Hand them what they already took right before your eyes? All voting does now so provide an air of legitimacy. I struggle to imagine that you're not shilling.
OP did a bang up job explaining his rationale… did you even bother reading it?
It boils down to this: if we hadn’t voted in droves in 2020, we’d be screwed. The whole “election fraud isn’t real” narrative of the left would have won outright.
If we sit out 2022, they don’t even have to cheat to win - they’ll win legitimately and we’ll have zero recourse.
So, two pieces of advice:
Quit being an ignoramus
Don’t call people shills simply because they see things a different way than you do. That’s leftist tactics bullshit, and you need to be better than they are.
I read it thoroughly. How else would I recognize it for the absolute dipshit dreck that it is? Yeah, it was needed for 2020 to show absolute proof of the rigging. It is no longer needed. I don't need a second video of a murderer doing his thing before I hang him.
No one ever again wins legitimately until 2020 is fixed. We are a conquered, occupied country, and they will happily pacify you cowards with elections as long as you're willing to keep playing that game. Not me. If there is a plan, let it unfold. Otherwise, bring the pain. The quicker we bring it to a head and have it resolved, the better.
Me an ignoramus? Be glad I'm wasting my time on this retarded thread. I provide a rare ray of light in the context of such idiocy!
I did not insist it was shilling. I allowed for the possibility of stupidity and ignorance being the cause. That, however, exhausts the options. Why don't all you "let's vote harder next time" morons come play poker with me weekly? Keep on this track and I'd own you more thoroughly than Biden does already!
Ha! If you only knew! But we certainly won't make progress turning this into more of a "pissing contest", will we?
In any case, let's set the rest aside for a moment. In retrospect, I let my frustrations get the better of me today. I maintain my general position, but I acknowledge that my behavior left some to be desired. We all have our own opinions. I am confident I could make my case much more convincingly, but I am spread a bit too thin presently to do it justice. I probably should have abstained from posting in this thread at this time.
Unless something changes, I will not be voting until the rigging and fraud has been addressed, up to and including the 2020 election. In truth, I believe the fraud goes much farther back, and it is truly a mess to untangle. We all need to work together on untangling all of that, and there are bound to be some heated discussions. But particularly when I do not have time to make my position clear, I should probably abstain from overly passionate reactions.
So our differences on this topic remain, but I sincerely apologize for my tone. It was disrespectful, and I should have been more humble.
If this is the case, supporting republicans anyway will give them no incentive to change. They know they’ll win so it doesn’t look obvious. Democrats will keep power just barely and even let a change of power from time to time and we go on.
You are being "fucking stupid". They already won. The voting game is over. We have way more evidence than needed to conclusively prove fraud. More proof is only more damage to the country. There are principles in law about claiming you were cheated while continuing to do business: it implies you don't really think you were cheated.
I fear you're falling into the mistakes I made in this thread: letting your frustrations and emotions get the better of you. I have already apologized in several places which perhaps you have not seen. So, again, I should have abstained from this thread earlier. I wasn't able to give a proper account of my perspective and was not at my best. I'm sorry for that.
To your point, briefly, I would argue that you are playing like checkers. It is an old adage in the USA that we have three boxes to maintain our rights and freedoms: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. We're past the ballot box, and voting does nothing but harm, in my opinion, until 2020 and all other fraud/rigging is thoroughly addressed. I will not participate in rigged games, be they checkers or nth-dimensional chess. God willing, we still have opportunity to address the treason and tyranny via the jury box, probably military tribunals. Further, there is precedent in law which basically indicates that by continuing to participate in something you are implying that your grievances have already been addressed. At this point, taking local control, hoping for the best, and preparing for the worst sends the right message. Continuing to vote in rigged elections communicates that you are a willing participant in the rigged, fake voting.
You're entitled to a different opinion, and I might at a later date make a more substantive post on the matter, which may or may not convince you.
I might add that, in a sense, you cannot vote until the elections are secured and the previous fraud/rigging is addressed. The very definition of voting does not allow for pretending to vote while someone/something else actually decides and your "vote" means absolutely nothing. Anything to gain from showing strong in a rigged election was already gained. Doing it over is a fool's errand, in my opinion. Frankly, I thought that so obvious that it provoked me to misbehave earlier.
Don't mistake my being emphatic when the house is on fire as me not being kind. Call it tough love. But my goodness! To think we need MORE evidence of election rigging is to downplay the ample existing evidence! To do that is to slide in the direction of the Marxist narrative! This is not the time to buy into their lies and play their games! This is the time to stand strong, to hold the line! How can you not see this?!
2020 was as blatantly stolen as you're ever going to see. If there is a plan, 2020 was enough to set it off. If there is not a plan, accelerate. Better they get their fight before they're ready for it. We only win with God. Don't pretend you can wrestle with the Devil yourself to fix the evil in the world.
I wish you well, too. All of you, even if some be shills. We are all God's children. But we are not all the best at strategy. Resetting to the 2020 field is a mistake that will cost us dearly. If there is a plan, as we all hope, let them, too, know that we demand 2020 be fixed! That is the law of the land! No plan that allows such fraud to stand is itself Constitutional. 2020 MUST be fixed before any voting.
Yes, telling people to play along with sham voting in an enemy controlled country standing in place of your dead country, thus legitimizing it, is either foolish or shilling.
The cheaters already had their free win, and so far there has been very little consequence. There are promising appearances of trends, all of which could be wholly manufactured to keep you complacent. If there is a plan in place, which we all hope, it does not need you to vote again in rigged elections. If it does, it is a stupid plan. If that is the plan, I say go accelerationism. It will bring war before they've fully consolidated their position.
Your argument is basically to repeat November 3rd, 2020, forever. Win, get the results as if you lost, then cry about it while a foreign, illegitimate power runs your country into the ground.
17 days ago, you say?! 17?!?! Jk! :D But I suggest you check again. If you see the same still, you might want to call it to the attention of the mods. There are very few people here who arrived before me. It is true I lurk mostly, but there have been posts and numerous comments.
Interesting aside: you suggest ignoring those who disagree with you and present no argument. I saw the same on an anti-Q Reddit forum and marveled at the willful ignorance. It is a sad thing to see it here. It is a sad thing to see anywhere. The divisive tactics must be effective.
Finally, as I said elsewhere, I should not have posted in this thread today. I did not have time to make my best case, and I let my frustrations get the better of me. I cannot promise it won't happen again, but I apologize for that and will try to do better.
Edit: If anyone would like to pay me to post here, I could use the money! But I require that I only post what I wish! ;p
Hand them what they already took right before your eyes? All voting does now so provide an air of legitimacy. I struggle to imagine that you're not shilling.
Wow, you’re so lost.
OP did a bang up job explaining his rationale… did you even bother reading it?
It boils down to this: if we hadn’t voted in droves in 2020, we’d be screwed. The whole “election fraud isn’t real” narrative of the left would have won outright.
If we sit out 2022, they don’t even have to cheat to win - they’ll win legitimately and we’ll have zero recourse.
So, two pieces of advice:
Quit being an ignoramus
Don’t call people shills simply because they see things a different way than you do. That’s leftist tactics bullshit, and you need to be better than they are.
I read it thoroughly. How else would I recognize it for the absolute dipshit dreck that it is? Yeah, it was needed for 2020 to show absolute proof of the rigging. It is no longer needed. I don't need a second video of a murderer doing his thing before I hang him.
No one ever again wins legitimately until 2020 is fixed. We are a conquered, occupied country, and they will happily pacify you cowards with elections as long as you're willing to keep playing that game. Not me. If there is a plan, let it unfold. Otherwise, bring the pain. The quicker we bring it to a head and have it resolved, the better.
Me an ignoramus? Be glad I'm wasting my time on this retarded thread. I provide a rare ray of light in the context of such idiocy!
I did not insist it was shilling. I allowed for the possibility of stupidity and ignorance being the cause. That, however, exhausts the options. Why don't all you "let's vote harder next time" morons come play poker with me weekly? Keep on this track and I'd own you more thoroughly than Biden does already!
Dunning-Krueger much?
Ha! If you only knew! But we certainly won't make progress turning this into more of a "pissing contest", will we?
In any case, let's set the rest aside for a moment. In retrospect, I let my frustrations get the better of me today. I maintain my general position, but I acknowledge that my behavior left some to be desired. We all have our own opinions. I am confident I could make my case much more convincingly, but I am spread a bit too thin presently to do it justice. I probably should have abstained from posting in this thread at this time.
Unless something changes, I will not be voting until the rigging and fraud has been addressed, up to and including the 2020 election. In truth, I believe the fraud goes much farther back, and it is truly a mess to untangle. We all need to work together on untangling all of that, and there are bound to be some heated discussions. But particularly when I do not have time to make my position clear, I should probably abstain from overly passionate reactions.
So our differences on this topic remain, but I sincerely apologize for my tone. It was disrespectful, and I should have been more humble.
If this is the case, supporting republicans anyway will give them no incentive to change. They know they’ll win so it doesn’t look obvious. Democrats will keep power just barely and even let a change of power from time to time and we go on.
If you don’t vote, they won’t even have to cheat. Don’t be fucking stupid.
You are being "fucking stupid". They already won. The voting game is over. We have way more evidence than needed to conclusively prove fraud. More proof is only more damage to the country. There are principles in law about claiming you were cheated while continuing to do business: it implies you don't really think you were cheated.
No, it implies that you’re not a bitch who is going to just give up. This isn’t a game of fucking checkers, you fuck.
I fear you're falling into the mistakes I made in this thread: letting your frustrations and emotions get the better of you. I have already apologized in several places which perhaps you have not seen. So, again, I should have abstained from this thread earlier. I wasn't able to give a proper account of my perspective and was not at my best. I'm sorry for that.
To your point, briefly, I would argue that you are playing like checkers. It is an old adage in the USA that we have three boxes to maintain our rights and freedoms: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. We're past the ballot box, and voting does nothing but harm, in my opinion, until 2020 and all other fraud/rigging is thoroughly addressed. I will not participate in rigged games, be they checkers or nth-dimensional chess. God willing, we still have opportunity to address the treason and tyranny via the jury box, probably military tribunals. Further, there is precedent in law which basically indicates that by continuing to participate in something you are implying that your grievances have already been addressed. At this point, taking local control, hoping for the best, and preparing for the worst sends the right message. Continuing to vote in rigged elections communicates that you are a willing participant in the rigged, fake voting.
You're entitled to a different opinion, and I might at a later date make a more substantive post on the matter, which may or may not convince you.
I might add that, in a sense, you cannot vote until the elections are secured and the previous fraud/rigging is addressed. The very definition of voting does not allow for pretending to vote while someone/something else actually decides and your "vote" means absolutely nothing. Anything to gain from showing strong in a rigged election was already gained. Doing it over is a fool's errand, in my opinion. Frankly, I thought that so obvious that it provoked me to misbehave earlier.
Heart of a warrior. Patience of a Saint. God bless you.
Don't mistake my being emphatic when the house is on fire as me not being kind. Call it tough love. But my goodness! To think we need MORE evidence of election rigging is to downplay the ample existing evidence! To do that is to slide in the direction of the Marxist narrative! This is not the time to buy into their lies and play their games! This is the time to stand strong, to hold the line! How can you not see this?!
2020 was as blatantly stolen as you're ever going to see. If there is a plan, 2020 was enough to set it off. If there is not a plan, accelerate. Better they get their fight before they're ready for it. We only win with God. Don't pretend you can wrestle with the Devil yourself to fix the evil in the world.
I wish you well, too. All of you, even if some be shills. We are all God's children. But we are not all the best at strategy. Resetting to the 2020 field is a mistake that will cost us dearly. If there is a plan, as we all hope, let them, too, know that we demand 2020 be fixed! That is the law of the land! No plan that allows such fraud to stand is itself Constitutional. 2020 MUST be fixed before any voting.
Telling people to vote thereby forcing the cheaters to cheat super hard making the fraud clam easy to make as it's demonstrably true = shill
Telling people not to vote thereby giving the cheaters a free win where we can't complain about fraud because they didn't steal it = not a shill
Honk honk 🤡
Yes, telling people to play along with sham voting in an enemy controlled country standing in place of your dead country, thus legitimizing it, is either foolish or shilling.
The cheaters already had their free win, and so far there has been very little consequence. There are promising appearances of trends, all of which could be wholly manufactured to keep you complacent. If there is a plan in place, which we all hope, it does not need you to vote again in rigged elections. If it does, it is a stupid plan. If that is the plan, I say go accelerationism. It will bring war before they've fully consolidated their position.
Your argument is basically to repeat November 3rd, 2020, forever. Win, get the results as if you lost, then cry about it while a foreign, illegitimate power runs your country into the ground.
RealTrumpsThirdTerm started commenting 17 days ago and has no posts. I believe RealTrumpsThirdTerm is a paid shill. Ignore him/her.
17 days ago, you say?! 17?!?! Jk! :D But I suggest you check again. If you see the same still, you might want to call it to the attention of the mods. There are very few people here who arrived before me. It is true I lurk mostly, but there have been posts and numerous comments.
Interesting aside: you suggest ignoring those who disagree with you and present no argument. I saw the same on an anti-Q Reddit forum and marveled at the willful ignorance. It is a sad thing to see it here. It is a sad thing to see anywhere. The divisive tactics must be effective.
Finally, as I said elsewhere, I should not have posted in this thread today. I did not have time to make my best case, and I let my frustrations get the better of me. I cannot promise it won't happen again, but I apologize for that and will try to do better.
Edit: If anyone would like to pay me to post here, I could use the money! But I require that I only post what I wish! ;p