And spare me this was the only way to save the world by pushing vax early. Q didn't discuss this theory, it was created out of thin air as it is the only way to paint Trump in a good light for the vax. The vax is poison, Trump is still pushing the poison. He needs to either push hard against mandates or shut the fuck up.
I admit it, this topic gets me going every time. I just doesn't sit well with me. I would love to have this conversation with Trump himself. I just have trouble with the logic of continuing to push the jab.
Of course, he isn't really pushing it, he is saying he would sell people on it if he were POTUS, he isn't really imploring us to get it.
I asked a friend of mine while we were discussing this if Trump saying we should get vaxed would change her mind? She said NO. I said there you have it. Trump knows the ones part of this movement have the ability to think for themselves.
I am sure his statements won't change our minds. I just think there are people on the fence that are not as awake as we are that may be swayed. I could be wrong.
It's simple. The left say the right are brainwashed and will do whatever Trump says.
Trump says take the vaccine. The "brainwashed" right say no, the "Free thinking" left hesitate because they're conditioned to reject anything he says, whatever it is.
I fully agree. Even if he is playing “4D chess”, it doesn’t justify the push for these vaccines. A just response would be along the lines of “we’ve created these genetic therapies, and they haven’t met the standards required by any vaccine in history. We’re making them available on an emergency basis to those that want them, but be fully aware that they are experimental and may pose short and long term risks.”
But we haven’t seen that from anyone. I appreciate that he’s stating they should be voluntary, but his language is very much that everyone should take them and we need to be convinced.
He definitely DID push it early on when he made statements that everyone should get it. It is only very recently, and after getting booed by his supporters that he added that we have to have our freedom.
You can make the claim that Trump was(is?) our best President for reasons XYZ and even say there is an unknown reason for his present and prior position on the poison jabs but no one can claim he doesn't know what is in those vials while simultaneously claiming that "he has it all" based on other high level military intelligence he had access to and no one can claim that he never pushed and promoted them for everyone because the simple fact is that he did.
You are crazy if you don’t think his silence and approval of the vaccines haven’t led many on the fence to go schedule their shot, I live in PA. A huge red county that was 85% Trump country in the elections and over 70% of adults here have gotten the jab, what does that tell you?
I said it above, but I know 5 people who got vaxxed because Trump was pushing it. they were worried it wasn't safe, but trust Trump more than anyone else. They're still fools.
Clearly he thinks people do this - he said exactly that. I have no doubt people trust Trump (I did) and look to him for advice. Remember him talking about Hydroxychloroquine?
Trump knows at least as much, and likely more, about the risks of the vaccines than we do. Do you think Trump would deliberately encourage people to expose themselves to long term health risks?
The reality is, based on the information publicly available, that the long term effects of the vax are unknown. It’s also known that it’s statistically more dangerous to younger people than covid is.
There may be a larger game being played here, but with all the info available to us there is 0 logic to his stance. I’d go as far as to say that unless he has personally verified evidence that the vax is designed to protect us from another weapon that China has yet to release (or some similar situation where this vax protects the greater population from a direct threat) then his actions are culpable in this whole fiasco.
Do you think the people reporting vax injuries are lying? Of course we want to believe in Trump. That doesn't negate the demand that we accept reality in front of our faces. I only know one person harmed by the jab so far but a stroke 2 days after injection in an otherwise healthy person is not enough of a coincidence where I'm gonna say "But Trump said they're safe and I know for sure he's a good guy."
Absolutely. He has the bully pulpit even though he's not president. People will be and have been talked into this because of what he's said. And he's out of office now - why is he pushing it?
Remember when Trump used to be against vaccines in kids? This was a tweet of his from 28 March 2014:
Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!
Another from 22 October 2012:
Autism rates through the roof -- why doesn't the Obama administration do something about doctor-inflicted autism. We lose nothing to try.
In 2018 autism affected 1 in 54 kids, this year it's 1 in 40, what's it going to be in 10 years? Idiot parents don't think twice and pump their babies and kids up with these poisons because the doctor says so. Even my own mother in law threatened to take my kids and shoot em up full of vaccines because she thought I was nuts being an anti-vaxxer. She's apologized since because her other grandchildren now suffer from autism (heavily vaxxed).
Maybe if these same parents were personally affected they wouldn't be such staunch supporters of these vaccines anymore. How many stories of children being harmed by big pharma have been swept under the rug or just downright denied if you bring them up? Everyone had an opinion of vaccines before this: you're either one of those lunatic anti-vaxxers or you're a "normal" unquestioning person who believes in the system. If you were on the fence, you weren't paying close enough attention. Now everyone has taken a side and those who were jabbed all have skin in the game. Think of how furious they will be when they learn the truth? Just maybe after all this we can stop systemically poisoning our children.
TLDR: When children suffer from skyrocketing autism rates, the majority do not question why. So many parent's own children become vaccinated and change and yet the parents keep defending the system. Now that those same people are being directly affected, how many of them will still defend the system? This is about our future, how can we have a country if all our kids are sick and mentally messed up? Trump knows all of this. Everything he does is for America's future.
Your theory is Trump is pushing the vaccines so more people will take them, and then get injured, and be mad at...the government? Themselves?
I'm not sure I follow that. I would be angry at everyone who told me it was safe, from Fauci on down to the media and including people like Trump. If my 14 year old daughter was wheelchair bound, probably for life, after a shot - I wouldn't be able to fogive him, and I wouldn't be able to forgive myself.
Maybe that's the point. If Trump said don't take the vax, no one would take it because it's "his" vax right? Then none of the sheep would learn to stop blindly trusting big pharma/media/politicians/etc. and nothing is solved-in fact it gives the gov. the excuse to continue lockdowns. Trump would not be able to remain silent on the vax being such a public person that he is. I mean he could reject all interviews or ignore all questions regarding the vax, it would be odd. Such an omission would be viewed the same as him saying "my vax doesn't work". This leads to no one taking the vaccine and then the sheeple do not wake up from the big pharma chokehold they have over them and in a few decades time, most children will be vax injured and autistic.
It's like suddenly turning up the heat to max when you're trying to slow boil the frog. Whoever gets injured from the vax now is saving the future generation from the slow boiling genocide of the future. You should be pissed, and that's the goal. A nation pissed at the powers to be. Then we will see real change.
sure it makes sense, but it is a theory pulled out of thin air by anons. Further if this is the death shot and kills 10%+ who take it, it won't make sense any more. Trump's initial support of the jab and warp speed sure, but at this point with all the data out he could simply stay quiet about this subject, he no longer needs to promote it.
'Operation warp speed' was about accelerating the derp states plans so that the water would heat quickly enough for the frogs to realize versus being slowly boiled alive.
The worldwide pushback is the result of 'turning into the torpedo'.
Trump is taking the whole system down. The WHOLE system. That includes Big Pharma. Q said class action lawsuits are very effective. How many people would be involved? Big Pharma is going to be bled dry and guess where that money is going? To the people who got wrongly jabbed.
I'd prefer my health over splitting 100 billion dollars with 2 billion people. Hell, at even 1 trillion, you split it up among everyone who has taken the jab and it's still peanuts. No freaking thanks. Yes, it'll destroy big pharma, but the compensation isn't worth it. I'll keep my health.
I wondered about this too. Do we sacrifice the health of billions to destroy big pharma? Wow. And this was the president, it was said, who didn't want to use the insurrection act because there would be too much collateral damage....
And spare me this was the only way to save the world by pushing vax early. Q didn't discuss this theory, it was created out of thin air as it is the only way to paint Trump in a good light for the vax. The vax is poison, Trump is still pushing the poison. He needs to either push hard against mandates or shut the fuck up.
Trump taught 80 million Americans to think for themselves and not trust the "elites"
He's playing chess on a level you couldn't fathom, just chill
I admit it, this topic gets me going every time. I just doesn't sit well with me. I would love to have this conversation with Trump himself. I just have trouble with the logic of continuing to push the jab.
Of course, he isn't really pushing it, he is saying he would sell people on it if he were POTUS, he isn't really imploring us to get it.
It's almost like he wants people to think for themselves instead of blindly doing what he tells them.
As long as he keeps talking about my right to not take it... I have zero issues.
I asked a friend of mine while we were discussing this if Trump saying we should get vaxed would change her mind? She said NO. I said there you have it. Trump knows the ones part of this movement have the ability to think for themselves.
I am sure his statements won't change our minds. I just think there are people on the fence that are not as awake as we are that may be swayed. I could be wrong.
It's simple. The left say the right are brainwashed and will do whatever Trump says.
Trump says take the vaccine. The "brainwashed" right say no, the "Free thinking" left hesitate because they're conditioned to reject anything he says, whatever it is.
I fully agree. Even if he is playing “4D chess”, it doesn’t justify the push for these vaccines. A just response would be along the lines of “we’ve created these genetic therapies, and they haven’t met the standards required by any vaccine in history. We’re making them available on an emergency basis to those that want them, but be fully aware that they are experimental and may pose short and long term risks.”
But we haven’t seen that from anyone. I appreciate that he’s stating they should be voluntary, but his language is very much that everyone should take them and we need to be convinced.
He definitely DID push it early on when he made statements that everyone should get it. It is only very recently, and after getting booed by his supporters that he added that we have to have our freedom.
You can make the claim that Trump was(is?) our best President for reasons XYZ and even say there is an unknown reason for his present and prior position on the poison jabs but no one can claim he doesn't know what is in those vials while simultaneously claiming that "he has it all" based on other high level military intelligence he had access to and no one can claim that he never pushed and promoted them for everyone because the simple fact is that he did.
But some people will listen to him blindly and open themselves up to great longterm health risks.
IT'S BULLSHIT
please introduce me to someone who makes personal health decisions bc Donald Trump told them to
You are crazy if you don’t think his silence and approval of the vaccines haven’t led many on the fence to go schedule their shot, I live in PA. A huge red county that was 85% Trump country in the elections and over 70% of adults here have gotten the jab, what does that tell you?
I said it above, but I know 5 people who got vaxxed because Trump was pushing it. they were worried it wasn't safe, but trust Trump more than anyone else. They're still fools.
Clearly he thinks people do this - he said exactly that. I have no doubt people trust Trump (I did) and look to him for advice. Remember him talking about Hydroxychloroquine?
Trump knows at least as much, and likely more, about the risks of the vaccines than we do. Do you think Trump would deliberately encourage people to expose themselves to long term health risks?
Maybe... every other politician is doing it.
The reality is, based on the information publicly available, that the long term effects of the vax are unknown. It’s also known that it’s statistically more dangerous to younger people than covid is.
There may be a larger game being played here, but with all the info available to us there is 0 logic to his stance. I’d go as far as to say that unless he has personally verified evidence that the vax is designed to protect us from another weapon that China has yet to release (or some similar situation where this vax protects the greater population from a direct threat) then his actions are culpable in this whole fiasco.
I would hope not.......
But his continuing push for the jab make ZERO SENSE
Do you think the people reporting vax injuries are lying? Of course we want to believe in Trump. That doesn't negate the demand that we accept reality in front of our faces. I only know one person harmed by the jab so far but a stroke 2 days after injection in an otherwise healthy person is not enough of a coincidence where I'm gonna say "But Trump said they're safe and I know for sure he's a good guy."
Can you explain this? Because this is exactly what's happening.
Absolutely. He has the bully pulpit even though he's not president. People will be and have been talked into this because of what he's said. And he's out of office now - why is he pushing it?
Stop with that bullshit
Remember when Trump used to be against vaccines in kids? This was a tweet of his from 28 March 2014:
Another from 22 October 2012:
In 2018 autism affected 1 in 54 kids, this year it's 1 in 40, what's it going to be in 10 years? Idiot parents don't think twice and pump their babies and kids up with these poisons because the doctor says so. Even my own mother in law threatened to take my kids and shoot em up full of vaccines because she thought I was nuts being an anti-vaxxer. She's apologized since because her other grandchildren now suffer from autism (heavily vaxxed).
Maybe if these same parents were personally affected they wouldn't be such staunch supporters of these vaccines anymore. How many stories of children being harmed by big pharma have been swept under the rug or just downright denied if you bring them up? Everyone had an opinion of vaccines before this: you're either one of those lunatic anti-vaxxers or you're a "normal" unquestioning person who believes in the system. If you were on the fence, you weren't paying close enough attention. Now everyone has taken a side and those who were jabbed all have skin in the game. Think of how furious they will be when they learn the truth? Just maybe after all this we can stop systemically poisoning our children.
TLDR: When children suffer from skyrocketing autism rates, the majority do not question why. So many parent's own children become vaccinated and change and yet the parents keep defending the system. Now that those same people are being directly affected, how many of them will still defend the system? This is about our future, how can we have a country if all our kids are sick and mentally messed up? Trump knows all of this. Everything he does is for America's future.
Your theory is Trump is pushing the vaccines so more people will take them, and then get injured, and be mad at...the government? Themselves?
I'm not sure I follow that. I would be angry at everyone who told me it was safe, from Fauci on down to the media and including people like Trump. If my 14 year old daughter was wheelchair bound, probably for life, after a shot - I wouldn't be able to fogive him, and I wouldn't be able to forgive myself.
Maybe that's the point. If Trump said don't take the vax, no one would take it because it's "his" vax right? Then none of the sheep would learn to stop blindly trusting big pharma/media/politicians/etc. and nothing is solved-in fact it gives the gov. the excuse to continue lockdowns. Trump would not be able to remain silent on the vax being such a public person that he is. I mean he could reject all interviews or ignore all questions regarding the vax, it would be odd. Such an omission would be viewed the same as him saying "my vax doesn't work". This leads to no one taking the vaccine and then the sheeple do not wake up from the big pharma chokehold they have over them and in a few decades time, most children will be vax injured and autistic.
It's like suddenly turning up the heat to max when you're trying to slow boil the frog. Whoever gets injured from the vax now is saving the future generation from the slow boiling genocide of the future. You should be pissed, and that's the goal. A nation pissed at the powers to be. Then we will see real change.
I hope people read the article & the comments at the end. VERY THOUGHT PROVOKING.
Red October -> Sub turns into the torpedo to prevent it from destroying them
Operation Warpspeed -> Turn into the torpedo to prevent it from destroying us
Makes sense to me.
sure it makes sense, but it is a theory pulled out of thin air by anons. Further if this is the death shot and kills 10%+ who take it, it won't make sense any more. Trump's initial support of the jab and warp speed sure, but at this point with all the data out he could simply stay quiet about this subject, he no longer needs to promote it.
'Operation warp speed' was about accelerating the derp states plans so that the water would heat quickly enough for the frogs to realize versus being slowly boiled alive.
The worldwide pushback is the result of 'turning into the torpedo'.
Trump is taking the whole system down. The WHOLE system. That includes Big Pharma. Q said class action lawsuits are very effective. How many people would be involved? Big Pharma is going to be bled dry and guess where that money is going? To the people who got wrongly jabbed.
I'd prefer my health over splitting 100 billion dollars with 2 billion people. Hell, at even 1 trillion, you split it up among everyone who has taken the jab and it's still peanuts. No freaking thanks. Yes, it'll destroy big pharma, but the compensation isn't worth it. I'll keep my health.
I wondered about this too. Do we sacrifice the health of billions to destroy big pharma? Wow. And this was the president, it was said, who didn't want to use the insurrection act because there would be too much collateral damage....