Everything you’re saying about the breakdown of society in America is true.
The policies mostly promoted by Democrats Lead to the breakdown of black families and the concentration of African-Americans in urban centers leading to a downward spiral in black urban communities.
So I won’t get into a debate about how certain social policies lead to social economic degradation in the United States.
But let me ask you a simple academic question about farming?
What domesticated farm animals came out of Africa?
None. Any domesticated animals that you see in Africa today came from Eurasia. One reason for that is that Eurasia is the biggest landmass and therefore had the largest variety of animals of which only a very small percentage were able to be domesticated.
Until the invasion of Europeans, most Africans largely survived without domesticated animals until a fairly late period. Many Africans had to continue to rely on hunting and gathering as even productive vegetable farming is dependent on a steady supply of dung (ie. fertilizer).
Did this continued reliance on hunting and gathering affect African culture, morality and potentially affect the development of the brains and DNA of Africans? Because of Africa’s location around the equator many locations in Africa have very long or even year-round long food growing seasons. Did that have some effect on African culture and DNA?
In societies where hunting is important for survival, does violence get rewarded? Violence towards prey can lead to more hunting success and when there aren’t enough wild animals to share, some of that violence may have to be directed at neighboring tribes in order to survive.
Is asking these types of question somehow racist?
Most of Europe, being in very far north has one growing season. Yet, Europeans developed intensive vegetable and animal agricultural systems that involved high degrees of food growing, processing, storage methodology and technologies. Did the necessity for careful planning and execution of these agricultural systems lead to a European cultural and mental personality. Did annual severe European winters lead to more anxious people with long-term orientations surviving at a higher rate.
Climate, geography, land, water, animals, behavior, language, DNA, morality and culture all evolve together in a complex spiral interaction that leads to groups of people developing distinct DNA and culture.
When you remove people from their own lands and from their own culture and you transplant them into a different lands and a different culture as a minority, the result is going to be stress and cultural conflict.
As an African-American, you have a choice. You can try to adapt to some or most of the foreign values and culture and do your best to thrive in a modern nation like America or you can choose to return to a continent where you will not feel racially outnumbered.
Agreed, some people are lucky and they have parents who understand the opportunities available to them in the United States.
If you are a parent in the Jewish ethnic minority, you’re going to explain to your short, fat, slow son that he has little chance of ever succeeding in the NBA. Now as a parent should you push that son (who may only have average intellectual abilities) into trying to become the head of a Hollywood movie studio. No, statistically, very few people become the head of a Hollywood movie studio so it would be foolish to promote that idea in his head. So if you’re a smart Jewish parent you’ll encourage your child maybe to work hard to get a degree in business so that they can manage a small business.
If you are a young African-American male without a father figure encouraging you to seek out the appropriate opportunities that are available to you, that’s a big problem. You’re correct.
Most legal migrants who come to America from other nations are self selecting.
Sometimes those legal migrants come from other economically developed countries like Japan or the UK. So not all migrants are coming to America for economic reasons.
Most self selected migrants have a longer-term orientation then other members of their own culture. They identify with American individualism and they are more likely to have more self-control than the average person in their home nation.
Once those self selected migrants realize that their own values are very different from most of the people around them in their own culture, they make the decision to migrate to America legally.
That’s the difference between a legal self-selected migrant and a war refugee or an economic migrant who may be only seeking out short term benefits but wishes to return to their home country.
So that is why self selected migrants are able to adjust to American culture and have fewer legal problems. If those 1st generation migrants are good parents, they may be able to pass on those values to their children. However, there’s no guarantee that their grandchildren will be well-adjusted citizens, especially if those grandchildren are taught ideas like critical race theory or cultural Marxism.
If you are a black child with non-religious parents and you grow up in a bad neighborhood full of drug dealers where the racial mix is over 90% black, that stressful environment is going to trigger you to revert back to a more primitive African morality.
If you’re a white liberal working in an education institution or in mass media there’s about 50-50 chance that you are Jewish. But depending on what day of the week it is those people will self identify either as white or as Jewish.
Do Jews have distinct DNA?
I’m not sure why don’t you ask them. They seem to think they’re God’s chosen people.
And Jewish liberals seem to be hell-bent on forcing their sick cultural Marxism onto what used to be a Christian nation.
So yeah, if you are asking me if many white Jewish liberals are child rapists, that’s a possibility.
Remember those three black thugs that Kyle Rittenhouse shot in Kenosha?
Oh wait, I just remembered they were actually all Jewish sickos with arrest records.
And one of them was actually a five time convicted boy rapist.
I am guessing that the group of actual “Africans” you are talking about is made up of the children of a self-selected group of LEGAL migrants who are highly motivated, individualist migrants with self-control and long-term orientation. It’s also likely that they have higher IQ levels. People who can’t read and write are not very good at filling out the paperwork necessary for legal migration. The illegal migration process actually weeds out people who are incapable of making long term plans and following complex directions.
Those characteristics we find in self-selected legal migrants also predict better parenting, so their children are likely to do well in America.
What I’m concerned about are their grandchildren. If their grandchildren are exposed to CRT and cultural Marxism they will learn to label themselves as victims.
Like most Trump supporters, I don’t have any problem with legal migration.
My problem is with illegal migration or economic refugee migration.
If you belong to a church and you can read the Bible, then you can learn the 10 Commandments.
If you can’t read and there’s no church in your village I guess you’re screwed huh.
However, some philosophers and educators working in Africa believe that in fact some basic level of IQ is necessary for developing morality. Morality is abstract. Morality requires long-term thinking and consideration. Morality requires self-restraint rather than indulgence.
Additionally, many native African languages have small vocabularies and don’t actually have words that describe abstract moral concepts like “obligation” or “justice” in the same way that those languages may not have words for any number higher than 20. Any number over 20 might be described as “many“ or “more than my fingers and toes”.
In East Asian cultures like Japan and China (where the average IQ is higher than the USA) they learn and use higher level of social support language. They have extra vocabulary and very difficult grammar that describes and supports social relationships. Choosing to describe develop and support complex social relationships is a moral decision. Rather than consider others, isn’t it much easier just to be indulgent and consider oneself? However, the benefits of cooperation outweigh the benefits of selfishness in East Asian cultures.
English lacks this special social support vocabulary and high-level grammar which is one reason why it’s difficult for native English speakers to learn Chinese or Japanese. Using the English language I would never say “Here is a not-so-great gift from my humble mom that I offer up to your honorable mother”. However using this type of language is necessary when speaking Japanese.
Believe me, it was more difficult for me to learn the social language grammar in Japanese than it was to learn how to read Japanese letters and characters. And I don’t think I’ll ever be comfortable using the variety of specific words used to describe all the variety of relatives in a Chinese family. No despite these weak points, I do understand that English is an incredibly powerful language.
In the end, what I’m saying is that yes it may require a higher IQ to read, comprehend, retain and follow the 10 commandments.
Never forget the fact that you were lucky enough to get a decent education using the English language. That means your mind was programmed by an incredibly powerful language. Now are English and French common languages used in Africa? Yes, but unfortunately many African people only end up learning pidgin English or pidgin French.
A computer running windows 95 is not going to be as capable as a computer that runs Windows 11.
Everything you’re saying about the breakdown of society in America is true.
The policies mostly promoted by Democrats Lead to the breakdown of black families and the concentration of African-Americans in urban centers leading to a downward spiral in black urban communities.
So I won’t get into a debate about how certain social policies lead to social economic degradation in the United States.
But let me ask you a simple academic question about farming? What domesticated farm animals came out of Africa?
None. Any domesticated animals that you see in Africa today came from Eurasia. One reason for that is that Eurasia is the biggest landmass and therefore had the largest variety of animals of which only a very small percentage were able to be domesticated.
Until the invasion of Europeans, most Africans largely survived without domesticated animals until a fairly late period. Many Africans had to continue to rely on hunting and gathering as even productive vegetable farming is dependent on a steady supply of dung (ie. fertilizer).
Did this continued reliance on hunting and gathering affect African culture, morality and potentially affect the development of the brains and DNA of Africans? Because of Africa’s location around the equator many locations in Africa have very long or even year-round long food growing seasons. Did that have some effect on African culture and DNA?
In societies where hunting is important for survival, does violence get rewarded? Violence towards prey can lead to more hunting success and when there aren’t enough wild animals to share, some of that violence may have to be directed at neighboring tribes in order to survive.
Is asking these types of question somehow racist?
Most of Europe, being in very far north has one growing season. Yet, Europeans developed intensive vegetable and animal agricultural systems that involved high degrees of food growing, processing, storage methodology and technologies. Did the necessity for careful planning and execution of these agricultural systems lead to a European cultural and mental personality. Did annual severe European winters lead to more anxious people with long-term orientations surviving at a higher rate.
Climate, geography, land, water, animals, behavior, language, DNA, morality and culture all evolve together in a complex spiral interaction that leads to groups of people developing distinct DNA and culture.
When you remove people from their own lands and from their own culture and you transplant them into a different lands and a different culture as a minority, the result is going to be stress and cultural conflict.
As an African-American, you have a choice. You can try to adapt to some or most of the foreign values and culture and do your best to thrive in a modern nation like America or you can choose to return to a continent where you will not feel racially outnumbered.
And your argument still doesn't hold true.
Because you would see the Black "Uncle Tom" Conservative. Also being thrown in jail to.
You would see that just as often.
You don't.
Because it has nothing to do with DNA. It has to do with family structure of how you were raised.
That's it man. Nothing else matters.
Your parents set the foundation for you as an adult.
You either have a functional upbringing or you don't.
Agreed, some people are lucky and they have parents who understand the opportunities available to them in the United States.
If you are a parent in the Jewish ethnic minority, you’re going to explain to your short, fat, slow son that he has little chance of ever succeeding in the NBA. Now as a parent should you push that son (who may only have average intellectual abilities) into trying to become the head of a Hollywood movie studio. No, statistically, very few people become the head of a Hollywood movie studio so it would be foolish to promote that idea in his head. So if you’re a smart Jewish parent you’ll encourage your child maybe to work hard to get a degree in business so that they can manage a small business.
If you are a young African-American male without a father figure encouraging you to seek out the appropriate opportunities that are available to you, that’s a big problem. You’re correct.
I see your points. I really do brother.
But where I disagree with you.
I think you are over complicating ethnic differences between people.
As I mentioned in another thread.
God tells me we are all apart of his plan. How do I know that?
One of the greatest gifts that God has given us. Is the ability to create new life into this world.
The fact that an Asian Man. Can procreate with a Mexican Woman.
Tells me that all the other differences. Are more superfical in nature.
Those other differences are "So what... who cares".
And let me ask you.
Why do you see Black Africans from Africa. Who come to America LEGALLY.
You don't see them in jail. You see the black american boy in jail.
Not the foriegn black man from Africa.
The black man from Africa. Tends to do better in schooling vs the average white american.
Why is that?
Most legal migrants who come to America from other nations are self selecting. Sometimes those legal migrants come from other economically developed countries like Japan or the UK. So not all migrants are coming to America for economic reasons.
Most self selected migrants have a longer-term orientation then other members of their own culture. They identify with American individualism and they are more likely to have more self-control than the average person in their home nation.
Once those self selected migrants realize that their own values are very different from most of the people around them in their own culture, they make the decision to migrate to America legally.
That’s the difference between a legal self-selected migrant and a war refugee or an economic migrant who may be only seeking out short term benefits but wishes to return to their home country.
So that is why self selected migrants are able to adjust to American culture and have fewer legal problems. If those 1st generation migrants are good parents, they may be able to pass on those values to their children. However, there’s no guarantee that their grandchildren will be well-adjusted citizens, especially if those grandchildren are taught ideas like critical race theory or cultural Marxism.
What foreign values are you talking about dude?
This is common sense man.
The 10 commandments are common sense and univeral values.
What other values are you talking about?
The continued reliance on hunting and gathering has to do with eating food. All cultures hunted and gathered.
They knew in terms of "Common Law". That you don't hunt people lol.
If you are a black child with non-religious parents and you grow up in a bad neighborhood full of drug dealers where the racial mix is over 90% black, that stressful environment is going to trigger you to revert back to a more primitive African morality.
“Might makes right.”
“Give me some of dat”
“I didn’t do nothing”
Environment plus DNA equals behavior.
So I guess my half white nephew is all screwed up.
His "WHITE DNA" could make him a "Pedo" from his white side.
Or
His "BLACK DNA" could make him a "Thug" from his black side.
Man..
I just hope he doesn't become an thug and a pedo. I will pray for him!!
Just make sure that your half white nephew is never exposed to Jewish Hollywood movie producers or thug-rap promoters and he should be OK.
If you are a white child with non-religious parents. You might become a white leftist child pedo.
Most child pedos are white. Is that in the DNA to?
Why is human child trafficing. Mostly done by white people?
Is that DNA to?
DNA = behavior right?
Or what about KKK thugs destorying towns.
DNA = behavior right?
Most of this Pro Trans/Pedo stuff. Is pushed by white liberals.
Is that DNA to?
If you’re a white liberal working in an education institution or in mass media there’s about 50-50 chance that you are Jewish. But depending on what day of the week it is those people will self identify either as white or as Jewish.
Do Jews have distinct DNA? I’m not sure why don’t you ask them. They seem to think they’re God’s chosen people.
And Jewish liberals seem to be hell-bent on forcing their sick cultural Marxism onto what used to be a Christian nation.
So yeah, if you are asking me if many white Jewish liberals are child rapists, that’s a possibility.
Remember those three black thugs that Kyle Rittenhouse shot in Kenosha?
Oh wait, I just remembered they were actually all Jewish sickos with arrest records. And one of them was actually a five time convicted boy rapist.
Black Africans from Africa who come to America. Are actually very successful when they come here.
Why is that?
I went to an all white high school mostly.
All the African kids were towards the top of their classes. Their parents were doctors and over successful professions.
The African American Vs The Black African is night and day different. Shouldn't those Black Africans who come from African be disruptive?
I am guessing that the group of actual “Africans” you are talking about is made up of the children of a self-selected group of LEGAL migrants who are highly motivated, individualist migrants with self-control and long-term orientation. It’s also likely that they have higher IQ levels. People who can’t read and write are not very good at filling out the paperwork necessary for legal migration. The illegal migration process actually weeds out people who are incapable of making long term plans and following complex directions.
Those characteristics we find in self-selected legal migrants also predict better parenting, so their children are likely to do well in America.
What I’m concerned about are their grandchildren. If their grandchildren are exposed to CRT and cultural Marxism they will learn to label themselves as victims.
Like most Trump supporters, I don’t have any problem with legal migration.
My problem is with illegal migration or economic refugee migration.
You don't need a high IQ to follow the 10 commandments dude.
If you belong to a church and you can read the Bible, then you can learn the 10 Commandments.
If you can’t read and there’s no church in your village I guess you’re screwed huh.
However, some philosophers and educators working in Africa believe that in fact some basic level of IQ is necessary for developing morality. Morality is abstract. Morality requires long-term thinking and consideration. Morality requires self-restraint rather than indulgence.
Additionally, many native African languages have small vocabularies and don’t actually have words that describe abstract moral concepts like “obligation” or “justice” in the same way that those languages may not have words for any number higher than 20. Any number over 20 might be described as “many“ or “more than my fingers and toes”.
In East Asian cultures like Japan and China (where the average IQ is higher than the USA) they learn and use higher level of social support language. They have extra vocabulary and very difficult grammar that describes and supports social relationships. Choosing to describe develop and support complex social relationships is a moral decision. Rather than consider others, isn’t it much easier just to be indulgent and consider oneself? However, the benefits of cooperation outweigh the benefits of selfishness in East Asian cultures.
English lacks this special social support vocabulary and high-level grammar which is one reason why it’s difficult for native English speakers to learn Chinese or Japanese. Using the English language I would never say “Here is a not-so-great gift from my humble mom that I offer up to your honorable mother”. However using this type of language is necessary when speaking Japanese.
Believe me, it was more difficult for me to learn the social language grammar in Japanese than it was to learn how to read Japanese letters and characters. And I don’t think I’ll ever be comfortable using the variety of specific words used to describe all the variety of relatives in a Chinese family. No despite these weak points, I do understand that English is an incredibly powerful language.
In the end, what I’m saying is that yes it may require a higher IQ to read, comprehend, retain and follow the 10 commandments.
Never forget the fact that you were lucky enough to get a decent education using the English language. That means your mind was programmed by an incredibly powerful language. Now are English and French common languages used in Africa? Yes, but unfortunately many African people only end up learning pidgin English or pidgin French.
A computer running windows 95 is not going to be as capable as a computer that runs Windows 11.