"i dont have a choice" thats where you are wrong. Everyone has free will. Everyone has a choice. When you lose what ive lost, such a reality becomes crystal clear.
If you forfeit your principles, that's on you. No one else.
I served 24 years and constantly bucked the system to uphold what was right, whether for myself or one of my men. I didn't make the "good ol boys club" for doing it, and it cost me a senior promotion in rank and positions. My men always knew at the end of the day that 'ol Sarge would take a flamethrower to the face for them before I'd allow them to be some assholes scapegoat. All this with a wife and 3 kids raised during that time.
Sacrificing integrity and honor for a crust of bread as an excuse will gain no sympathy here.
You have chosen your path. Walk it. Own it. Don't piss and moan for understanding.
What makes you think I don’t? Do it every day brother….
Just because I chose to take the placebo vaccine negates the fact that I raise hell about it all day? Trust me, I don’t like the fact I took it and was forced to take it (yes it is very much forced). But god damn you people are so fucking predictable…. “Back in my day i’d have knocked that CO out for even looking at me.” But it’s always the ones drawing a pension that are first to run their mouths. Have you shown your support by turning your pension down yet like you’re expecting me to?
To answer your question: They didnt try this BS when I was in except for the Anthrax which I flatly refused. They threatened me, as expected they would. Long story short, I was legally right, they were wrong, stayed in charge of 485 men and women, and I still deployed many times over never got the Anthrax.
Takes 2 things to tell them to get fucked: 1) Balls to do it, 2) knowing what the Hell you're talking about when you tell them to shove it up their ass. Leave no room for wiggle on their end while your end is tighter than a frog's ass. This is where knowing the Regulations, both Military and Civilian (OSHA, specifically) comes into play. Just because we wore the uniform does NOT mean we had our God given rights removed as reinforced by the Bill of Rights.
Forcing a military member to get an experimental drug/vax is an unlawful order and if those of you making excuses knew this, there'd be a hell of a lot less of this BS flying around. Our Oath is to the US Constitution, not goddamn Big Pharma and those suckin their dicks for kick-backs and cushy jobs.
Afterword: the "back in my day...." comment was a childish assumption. I would never strike an officer or anyone else UNLESS they initiated contact. It's called respect for the rank, even if you dont have respect for the man wearing it.
As for the military pension, it was never once in the skillet. However, I did transition directly back into working for the military as a DoD contractor and I gotta say, the pay and benefits ain't nothing to sneeze at. Straight up told my lead that if the Company ever says we have to get this goddamn thing, he'd better have paperwork to fire me because I will not be getting jabbed by these sadistic MFers, ever. He gave me a long look and just said, "Noted". So yeh, in this aspect I'd be giving up a second pension, 401k, additional healthcare, dental, optometry, 2 weeks paid leave/yr, and a job I love. BUT, like in the military, I know my shit, do top work, and am one of 2 trainers for the work we do for the company. Pretty sure I aint goin anywhere and, if it did, ciest la vie....fuck'em...their loss would be bigger than mine in the long run.
Just curious how you know you took a ‘placebo’ vaccine...? We’re you being told it was just saline by your superior?
Earlier you said you had taken the vaccine - now it was definitely a placebo, can you explain?
I’m all for going to a doctors office and having them shoot my jab into the garbage and then giving me a vaxxed card so I don’t have to deal with all this bullshit. I’d say you got a good deal if that’s basically what you were offered.
No, I call it a placebo because the thing clearly doesn’t work nor seem to do anything useful other than cause side effects. I didn’t mean a true placebo.
I’ll tell you though, I had actual COVID and do think I developed heart issues from it. After the vax, I think it might have reaggrevated whatever was going on (probably myocarditis) but now has seemingly disappeared. Getting my heart checked out though
Look, I get it. If you’re making $40 and hour somewhere it’s not a lot to lose and start over. What I do, if I were to quit I’d at minimum lose $250-$300k over the next year and a half while doing a similar job.
Which brings me back to my original point. Don’t chastise me for something our dear leader Donald J promotes and has admittedly done himself. I don’t agree with the mandates and I’m actively fighting against that. But for real, the narrative that the military has turned on the citizens is fucking bogus and it makes this place sound like a fucking fringe site. You guys have no idea.
Sorry for calling you a faggot I only use it on people a like
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Not saying you’re wrong. I’m gambling to keep millions of $ in play for my family. $2.4m to be exact. Willing to take the risk
"i dont have a choice" thats where you are wrong. Everyone has free will. Everyone has a choice. When you lose what ive lost, such a reality becomes crystal clear.
If you forfeit your principles, that's on you. No one else.
Ok Tom Brady.
I served 24 years and constantly bucked the system to uphold what was right, whether for myself or one of my men. I didn't make the "good ol boys club" for doing it, and it cost me a senior promotion in rank and positions. My men always knew at the end of the day that 'ol Sarge would take a flamethrower to the face for them before I'd allow them to be some assholes scapegoat. All this with a wife and 3 kids raised during that time.
Sacrificing integrity and honor for a crust of bread as an excuse will gain no sympathy here.
You have chosen your path. Walk it. Own it. Don't piss and moan for understanding.
What makes you think I don’t? Do it every day brother…. Just because I chose to take the placebo vaccine negates the fact that I raise hell about it all day? Trust me, I don’t like the fact I took it and was forced to take it (yes it is very much forced). But god damn you people are so fucking predictable…. “Back in my day i’d have knocked that CO out for even looking at me.” But it’s always the ones drawing a pension that are first to run their mouths. Have you shown your support by turning your pension down yet like you’re expecting me to?
To answer your question: They didnt try this BS when I was in except for the Anthrax which I flatly refused. They threatened me, as expected they would. Long story short, I was legally right, they were wrong, stayed in charge of 485 men and women, and I still deployed many times over never got the Anthrax.
Takes 2 things to tell them to get fucked: 1) Balls to do it, 2) knowing what the Hell you're talking about when you tell them to shove it up their ass. Leave no room for wiggle on their end while your end is tighter than a frog's ass. This is where knowing the Regulations, both Military and Civilian (OSHA, specifically) comes into play. Just because we wore the uniform does NOT mean we had our God given rights removed as reinforced by the Bill of Rights.
Forcing a military member to get an experimental drug/vax is an unlawful order and if those of you making excuses knew this, there'd be a hell of a lot less of this BS flying around. Our Oath is to the US Constitution, not goddamn Big Pharma and those suckin their dicks for kick-backs and cushy jobs.
Afterword: the "back in my day...." comment was a childish assumption. I would never strike an officer or anyone else UNLESS they initiated contact. It's called respect for the rank, even if you dont have respect for the man wearing it.
As for the military pension, it was never once in the skillet. However, I did transition directly back into working for the military as a DoD contractor and I gotta say, the pay and benefits ain't nothing to sneeze at. Straight up told my lead that if the Company ever says we have to get this goddamn thing, he'd better have paperwork to fire me because I will not be getting jabbed by these sadistic MFers, ever. He gave me a long look and just said, "Noted". So yeh, in this aspect I'd be giving up a second pension, 401k, additional healthcare, dental, optometry, 2 weeks paid leave/yr, and a job I love. BUT, like in the military, I know my shit, do top work, and am one of 2 trainers for the work we do for the company. Pretty sure I aint goin anywhere and, if it did, ciest la vie....fuck'em...their loss would be bigger than mine in the long run.
Just curious how you know you took a ‘placebo’ vaccine...? We’re you being told it was just saline by your superior?
Earlier you said you had taken the vaccine - now it was definitely a placebo, can you explain?
I’m all for going to a doctors office and having them shoot my jab into the garbage and then giving me a vaxxed card so I don’t have to deal with all this bullshit. I’d say you got a good deal if that’s basically what you were offered.
No, I call it a placebo because the thing clearly doesn’t work nor seem to do anything useful other than cause side effects. I didn’t mean a true placebo.
I’ll tell you though, I had actual COVID and do think I developed heart issues from it. After the vax, I think it might have reaggrevated whatever was going on (probably myocarditis) but now has seemingly disappeared. Getting my heart checked out though
Addendum to "Balls": https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/12000-air-force-personnel-including-elite-pilots-have-rejected-vax-order-tuesday-deadline
Pilots to maintenance personnel risking it all. This is how its done. Air Force leading the way.
I’m a Pilot…. The navy is coming at us harder than the other branches. Have confirmed this with Air Force and Army guys.
The only pilots that have refused are those that are already past retirement age or those who thought going to the airlines would save them.
Look, I get it. If you’re making $40 and hour somewhere it’s not a lot to lose and start over. What I do, if I were to quit I’d at minimum lose $250-$300k over the next year and a half while doing a similar job.
Which brings me back to my original point. Don’t chastise me for something our dear leader Donald J promotes and has admittedly done himself. I don’t agree with the mandates and I’m actively fighting against that. But for real, the narrative that the military has turned on the citizens is fucking bogus and it makes this place sound like a fucking fringe site. You guys have no idea.
Sorry for calling you a faggot I only use it on people a like