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Battery packs in EVs have a heater, it's present in Tesla cars for sure. It keeps the battery pack in a desired temp range.
The heater will eat a bit into your driving range / usable capacity for the trip, but it's a reasonable solution and not the end of the world.
There are other bigger issues with EVs that need to be highlighted. But probably not this one.
I own an EV but not for “environmental” reasons. It’s actually insanely quick, smooth and I’m saving a ton of money not filling up at the gas station. But yeah I agree they aren’t any better for the environment really.
Nevermind that ~80% of the electricity comes from coal or natural gas. Unless they are charging their cars from solar panels at home, all they have done is move the emissions somewhere else.
Coal? only in shitholes
Every place with lights on is a gas station to electric cars, but since you can sit parked in an electric for a week you will die of dehydration before the battery runs low.
You're intentionally missing the point. A Tesla has less than 8 hours with that heater cranked and zero driving. For the storms I've been trapped in in a 4x4 truck, that would be a 100% failure rate with a Tesla assuming a tow truck dropped me off in the storm with a full battery.
I'm not, you're lying but I don't think it's intentional. A teaka has 70+ hours of just sitting there with the heater cranked. Probably overc100 hours.
Side by side comparison, a gas car will run out before a battery. Especially considetingvtgecelectriccstarted the day full most gas cars don't.
I drive my 4x4 tesla at the highest suspension setting and it gets better winter mileage than my chevy truck.
Your mistake is thinking cars use more power to sit still and heat for 8 hours than your house uses in 8 days. That's just bad math. Cars are much smaller, more efficient, and you aren't running refrigerators and microwaves and water heaters all at once, so they use much less power.
I don't blame you, deep state propaganda feeds lies like that constantly and a lot of people get fooled by the media. Its maybe opec, maybe old fashioned greedy lues, but whatever the point of the propaganda you will see through them the next time you hear it. I'm just surprised to hear propaganda repeated here, usually this crowd is more immune.
You are the funny one. I have only seen Tesla being recharged by the roadside once -- a picture here on GAW recently. Years of Tesla news, and not a peep about winter usage.
People with money to buy EVs now are at least upper middle class. Or somewhat tech-savvy. (Leaving aside those who won Darwin Awards using the Autopilot stupidly,) this means that suitably functional EV drivers have range and battery capacity in mind, all the time. (Leaving aside say, teenagers borrowing parents' cars.)
As such, most will do fine, since they are already well-attuned to planning on battery use and management. ("100 miles left. Oh, take the supercharger tomorrow when I do groceries.") It's just another item to manage. And things like free or low-cost superchargers will be an incentive to train oneself on range / capacity awareness.
And for long trips in poor winter weather, there is always their other car (if they can afford an EV...) or a rental for cross-country trips. The most common usage of EVs is still commuting, that's why RR or Bentley is planning EV luxury cars with emphasis on short commuting, since their data indicates that the cars are most likely used for short trips.
For now, this kind of scenario will be as rare as folks who self-terminate using Autopilot stupidly. No more than that.
Other problems will dominate way before this scenario happens.
So... it uses heaters, consuming battery to prevent the battery from dissipating faster in the cold, thus resulting in the battery being dissipated faster regardless?
I think OP is correct. EVs are like motorcycles. Great way to save on gas and can be a fun hobby, but you should absolutely have a gas 4x4 if you live in a climate like this.
Currently there are no other solutions for freezing batteries. The usage is not a lot. So many years of EV expanding their numbers, and the only time I saw a picture of a Tesla being recharged by the roadside is here recently on GAW.
Most people with money to buy EVs are at least upper middle class. These folks will get into trouble less (but many still managed to kill themselves using Autopilot.) If they don't have a second car to use in poor winter weather, then a rental is an option for a long trip.
Everyone on EVs? -- not going to happen for a long time. In some (or many) countries they may need to rewire neighborhoods to allow you to fast charge. In the UK, they are proposing legislation to control charging times (illegal for you to charge during peak hours). So you see, electrical grid problems will dominate way before everyone ends up with an EV.
I wonder what the salt on the roads is going to do to them. A gas vehicle suffers at around the 10 year mark if not properly cared for. I can't imagine the bad ground issues and parasitic loads that will come with an old EV.
That's the least of their problems. Savvy owners will replace and trade in well before that. Materials and sealing are quite good these days, look at your phone for instance. Few will blame the manufacturer for such wear and tear.
Electricity grid and power line capacity issues are still mostly a gleam in the eyes of engineers. Charging must eventually be controlled by the grid, because no power grid can survive a mass charging. (Oh, lemme charge my EV while I watch ManU. Like everyone else on the street. Then of course the grid will trip.)
Public charging when everyone has an EV? That will be like those in line filling up with natural gas. Battery tech is unsolved, no matter what safety measures they put in the pack. Want your new car to burn down your house? Say no more:
https://insideevs.com/news/550960/tesla-modely-charging-fire-pennsylvania/
What will happen to dense car parks, or condo car parks? Like this:
https://insideevs.com/news/540391/stuttgart-bus-depot-fire-electricbus/
There was a large garage fire in Norway first tied to EVs, but that was a diesel Opel (had owner as witness, so probably cannot be disputed.) Car makers that talk of going 100% electric are just wanking in public. They are not talking about the problems that will appear.