In fairness, sibling. If you be a Christian you cannot ignore the verse in Timothy where Paul explicitly tells Timmy that wine is good for the belly.
You still have my updoot, but I do want to give loving words that our Lord Jesus drank wine as well. Not excusing excess, which is indeed sin. But the wine of old was also not pasteurized; meaning it had acetobacter and other forms of yeast strains that are actually good for the gut.
Much love to you and may God bless you with the Holy Spirit unto prudence yet also grace. In Jesus name amen.
Thank you for the spirited reply! You can call me your Brother in Christ. :)
I certainly don't judge anyone for their food choices. Enjoy this world and the tasty things that God made for us. If you drink, that is certainly your prerogative, but alcohol is "good for your health" in the same way chewing tobacco is "good for your health". Experimental design is a big part of the results here- when the researchers start with the hypothesis or funding that hinges on a particular result, they build the study to be fail-proof and kick out outliers for "breaking study protocol".
There is a time and place to get drunk. It is not for me personally, but here is Solomon's take in Proverbs 31:4-7
"It is not for kings, Lemuel—
it is not for kings to drink wine,
not for rulers to crave beer,
lest they drink and forget what has been decreed,
and deprive all the oppressed of their rights.
Let beer be for those who are perishing,
wine for those who are in anguish!
Let them drink and forget their poverty
and remember their misery no more."
The damaging effects far outweigh the beneficial ones and the possible therapeutic amount is very small- about a half glass of red wine per week is probably the maximum beneficial dose with basically every other form of alcohol being straight-up poison and it needs to be supplemented with significant amounts of Vitamin C and probably B vitamins as well.
Centuries and millennia ago, alcohol was particularly useful to drink because water sanitation didn't exist- drinking wine is way safer than drinking downstream near any human settlements. The wine they drank then was very different, much of it was new wine, but when it was alcoholic, it was heavily diluted, primarily to both flavor and to help disinfect drinking water. Here's a guide to dilution mentioned by Athenaus of Naucratis in 228 AD- most sources in antiquity mixed around 3 parts water for 1 part wine: https://cfc.sebts.edu/faith-and-culture/was-new-testament-wine-alcoholic/ 2,000 years ago, alcohol was probably better for your belly than most water supplies, particularly when you get close to larger settlements. The wine mentioned with Jesus in the New Testament is most likely New Wine, not fermented and not alcoholic. We don't really know whether Jesus drank alcoholic wine and I wouldn't be surprised either way- it's certainly not core to how I live my life and approach the world- in Matthew 11:19 and Luke 7:34 he was accused of being a "winebibber" or "drunkard", the Greek word used is οἰνοπότης. Crap like cholera and polio were rampant for millennia any time and any place humans began to live in cities- they are just a couple of the body's natural immune responses to toxic exposure to fecal matter.
The Tower of Babel may not just be a story about hubris- I don't think the intended design for human civilization is for us to be rounded up into cities- the vast majority of terrible disease epidemics have been a direct result of attempts to do this. Tuberculosis is most likely from toxic exposure to smoke. Smallpox is most likely from toxic exposure to putrefying flesh. I think communicable disease does exist, but when the energetic communication between humans happens, you don't necessarily contract an illness unless your body has experienced toxic exposure and needs to detox. It's all just signals, and sometimes your body can ignore the signal if it doesn't need it- there's a good reason why almost 80% of people who allegedly contracted SARS-COV-2 presented with mild or no symptoms. If viruses were like the Borg from Star Trek and just had to replicate as much as possible, just about everyone should get sick from just about every exposure.
The peer-reviewed studies that tell us that alcohol is good for human health are wildly flimsy and almost never cited in the publications begging you to drink alcohol like WebMD or Livestrong or any of those trendy health websites that just spout propaganda health nonsense.
Do you think every third sports commercial would be about alcohol if it was good for humans? Remember, IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY. The banking Cabal that funds every company and possesses ownership in most publicly traded companies can print infinite money and have been doing so for generations. They don't need ANY profits, they need control- the society we have today has been carefully crafted for their purposes.
The propaganda pushing a laissez-faire attitude towards alcohol and excessive sugar and sex and violence has been intentionally and repeatedly pounded into our collective subconscious in order to ruin many of the good things that God made for us and close our minds to our Divine design and purpose. The approach to these important potential stumbling blocks should not be on the Luciferian Cabal's terms and instead they should be used for their intended Godly purpose!
In fairness, sibling. If you be a Christian you cannot ignore the verse in Timothy where Paul explicitly tells Timmy that wine is good for the belly.
You still have my updoot, but I do want to give loving words that our Lord Jesus drank wine as well. Not excusing excess, which is indeed sin. But the wine of old was also not pasteurized; meaning it had acetobacter and other forms of yeast strains that are actually good for the gut.
Much love to you and may God bless you with the Holy Spirit unto prudence yet also grace. In Jesus name amen.
Thank you for the spirited reply! You can call me your Brother in Christ. :)
I certainly don't judge anyone for their food choices. Enjoy this world and the tasty things that God made for us. If you drink, that is certainly your prerogative, but alcohol is "good for your health" in the same way chewing tobacco is "good for your health". Experimental design is a big part of the results here- when the researchers start with the hypothesis or funding that hinges on a particular result, they build the study to be fail-proof and kick out outliers for "breaking study protocol".
There is a time and place to get drunk. It is not for me personally, but here is Solomon's take in Proverbs 31:4-7
"It is not for kings, Lemuel— it is not for kings to drink wine, not for rulers to crave beer, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed, and deprive all the oppressed of their rights. Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in anguish! Let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more."
The damaging effects far outweigh the beneficial ones and the possible therapeutic amount is very small- about a half glass of red wine per week is probably the maximum beneficial dose with basically every other form of alcohol being straight-up poison and it needs to be supplemented with significant amounts of Vitamin C and probably B vitamins as well.
Centuries and millennia ago, alcohol was particularly useful to drink because water sanitation didn't exist- drinking wine is way safer than drinking downstream near any human settlements. The wine they drank then was very different, much of it was new wine, but when it was alcoholic, it was heavily diluted, primarily to both flavor and to help disinfect drinking water. Here's a guide to dilution mentioned by Athenaus of Naucratis in 228 AD- most sources in antiquity mixed around 3 parts water for 1 part wine: https://cfc.sebts.edu/faith-and-culture/was-new-testament-wine-alcoholic/ 2,000 years ago, alcohol was probably better for your belly than most water supplies, particularly when you get close to larger settlements. The wine mentioned with Jesus in the New Testament is most likely New Wine, not fermented and not alcoholic. We don't really know whether Jesus drank alcoholic wine and I wouldn't be surprised either way- it's certainly not core to how I live my life and approach the world- in Matthew 11:19 and Luke 7:34 he was accused of being a "winebibber" or "drunkard", the Greek word used is οἰνοπότης. Crap like cholera and polio were rampant for millennia any time and any place humans began to live in cities- they are just a couple of the body's natural immune responses to toxic exposure to fecal matter.
The Tower of Babel may not just be a story about hubris- I don't think the intended design for human civilization is for us to be rounded up into cities- the vast majority of terrible disease epidemics have been a direct result of attempts to do this. Tuberculosis is most likely from toxic exposure to smoke. Smallpox is most likely from toxic exposure to putrefying flesh. I think communicable disease does exist, but when the energetic communication between humans happens, you don't necessarily contract an illness unless your body has experienced toxic exposure and needs to detox. It's all just signals, and sometimes your body can ignore the signal if it doesn't need it- there's a good reason why almost 80% of people who allegedly contracted SARS-COV-2 presented with mild or no symptoms. If viruses were like the Borg from Star Trek and just had to replicate as much as possible, just about everyone should get sick from just about every exposure.
The peer-reviewed studies that tell us that alcohol is good for human health are wildly flimsy and almost never cited in the publications begging you to drink alcohol like WebMD or Livestrong or any of those trendy health websites that just spout propaganda health nonsense.
Do you think every third sports commercial would be about alcohol if it was good for humans? Remember, IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY. The banking Cabal that funds every company and possesses ownership in most publicly traded companies can print infinite money and have been doing so for generations. They don't need ANY profits, they need control- the society we have today has been carefully crafted for their purposes.
The propaganda pushing a laissez-faire attitude towards alcohol and excessive sugar and sex and violence has been intentionally and repeatedly pounded into our collective subconscious in order to ruin many of the good things that God made for us and close our minds to our Divine design and purpose. The approach to these important potential stumbling blocks should not be on the Luciferian Cabal's terms and instead they should be used for their intended Godly purpose!
Yawn, Christians...
You do know Q is a collection of Christians right?
Because they quote the Bible and appeal to your Christian values? Pretty sure Biden, Obama, and Clinton do that too.
Remember how Trump said "two Corinthians?"
There are certainly Christians within the Q movement. But don't assume the Q movement is Christian.
You seem to be contesting of the Bible yourself, friend.
https://qposts.online/?q=4739&s=postnum