god forbid you might have to use that gun of yours some day in order to save our Nation, you don’t have what it takes to do so anyway. Period,
They already think we are actual terrorists, pal. Look around. We are way past that. We are losing. We will not stop losing anytime soon, and dismissing anyone like me who dares to ask fellow Americans who might be willing to open some kind of communication in a plan b, will actively usher in our final and total demise.
Where did I say to get violent right now? Never did. I said we need to start actually doing something. Fuck off with the movie shit for real. Nobody is coming to save us. Trump is not coming back. It’s on Us. Period.
If you don’t have the stones to understand that, come to terms with it, and do your duty as an American to defend and save our Country, than just get out of the way while those who understand the sacrifice that may be needed can start to actually do more than tell everyone “this is a movie bro. Biden is on a movie set. Watch the water am I right?”
You’re the one who needs deported. Waiting on some fairy to swoop in and stop this.
Who comes onto a Q site and starts saying "there is no plan we need to do something" gtfoh shill!
"I never said get violent I said do something"
Okay... What would you suggest, genius? Voting? Tried it! A big protest in DC? Tried it! What's left? Violence. Don't talk to me like I'm a fucking child.
I am actually NOT against organizing and preparing. But fuck outta here if you're gonna talk about how all of us on here are waiting for "fairies to save us".
A Q site? Is that all that is allowed here? Are we all supposed to place all our hope into Q, which is a largely unknown and questionable theory about an almost unbelievable covert op to save our asses at the last second? If that is going to happen, what is the Q team waiting for? I definitely buy into quite a bit of the Q stuff I've seen over the years, but it is foolish to sit back and wait for Q and Co. to save the day. We have the 2A for a reason. That is a concrete solution with a real chance. And at this point more of a chance than Trump, Q, and whoever else to ride in at the eleventh hour and spare us from having to actually man up and exercise our 2A Rights and defend our Country.
Maybe if you would wake up and see the value in beginning to at least attempt to figure out what needs to be done if Q isn’t real, I wouldn’t talk to you like a kid. But if you are placing all your eggs in the Q basket at this point and are completely unwilling to entertain any other plan because you are so solid on W, you ARE a child and you don’t understand what is truly happening, what is at stake, and what might actually need to be done by We The People to stop it.
Forgive me for asking if there is any kind of concrete ideas or loose plan for where to gather, what to do, etc. if Mr Q. Doesnt swoop in after waiting until the absolute last second to do so.
If Q is a Psy-op to subdue us and pacify us into doing literally nothing and making no attempt at a contingency plan, then it has worked really fucking well.
If you want to alienate people like me who are on your side but maybe just have a few concerns with placing the survival of humanity on basically zero concrete proof of Q’s existent in recent months. You are doing what the Left does. Someone critiques or disagrees with Q, you insult and dismiss them.
We are way past all that. How about you wake up and figure out how you, yourself, will actually fight, if/when Q is nowhere to be found and it actually is on us to take a stand.
I think you may be in the wrong group buddy. How long have you been here to think what you just wrote will resonate with anyone here? I haven’t been here that long and even I know you are way off base. I think you might need to find a new group or maybe a militia. That’s not what GAW is
So then GAW is a bunch of “Patriots” who love their country so much that they dismiss other Americans for raising real concerns and wondering if anyone has any idea or concept for a plan b. Y’all love America so much that you won’t lift a finger to defend your Country if any violence is involved because you’re counting on someone else to come to the rescue. Yeah, real patriotic. As if now is the time to gatekeep what can be discussed here in one of the only remaining places to find large number of like minded, conservative Americans.
I’m just saying that you are speaking to the wrong crowd by saying “ Mr Q”, and just the way you worded that last comment I responded to. You are also trying to get people to divulge ideas they may have that can then be used against our community as a whole which in the long run will hurt us more. I don’t know exactly what you are wanting, you want us to say “hey on this day we are going to do x y or z”. I am a veteran, I am a mom and I am a patriot who would sacrifice my life in a heartbeat to save my children and country. I’m also not stupid, I am doing what I am capable of doing now but I sure as hell will not fall into some Jan 6th type rally trap.
First of all, we are way past making sure we have the correct “crowd” when it comes to these topics. Are you American? Do you care about the survival of your Country? Yes and yes. Okay, correct audience.
We are also way past getting offended by wording in text format with no emotional capacity. I know everyone here loves this country and does not want to see things continue to worsen. We gotta all understand that things may come off harsh or rude, but many are worried, frustrated and all of the above.
And no. I didn’t want anyone to divulge any specifics. If you can’t deduce that my post was trying to gauge the overall feel and general information about ways to possibly connect with others who see the value in discussing and planning for a no Q type scenario, I don’t know what to tell you. I shouldn’t have to be all covert. Obviously don’t give super details.
And I hope you and everyone else would do what is needed to fight for our Nation, but a lot of what I see here is “wait for someone else to save us” rhetoric, disguised as some courageous faith in a “plan” that really has not given much in the way of concrete proof it truly exists. Not in quite a while at least. If that is all you are counting on, I would encourage you to take stock of the path we are on and what might happen if Q, which I do believe in quite a bit and certainly hope comes to pass despite not a lot to hold onto lately, fails to save the day.
I definitely question if getting involved in the very bureaucracy and political system that allowed this corruption to fester, survive, and even thrive, is going to get it done. I highly doubt we have the time to wait a handful of years for the wheels of power to shift in the other direction. Look at how long it took the Left to get to this point.
Civil disobedience is great. Public and bold non-compliance is the best weapon we have to bring about immediate results. But will that get it done? I don’t know. At some point we have to understand that the 2A, at least a widespread display of a populous ready to do what is needed, is very likely going to have to come into play in order to truly free ourselves of these criminal snakes. To hell with whatever the media and Left will attempt to paint it as. If it gets to that point, success would mean they aren’t in positions of influence where that would even matter anymore.
"some point we have to understand that the 2A, at least a widespread display of a populous ready to do what is needed, is very likely going to have to come into play in order to truly free ourselves of these criminal snakes."
Yeah hey moron, that isn’t a call for violence. An actual call for violence would be “hey guys, let’s all meet at X location. Bring all your guns. It’s time to fight.”
My statement was an acknowledgment of the reality of the situation we are in and the purpose of the 2A and need for people to understand that it might actually be on us, god forbid, to step up and do something.
But yeah, keep sitting here, doing nothing. Waiting for Q. alienating those on your side, like me, who maybe see value in exploring a plan b if Q continues to trend of doing nothing to change or improve our situation or trajectory as a country.
Take your childish dismissal of backup plans and gtfo. You either give a fuck about our Nation and realize that you may have to do something yourself, or you sit back and rely entirely on something that nobody even knows for sure is real.
Biden is an actor. This was over (for them) a long time ago. Theyre just playing out their last moves, hoping for Trump to fumble. He wont.
Remember what Q said: "You and your families are safe. Promise". Theres more going on than meets the eye, but when you see it, youll like it...unless youre guilty. Then youll feel PANIC like youve never felt it before.
our forefathers did not run offense against the Crown. they did organize a provisional government to oppose the onslaught of punitive acts taken against them. independence and revolution were not the initial goal.
the July 4, 1776 declaration was over a year after Lexington & Concord.
these experiences gave our founders the wisdom to establish a federation of STATES as a continuous check against imperial overreach.
that is why Flynn is commanding us to take over local control -- our 'provisional' government that can, as the colonies did, Resolve to oppose Intolerable Acts imposed on us by a rogue federal government. this is essential to unity.
DC is more flypaper than Bastille; there's no citadel to storm that would wrest power of money supply and military. protesting illegal mandates and unconstitutional power grabs only legitimizes the usurpers assumed powers. an organized resistance of NON COMPLIANCE, enacted through legitimate local authorities, exceeds the power of an army and is morally defensible.
Yeah I get what you are saying. It’s hard to find that balance, but it just seems like nothing is going our way. It’s worse every day. Nobody does anything about it in our government, and the elites just keep laughing their ass off.
@LockedandLoaded after reading through all of the discussion, I would like to ask? And yes I’m putting you on the spot, but only for educational purposes for you. What do you know about what the Q-posts mean?
So as far as the super detailed decodings, not a whole lot honestly. I try and keep up as best I can by looking at what others have deduced and surmised. I understand the overall Cabal, satanic cult and those aspects of everything. The idea that Q is a plan by Trump and Co to take down the canal once and for all and that basically the argument now is they are all exposing themselves as criminals and Trump/Q are giving them enough rope to hang themselves with. Got all that. I know there is way more to Q but too much to get into all of what I do or do not get entirely.
What I have trouble with at this point is, what are we waiting for? Our Country is being destroyed by the day. It mag already be too late. It’s dangerous for everyone to think the largest covert op of all time is actually going to turn out to be legit, save the day and spare us all from any violence. That mentality leads to the belief that all we have to do is wait. Meanwhile, the Left is actively killing America faster and faster. But just wait, Q is coming. Despite the fact that the “Storm” has been coming for years at this point.
Let me help you with your understanding of Q. What it really means. This will show you, the only way forward is the military. And things must happen in stages.
I will dig into for sure. I used to follow Q very closely, just got busy. Still keep up to an extent, but it sure seems like not much is going on. And I've heard “the storm is coming” for years now, and with the idea that maybe Q is a Psy-op to subdue us into never taking action, it certainly needs to be considered.
If the only way forward is the military, then why does it appear that our entire military is currently and openly totally corrupt, with Biden and in bed with China? Cant understand that one. Thanks for not immediately being an asshole and laughing at the notion that there may be another reality where Q just might not save us all.
You need to organize locally, it has to be local. Anything that happens has to be done in the “right way” which means it is shown to the American people we are saving the country not overthrowing the country. If they come to your door to grab your guns I’d say shoot, anything else is not the right way. It’s pure insanity to post things on an open forum like this in my opinion. I personally enjoy my freedom and won’t give it up easily or by doing something stupid.
Well seeing as how I never called for any violence and only pointed out that, hey, the 2A has a purpose and maybe we should realize that we may actually have to use it for it’s intended purpose, I don’t give two fucks about who reads that post. FBI, CIA, NSA, FUCK ALL OF YOU. You corrupt fucks. Your judgment is coming.
If they want to whine about that shit, fuck them. They are all criminal scumbags anyway. Why the hell would I give a fuck what they think? Your freedoms are being eroded by the day, pal. While you sit here trying to figure out the most secret way to avoid pissing off some three letter agent that wants to see you locked up just for being conservative even if you never publicly posted anything.
We've already been told. ** Get involved in your local government. **. Help repair our culture with trickle up elections. We need to pack our school boards, county boards, city council, and state delegates with true conservatives.
I can see now how much power a state delegate has and have researched a bit to see it isn't hard to be a delegate. As a delegate, you’ll help draft the party platform, including making public education a central issue in the upcoming election.
Sharing our ideas within our communities without aggression and without violence is how we spread conservatism. Conservatives need to be organized and fight for every local seat or we will cede the country state by state.
Liberals have two main outlets for their propaganda — schools and the media. That is why they will fight to keep education as government-run and fight school choice.
They are molding the political, moral, and religious opinions of children -- starting in kindergarten. The question is what are we going to do about it??
I hear ya. Open conflict is absolutely a last resort. I’m looking to get involved locally, but we gotta realize that it might take more than that because they have a Vice grip on every facet of power and information and that’s took decades.
If you want to go join those in prison from Jan. 6th, there's nothing stopping you. The feds have even set up a date to make it easy for you. As for me, I'm going to hold the line like Q has asked us to. Patriots are in control.
Respectfully, I keep hearing (reading) people exhorting "us" to gather, to organize, to act, to blah blah blah and on the other hand, we are told DON'T DO IT, IT'S A FALSE FLAG, THEY WANT TO ARREST YOUR BUTT AND PUT YOU IN PRISON, THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE TRUMP SUPPORTERS LOOK BAD.
Well, which is it? If we are to act, how? Who is supposed to be in charge? Because we can't go running out into the night with our torches and pitchforks.
The best wisdom I heard is that the white hats are in charge and we should stay out of their way. I admit to being so confused I'm nearly paralyzed or like the squirrels in the middle of the road trying to figure out what direction to go.
I agree. But who gives a fuck if it’s a false flag to make us look bad? We are beyond that now. If we don’t act, this is all over.
You think the founders thought about political fallout and labels before they tossed the tea overboard, started a war over a 2% tax? Hell no. It’s time to realize that if we keep worrying about what the Left will do if we take a stand, we are done for. If we take a stand and truly stop this, the left won’t be in power or around to do anything. We are very close to now or never, and it is time to actually discuss doing something. Anything to get the ball rolling and inspire others to take a stand.
I live in one of the most conservative counties in America. I am not smug about that. The Trump signs around here have never come down. We have already been besieging our state reps. PA is going to have an audit like AZ.
That’s fair. And I hear ya. I know audits are being done, things are happening. But is it enough? If the audits show fraud, will anyone actually do anything? Milley is a traitor and an investigation won’t even be done. Why should we expect our government to give a damn about what the audits say?
I share every one of your concerns. I don't expect the gov't to give a damn. I honestly believe there are white hats in charge. This doesn't mean I think we should just twiddle our thumbs; the Lord helps those who help themselves. I think we need to do what we're being asked to do, which is take over our local gov'ts, school boards etc. This is something that patriots have been trying to get people to do for decades, because if we own our own local gov'ts the federales can't force this crap on us. Here in my county, Sheriff Eric Foy wrote one of the first letters to obama telling him that none of his new gun laws would be enforced here, and that if he sent any of his feds here to try it, they could come bail them out of jail. You NEED your county sheriffs above all. You would never believe how powerful they really are. They can tell the governor of the state to go sit down. Look into it, seriously. If we do our part with our local issues, we will make it a lot easier on the patriots doing the heavy lifting inside the federal garbage can.
I see the value in local transformation and power for sure. But look how long that can take. Do we have that kind of time? I’m not saying we rush to violence despite what some clowns on this thread say, but if we aren’t considering an “entirely on us” scenario, we are being very foolish.
The point is we should have been doing that all along. We have the time UNLESS we really want a bloody civil war. We have to exhaust all other paths before we can go there.
It is not time 3 other boxes must fail before we move the the 4th.
Soap box- that failed to turn it around so we move to box 2.
Voter box- well we know that failed due to fraud so we move to box 3.
Jury box- let's see how the audit is handled in AZ if the courts let the fraud stand, the our 3rd box failed amd we move the the 4th box- our ammunition box.
I hear ya. It’s tough because I don’t want to seem like I’m calling for open revolt tomorrow. But if we don’t start to come to grips and deal with the reality that the 4th box is very much in play and would require all of us to courageously take a stand, we may miss the chance for doing so. We need to start discussing, planning, and mentally realizing this is a very possible future if we truly want to do everything we can to save our Country.
The Pentagon did not confirm that Milley committed treason. They confirmed that he made the call, and that IF he did say what was reported, that would be treasonous.
My b. You are right. That said, the real issue is that there doesn’t seem to be anyone who gives a shit. Biden dismissed it. So who will actually do anything about any of this, if not us? Seems like nobody.
Are you serious? Do you not see what is going on and where we are headed if nothing is done? The government is on the brink of having legal precedent for medical tyranny against anyone for anything they deem a threat to public health. They even say racism is a public health issue. How long before conservatives are a threat to public health because they cause mental anxiety to leftists and decide to haul us all off to a nice resort somewhere.
Pointing fingers and glowie calling is their way of not doing anything.Their are militia groups and mutual assistance groups.They are poorly organized at best.Are their spy's,of course.I have a place outside Amarillo.Have tried for years to establish a group.No takers,not even to check me out.Just a country full of selfish,chicken shits.They didn't support Ruby ridge,Waco,Nevada nor Lavoy Finicum.Cowards.
People need to really wake up and reckon with what we are actually facing here. 2A talk isn’t just talk anymore. It’s very much on the table and from where I stand, the best option. It’s exactly what it is there for. Not saying we start tomorrow or make the first move. But what if we miss the time to do so? Feels like a gamble.
I realize that it is difficult but when or if a time comes to arm yourself and gather, you will certainly know it. That time is not now. Just be ready and hope that time never arrives and this is sorted because if an armed citizenry needs to sort this out it will be bloody chaos with no guarantee of success. Hold the line.
We cannot make the first move. Not enough people will join. This is why we are waiting. Waiting for the right event that unites left and right for a common goal and purpose. Then you will have your 80 million plus many more.
The vaccine mandate was a good start, and we are seeing groups can come together, but it's still not enough. Something more, something bigger needs to happen. IMO
Agreed the OP is smoking more crack than Hunter Biden. Want 100 million Americans to think we really ARE terrorists? Try firing the first shot and see how it goes. Not well. Clowns!
Where did I ever say we should make the first move and do so in the near future? Never did. Of course that would not be the right way to go about it. But that means we have to have some idea of what the final “line” actually is. I would imagine Covid Camps or a firearms confiscation would be two possibilities, but what if it happens slowly and nobody ever thinks it’s serious enough until it’s too late? That’s how we got here. Nobody took the idea of vaccine mandates seriously in 2020 because it seemed so far off and unlikely. Nobody really did anything, and here we are.
We gotta be careful to not let ourselves repeat that line of thinking l.
I agree for sure. It’s just hard trying to figure out what that point will be? Every single day it seems like it can’t get any worse and that point can’t still lie ahead. I know it can, but fuck. Seems like we are extremely close to it being too late.
Yes we are right up against the precipice I believe, just waiting for the catalyzing event to push everyone over the edge.
Thanks for at least entertaining the idea and reality of the situation. We are literally right there. I don’t know what will push us over, but we best be sure that we don’t miss that event when it comes. I would imagine it would be pretty clear for all of us, but what if it isn’t?
Deported. This shit is getting ridiculous. All these people coming on here telling us we need to get violent right before the 18th. Gtfoh
This is a MOVIE. How many times do you have to hear it? Did you see Biden renew that fraud EO? How could there be any doubt after that shit?
Saw a billion of these posts on the Donald right before the 6th. I'm sick of seeing glowies on here pushing for violence. Fuck. Off.
Ugh! You are a C L O W N and your arguments are cringe!
Never said we weren't founded by violence but you are picking the absolute worst time to shill for violence, guy. You want 100+ million Americans to think we're ACTUAL terrorists? We will LOSE unless the people are behind us!
Fuck. You people are dense. “Shill for violence”? Do you know what incitement actually is? Nowhere did I ever mention that anyone in the near future, gather, arm up, and go start an open conflict, you absolute dolt.
If you can’t stone up and come to terms with the fact that god forbid you might have to use that gun of yours some day in order to save our Nation, you don’t have what it takes to do so anyway. Period,
They already think we are actual terrorists, pal. Look around. We are way past that. We are losing. We will not stop losing anytime soon, and dismissing anyone like me who dares to ask fellow Americans who might be willing to open some kind of communication in a plan b, will actively usher in our final and total demise.
Where did I say to get violent right now? Never did. I said we need to start actually doing something. Fuck off with the movie shit for real. Nobody is coming to save us. Trump is not coming back. It’s on Us. Period.
If you don’t have the stones to understand that, come to terms with it, and do your duty as an American to defend and save our Country, than just get out of the way while those who understand the sacrifice that may be needed can start to actually do more than tell everyone “this is a movie bro. Biden is on a movie set. Watch the water am I right?”
You’re the one who needs deported. Waiting on some fairy to swoop in and stop this.
Who comes onto a Q site and starts saying "there is no plan we need to do something" gtfoh shill!
"I never said get violent I said do something"
Okay... What would you suggest, genius? Voting? Tried it! A big protest in DC? Tried it! What's left? Violence. Don't talk to me like I'm a fucking child.
I am actually NOT against organizing and preparing. But fuck outta here if you're gonna talk about how all of us on here are waiting for "fairies to save us".
A Q site? Is that all that is allowed here? Are we all supposed to place all our hope into Q, which is a largely unknown and questionable theory about an almost unbelievable covert op to save our asses at the last second? If that is going to happen, what is the Q team waiting for? I definitely buy into quite a bit of the Q stuff I've seen over the years, but it is foolish to sit back and wait for Q and Co. to save the day. We have the 2A for a reason. That is a concrete solution with a real chance. And at this point more of a chance than Trump, Q, and whoever else to ride in at the eleventh hour and spare us from having to actually man up and exercise our 2A Rights and defend our Country.
Maybe if you would wake up and see the value in beginning to at least attempt to figure out what needs to be done if Q isn’t real, I wouldn’t talk to you like a kid. But if you are placing all your eggs in the Q basket at this point and are completely unwilling to entertain any other plan because you are so solid on W, you ARE a child and you don’t understand what is truly happening, what is at stake, and what might actually need to be done by We The People to stop it.
Forgive me for asking if there is any kind of concrete ideas or loose plan for where to gather, what to do, etc. if Mr Q. Doesnt swoop in after waiting until the absolute last second to do so.
If Q is a Psy-op to subdue us and pacify us into doing literally nothing and making no attempt at a contingency plan, then it has worked really fucking well.
"A Q site? Is that all that is allowed here?"
YES.
R E A D T H E R U L E S
Hey Me. Rule Guy, fuck right off.
If you want to alienate people like me who are on your side but maybe just have a few concerns with placing the survival of humanity on basically zero concrete proof of Q’s existent in recent months. You are doing what the Left does. Someone critiques or disagrees with Q, you insult and dismiss them.
We are way past all that. How about you wake up and figure out how you, yourself, will actually fight, if/when Q is nowhere to be found and it actually is on us to take a stand.
I think you may be in the wrong group buddy. How long have you been here to think what you just wrote will resonate with anyone here? I haven’t been here that long and even I know you are way off base. I think you might need to find a new group or maybe a militia. That’s not what GAW is
So then GAW is a bunch of “Patriots” who love their country so much that they dismiss other Americans for raising real concerns and wondering if anyone has any idea or concept for a plan b. Y’all love America so much that you won’t lift a finger to defend your Country if any violence is involved because you’re counting on someone else to come to the rescue. Yeah, real patriotic. As if now is the time to gatekeep what can be discussed here in one of the only remaining places to find large number of like minded, conservative Americans.
I’m just saying that you are speaking to the wrong crowd by saying “ Mr Q”, and just the way you worded that last comment I responded to. You are also trying to get people to divulge ideas they may have that can then be used against our community as a whole which in the long run will hurt us more. I don’t know exactly what you are wanting, you want us to say “hey on this day we are going to do x y or z”. I am a veteran, I am a mom and I am a patriot who would sacrifice my life in a heartbeat to save my children and country. I’m also not stupid, I am doing what I am capable of doing now but I sure as hell will not fall into some Jan 6th type rally trap.
First of all, we are way past making sure we have the correct “crowd” when it comes to these topics. Are you American? Do you care about the survival of your Country? Yes and yes. Okay, correct audience.
We are also way past getting offended by wording in text format with no emotional capacity. I know everyone here loves this country and does not want to see things continue to worsen. We gotta all understand that things may come off harsh or rude, but many are worried, frustrated and all of the above.
And no. I didn’t want anyone to divulge any specifics. If you can’t deduce that my post was trying to gauge the overall feel and general information about ways to possibly connect with others who see the value in discussing and planning for a no Q type scenario, I don’t know what to tell you. I shouldn’t have to be all covert. Obviously don’t give super details.
And I hope you and everyone else would do what is needed to fight for our Nation, but a lot of what I see here is “wait for someone else to save us” rhetoric, disguised as some courageous faith in a “plan” that really has not given much in the way of concrete proof it truly exists. Not in quite a while at least. If that is all you are counting on, I would encourage you to take stock of the path we are on and what might happen if Q, which I do believe in quite a bit and certainly hope comes to pass despite not a lot to hold onto lately, fails to save the day.
People are doing something, they are taking over their school boards, they are filing lawsuits, they are practicing civil disobedience.
If you don't think there is enough being done, than start at home.
Agreed. This country is being taken back piece by piece.
I definitely question if getting involved in the very bureaucracy and political system that allowed this corruption to fester, survive, and even thrive, is going to get it done. I highly doubt we have the time to wait a handful of years for the wheels of power to shift in the other direction. Look at how long it took the Left to get to this point.
Civil disobedience is great. Public and bold non-compliance is the best weapon we have to bring about immediate results. But will that get it done? I don’t know. At some point we have to understand that the 2A, at least a widespread display of a populous ready to do what is needed, is very likely going to have to come into play in order to truly free ourselves of these criminal snakes. To hell with whatever the media and Left will attempt to paint it as. If it gets to that point, success would mean they aren’t in positions of influence where that would even matter anymore.
"some point we have to understand that the 2A, at least a widespread display of a populous ready to do what is needed, is very likely going to have to come into play in order to truly free ourselves of these criminal snakes."
"I nEvEr CaLlEd FoR vIoLeNcE!!!!1"
Yeah hey moron, that isn’t a call for violence. An actual call for violence would be “hey guys, let’s all meet at X location. Bring all your guns. It’s time to fight.”
My statement was an acknowledgment of the reality of the situation we are in and the purpose of the 2A and need for people to understand that it might actually be on us, god forbid, to step up and do something.
But yeah, keep sitting here, doing nothing. Waiting for Q. alienating those on your side, like me, who maybe see value in exploring a plan b if Q continues to trend of doing nothing to change or improve our situation or trajectory as a country.
Take your childish dismissal of backup plans and gtfo. You either give a fuck about our Nation and realize that you may have to do something yourself, or you sit back and rely entirely on something that nobody even knows for sure is real.
Biden is an actor. This was over (for them) a long time ago. Theyre just playing out their last moves, hoping for Trump to fumble. He wont. Remember what Q said: "You and your families are safe. Promise". Theres more going on than meets the eye, but when you see it, youll like it...unless youre guilty. Then youll feel PANIC like youve never felt it before.
I certainly hope you’re right and I believe a lot of the Q stuff. Just feel like it’s risky putting all eggs in one basket.
our forefathers did not run offense against the Crown. they did organize a provisional government to oppose the onslaught of punitive acts taken against them. independence and revolution were not the initial goal.
the July 4, 1776 declaration was over a year after Lexington & Concord.
these experiences gave our founders the wisdom to establish a federation of STATES as a continuous check against imperial overreach.
that is why Flynn is commanding us to take over local control -- our 'provisional' government that can, as the colonies did, Resolve to oppose Intolerable Acts imposed on us by a rogue federal government. this is essential to unity.
DC is more flypaper than Bastille; there's no citadel to storm that would wrest power of money supply and military. protesting illegal mandates and unconstitutional power grabs only legitimizes the usurpers assumed powers. an organized resistance of NON COMPLIANCE, enacted through legitimate local authorities, exceeds the power of an army and is morally defensible.
Yeah I get what you are saying. It’s hard to find that balance, but it just seems like nothing is going our way. It’s worse every day. Nobody does anything about it in our government, and the elites just keep laughing their ass off.
@LockedandLoaded after reading through all of the discussion, I would like to ask? And yes I’m putting you on the spot, but only for educational purposes for you. What do you know about what the Q-posts mean?
So as far as the super detailed decodings, not a whole lot honestly. I try and keep up as best I can by looking at what others have deduced and surmised. I understand the overall Cabal, satanic cult and those aspects of everything. The idea that Q is a plan by Trump and Co to take down the canal once and for all and that basically the argument now is they are all exposing themselves as criminals and Trump/Q are giving them enough rope to hang themselves with. Got all that. I know there is way more to Q but too much to get into all of what I do or do not get entirely.
What I have trouble with at this point is, what are we waiting for? Our Country is being destroyed by the day. It mag already be too late. It’s dangerous for everyone to think the largest covert op of all time is actually going to turn out to be legit, save the day and spare us all from any violence. That mentality leads to the belief that all we have to do is wait. Meanwhile, the Left is actively killing America faster and faster. But just wait, Q is coming. Despite the fact that the “Storm” has been coming for years at this point.
Let me help you with your understanding of Q. What it really means. This will show you, the only way forward is the military. And things must happen in stages.
https://rumble.com/vfj7g1--law-of-war-the-storm-super-proof-special-channel-video-bitchuterumble-excl.html
And if you haven’t read Devolution’s 1-9 parts. It will also bring you up to speed.
https://patelpatriot.substack.com/p/devolution-part-9
I will dig into for sure. I used to follow Q very closely, just got busy. Still keep up to an extent, but it sure seems like not much is going on. And I've heard “the storm is coming” for years now, and with the idea that maybe Q is a Psy-op to subdue us into never taking action, it certainly needs to be considered.
If the only way forward is the military, then why does it appear that our entire military is currently and openly totally corrupt, with Biden and in bed with China? Cant understand that one. Thanks for not immediately being an asshole and laughing at the notion that there may be another reality where Q just might not save us all.
See both links I put on my last reply. Go through both. It explains what you seek.
Absolutely will. Appreciate the links/info. I hope Q is legit. It would be absolutely amazing. Usher in a utopia. Nothing wrong with contingencies.
You need to organize locally, it has to be local. Anything that happens has to be done in the “right way” which means it is shown to the American people we are saving the country not overthrowing the country. If they come to your door to grab your guns I’d say shoot, anything else is not the right way. It’s pure insanity to post things on an open forum like this in my opinion. I personally enjoy my freedom and won’t give it up easily or by doing something stupid.
Well seeing as how I never called for any violence and only pointed out that, hey, the 2A has a purpose and maybe we should realize that we may actually have to use it for it’s intended purpose, I don’t give two fucks about who reads that post. FBI, CIA, NSA, FUCK ALL OF YOU. You corrupt fucks. Your judgment is coming.
If they want to whine about that shit, fuck them. They are all criminal scumbags anyway. Why the hell would I give a fuck what they think? Your freedoms are being eroded by the day, pal. While you sit here trying to figure out the most secret way to avoid pissing off some three letter agent that wants to see you locked up just for being conservative even if you never publicly posted anything.
We've already been told. ** Get involved in your local government. **. Help repair our culture with trickle up elections. We need to pack our school boards, county boards, city council, and state delegates with true conservatives.
I can see now how much power a state delegate has and have researched a bit to see it isn't hard to be a delegate. As a delegate, you’ll help draft the party platform, including making public education a central issue in the upcoming election.
Sharing our ideas within our communities without aggression and without violence is how we spread conservatism. Conservatives need to be organized and fight for every local seat or we will cede the country state by state.
Liberals have two main outlets for their propaganda — schools and the media. That is why they will fight to keep education as government-run and fight school choice.
They are molding the political, moral, and religious opinions of children -- starting in kindergarten. The question is what are we going to do about it??
I hear ya. Open conflict is absolutely a last resort. I’m looking to get involved locally, but we gotta realize that it might take more than that because they have a Vice grip on every facet of power and information and that’s took decades.
If you want to go join those in prison from Jan. 6th, there's nothing stopping you. The feds have even set up a date to make it easy for you. As for me, I'm going to hold the line like Q has asked us to. Patriots are in control.
Respectfully, I keep hearing (reading) people exhorting "us" to gather, to organize, to act, to blah blah blah and on the other hand, we are told DON'T DO IT, IT'S A FALSE FLAG, THEY WANT TO ARREST YOUR BUTT AND PUT YOU IN PRISON, THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE TRUMP SUPPORTERS LOOK BAD.
Well, which is it? If we are to act, how? Who is supposed to be in charge? Because we can't go running out into the night with our torches and pitchforks.
The best wisdom I heard is that the white hats are in charge and we should stay out of their way. I admit to being so confused I'm nearly paralyzed or like the squirrels in the middle of the road trying to figure out what direction to go.
I agree. But who gives a fuck if it’s a false flag to make us look bad? We are beyond that now. If we don’t act, this is all over.
You think the founders thought about political fallout and labels before they tossed the tea overboard, started a war over a 2% tax? Hell no. It’s time to realize that if we keep worrying about what the Left will do if we take a stand, we are done for. If we take a stand and truly stop this, the left won’t be in power or around to do anything. We are very close to now or never, and it is time to actually discuss doing something. Anything to get the ball rolling and inspire others to take a stand.
Contrary to popular belief, our founders didn't start fighting the war until the Brits started literally kicking in their doors and confiscating guns.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1967702
I live in one of the most conservative counties in America. I am not smug about that. The Trump signs around here have never come down. We have already been besieging our state reps. PA is going to have an audit like AZ.
That’s fair. And I hear ya. I know audits are being done, things are happening. But is it enough? If the audits show fraud, will anyone actually do anything? Milley is a traitor and an investigation won’t even be done. Why should we expect our government to give a damn about what the audits say?
I share every one of your concerns. I don't expect the gov't to give a damn. I honestly believe there are white hats in charge. This doesn't mean I think we should just twiddle our thumbs; the Lord helps those who help themselves. I think we need to do what we're being asked to do, which is take over our local gov'ts, school boards etc. This is something that patriots have been trying to get people to do for decades, because if we own our own local gov'ts the federales can't force this crap on us. Here in my county, Sheriff Eric Foy wrote one of the first letters to obama telling him that none of his new gun laws would be enforced here, and that if he sent any of his feds here to try it, they could come bail them out of jail. You NEED your county sheriffs above all. You would never believe how powerful they really are. They can tell the governor of the state to go sit down. Look into it, seriously. If we do our part with our local issues, we will make it a lot easier on the patriots doing the heavy lifting inside the federal garbage can.
I see the value in local transformation and power for sure. But look how long that can take. Do we have that kind of time? I’m not saying we rush to violence despite what some clowns on this thread say, but if we aren’t considering an “entirely on us” scenario, we are being very foolish.
The point is we should have been doing that all along. We have the time UNLESS we really want a bloody civil war. We have to exhaust all other paths before we can go there.
It is not time 3 other boxes must fail before we move the the 4th.
I hear ya. It’s tough because I don’t want to seem like I’m calling for open revolt tomorrow. But if we don’t start to come to grips and deal with the reality that the 4th box is very much in play and would require all of us to courageously take a stand, we may miss the chance for doing so. We need to start discussing, planning, and mentally realizing this is a very possible future if we truly want to do everything we can to save our Country.
The Pentagon did not confirm that Milley committed treason. They confirmed that he made the call, and that IF he did say what was reported, that would be treasonous.
My b. You are right. That said, the real issue is that there doesn’t seem to be anyone who gives a shit. Biden dismissed it. So who will actually do anything about any of this, if not us? Seems like nobody.
Do anything about what, though? What exactly do you want to do something about? Maybe Milley didn't do anything.
Are you serious? Do you not see what is going on and where we are headed if nothing is done? The government is on the brink of having legal precedent for medical tyranny against anyone for anything they deem a threat to public health. They even say racism is a public health issue. How long before conservatives are a threat to public health because they cause mental anxiety to leftists and decide to haul us all off to a nice resort somewhere.
Hold on, pede. I read your post and you began by talking about Milley, then asking what we should do. I'm only responding to the Milley situation.
My bad, friend. Lots of comments coming in. Hard to keep them all straight. My apologies
Pointing fingers and glowie calling is their way of not doing anything.Their are militia groups and mutual assistance groups.They are poorly organized at best.Are their spy's,of course.I have a place outside Amarillo.Have tried for years to establish a group.No takers,not even to check me out.Just a country full of selfish,chicken shits.They didn't support Ruby ridge,Waco,Nevada nor Lavoy Finicum.Cowards.
People need to really wake up and reckon with what we are actually facing here. 2A talk isn’t just talk anymore. It’s very much on the table and from where I stand, the best option. It’s exactly what it is there for. Not saying we start tomorrow or make the first move. But what if we miss the time to do so? Feels like a gamble.
I realize that it is difficult but when or if a time comes to arm yourself and gather, you will certainly know it. That time is not now. Just be ready and hope that time never arrives and this is sorted because if an armed citizenry needs to sort this out it will be bloody chaos with no guarantee of success. Hold the line.
100% agree. Absolutely horrible if it were to happen.
I think getting families into farm agreements would free the men up.As the mandates push people out of their homes, the options will decrease.