Ummmmm......guys, FDA just had an 8 hr conference call. Vax Kills 5 for every 1 life it saves. It's over.
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This is basically an open mic session. The Speaker is Steve Kirsch, and he isn't representing the FDA here. This isn't the smoking gun you think it is, our government isn't acknowledging his statistics just by letting him speak here.
Please don't misconstrue this video to mean something that it isn't. The evidence for his claims isn't presented in his short speech, and he even marks some of his claims as statistically insignificant.
Don't go spreading this as the end all against the vax, since it's not the hard data that it could be.
Anyone on the right side of history who is still worrying about this needs to knock it off and get a clue.
Anything that comes from the Advisory Committee is better than nothing.
Sure, don't misunderstand my position as being for the clot shot. We just need to be very clear as to what this is - at first glance this could easily seem to be more useful of a source than it actually is.
It easily could be better if Dr. Kirsch's sources were provided, but sadly they weren't in this video.
All 119 slides from Kirsch
This is how panels at the FDA work. Experts are invited to present slides/data/evidence, the panel deliberates on said evidence, and makes a decision regarding recommendations.
Even if it is just a comment from an expert, the data presented shoots a fat fucking hole in their efficacy claims.
There's some serious problems with these slides and claims.
I don't disagree with the core principle of these claims, but the reasoning and evidence is very shaky at frequent times. The language is overly informal and not detailed enough at times, and these guys often quote themselves as sources. Not a good look without detailed evidence to go along with it (which, again, is often lacking).
There's a lot of good information in here but you have to be careful. I don't understand why they're choosing to present these claims in such a fashion. There's plenty of perfectly valid evidence here (and elsewhere) against the clot shots but it's just presented in such a poor way that it weakens their core argument.
Yes tread carefully when sharing. It makes us look bad if we act like this is the official FDA position.
My angle is “it’s the deadliest jab in the history of jabs.”
Wonder.cdc.gov
You can search the database yourself and in just the short amount of time the jab has been available, the Pfizer and Moderna shot alone, make up over 55% of all vaccine related deaths reported to VAERS.
Deadliest jab in history.
Oh without a doubt. Someone else told me that it has more deaths than all other vaccines ever combined, but I don't have a source for that.
You’re right but it’s a start at least
For sure.
Damn - we always look dumb being we ourselves spread misinformation
Do they have any obligation to assess a validity or to refute the information presented?
I wouldn't know, but I would STRONGLY presume not given what I watched. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though.
So much bullshit being posted and stickied now.
Sadly this comment reflects the attitude that facts and truth is based on the authority of the people who are saying it.
You don't need to represent FDA to be speaking the truth. All the information shared here by these folks are true and based on actual statistics that cannot be disproven by anyone.
The fact that they are being allowed to share this info in an official, if only as an advisory, setting should be applauded since this makes it easy to get normies to watch it.
I don't know what your definition of smoking gun is, but there has been smoking guns and fires in the backyards all through out the pandemic. The fact that the main stream hides the smoking gun does not mean it does not exist.
Again, you are missing the point. Its not whether the government is acknowledging his statistics or not. Its the opportunity to allow normies to be exposed to the truth. What they do with it is up to them. They might ask "Did someone disprove these facts?" or they might ask "Did this session affect the way FDA voted?"
For the first question - the answer would be "No".
For the second question - the answer would be "FDA denied EUA for boosters for general population, you draw whatever conclusion you like to draw".
If you don't think that this applies to the general public, you're ignorant.
No one has said otherwise, but that doesn't change how this title is insanely misleading and is likely to make people look like idiots when sharing it if they don't do their own due diligence.
It's minor at best. Again, open mic session. It doesn't mean much.
Again, if you can't see the value in stats and facts that the CDC and FDA themselves acknowledge, then you're simply ignorant.
Normies have had access to any facts they want this entire time. The fact that they haven't gone after them is only because they trust the, "official sources." It's that simple.
Wikipedia has already done a hit-piece on him. They've decided everything he has said about spike proteins is untrue, despite having zero study data to even know.
Thank you! People need to keep context in mind before proclaiming things like "its over".