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Ummmmm......guys, FDA just had an 8 hr conference call. Vax Kills 5 for every 1 life it saves. It's over. (sys.4chan.org) 👀 EYES ON! 👀
posted 4 years ago by Newusertopumpmemes 4 years ago by Newusertopumpmemes +844 / -0
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– c9AfEoF1StU7C2j2ZUv1 95 points 4 years ago +95 / -0

This is basically an open mic session. The Speaker is Steve Kirsch, and he isn't representing the FDA here. This isn't the smoking gun you think it is, our government isn't acknowledging his statistics just by letting him speak here.

Please don't misconstrue this video to mean something that it isn't. The evidence for his claims isn't presented in his short speech, and he even marks some of his claims as statistically insignificant.

Don't go spreading this as the end all against the vax, since it's not the hard data that it could be.

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– CQVFEFE 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

we'll look stupid

Anyone on the right side of history who is still worrying about this needs to knock it off and get a clue.

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– GetsTheNogginJoggin 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Anything that comes from the Advisory Committee is better than nothing.

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– c9AfEoF1StU7C2j2ZUv1 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Sure, don't misunderstand my position as being for the clot shot. We just need to be very clear as to what this is - at first glance this could easily seem to be more useful of a source than it actually is.

It easily could be better if Dr. Kirsch's sources were provided, but sadly they weren't in this video.

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– GetsTheNogginJoggin 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

All 119 slides from Kirsch

This is how panels at the FDA work. Experts are invited to present slides/data/evidence, the panel deliberates on said evidence, and makes a decision regarding recommendations.

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– RustyShackleford777 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Even if it is just a comment from an expert, the data presented shoots a fat fucking hole in their efficacy claims.

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– c9AfEoF1StU7C2j2ZUv1 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

There's some serious problems with these slides and claims.

I don't disagree with the core principle of these claims, but the reasoning and evidence is very shaky at frequent times. The language is overly informal and not detailed enough at times, and these guys often quote themselves as sources. Not a good look without detailed evidence to go along with it (which, again, is often lacking).

There's a lot of good information in here but you have to be careful. I don't understand why they're choosing to present these claims in such a fashion. There's plenty of perfectly valid evidence here (and elsewhere) against the clot shots but it's just presented in such a poor way that it weakens their core argument.

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– Donny_Fiasco 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Yes tread carefully when sharing. It makes us look bad if we act like this is the official FDA position.

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– GulagInmate1776 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

My angle is “it’s the deadliest jab in the history of jabs.”

Wonder.cdc.gov

You can search the database yourself and in just the short amount of time the jab has been available, the Pfizer and Moderna shot alone, make up over 55% of all vaccine related deaths reported to VAERS.

Deadliest jab in history.

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– c9AfEoF1StU7C2j2ZUv1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Oh without a doubt. Someone else told me that it has more deaths than all other vaccines ever combined, but I don't have a source for that.

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– krypt0 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Do they have any obligation to assess a validity or to refute the information presented?

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– c9AfEoF1StU7C2j2ZUv1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I wouldn't know, but I would STRONGLY presume not given what I watched. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though.

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– Patriot_Perks 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You’re right but it’s a start at least

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– c9AfEoF1StU7C2j2ZUv1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

For sure.

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