This is not a good argument. Our entire system of laws is fraudulent.
What is a "woman" was only recently changed to be "18" (50 years or so?). In most of the world it still isn't 18. For most of human history (thousands and thousands of years) it was much younger. Right or wrong, it has not been "against the law" until relatively recently.
I am not supporting the actions of underage sex. I am not supporting preying on women. I am certainly not supporting anything that Maxwell or Epstein have done. I am saying using "against the law" as an argument given all we have learned about laws and our system of government is ludicrous.
The poster in question is conflating early sexual development and behavior of minors as a justification for Maxwell's crimes or trying to water down what she was participating in.
The law recognizes cognitive awareness is satisfactory at 18. In other words this is why minors can not give consent to an adult and why parents are the medical guardians of minors until they turn 18.
Without the law what we have is the wild west and everything unravels. The military is the way because they want it done by the book and through lawful and orderly means. Not vigilante justice.
Without the law what we have is the wild west and everything unravels.
Ok, now that's just insanity. I dare say the "wild west" was FAR fucking better than what we have today. Our laws are insane. They are illogical and create crimes where none should exist. I am not speaking on this "18" law specifically, but the entire fucking thing. Its ALL fraudulent and designed to take all rights away from people. Who says a person who is 17, or 16, or 15, or whatever can't make decisions for themselves? I know I was perfectly capable of doing so at least since I was 12. I was fully cognizant at that age.
The idea that I am not fully my own human until the "law" tells me so is disgusting. That is a FRAUD. I was born with inalienable rights. I'm not granted whatever ones the government decides I can have when I turn 18.
Now I'm not saying there is no place for laws to protect our children from predators. Protecting a persons rights must be the purpose of our laws; child or adult. Protecting against predatory behavior must be a part of those laws, but the laws we have right now are ludicrous. They make no sense.
I know 18 year olds that can't find their ass with both hands. I know young teenagers that make more sense than anyone three times their age. In the first case, someone could easily prey on these "legal" children and it would be a "rape" of the mind and body, simply because they are too fucking stupid and unaware to understand they are being taken advantage of. On the other hand, the young teenagers that are wise enough to make their own decisions can't be preyed upon (except by force) so if they were to choose to engage in any sexual activity it would be, by definition, consensual.
Our laws are not only new (as in recently created), they are ridiculous. Maybe they were created for the purposes of blackmail. Maybe the reason we think it is so bad to have sex with a 17 year old (but not an 18 year old) is because we have been trained to think that for the purposes of blackmail. We live in The Matrix. They control all sides. They create the laws, they drive the narrative, they create our beliefs, they create our taboos, they create the whole thing so they can control us. I think these taboos we have are exactly that. I think that is why these new laws make no sense yet we adhere to them like they are profound statements of morality.
I get that the Maxwell trial is exposing what people believe is the worst sort of activity. Great, maybe it will gently expose the larger world of actual predatory behavior without going full baby eating, blood drinking vampire. Maybe that's the best way, but the laws themselves are ludicrous, and have no place in a society that respects a persons inalienable rights, at least not as written.
This is not a good argument. Our entire system of laws is fraudulent.
What is a "woman" was only recently changed to be "18" (50 years or so?). In most of the world it still isn't 18. For most of human history (thousands and thousands of years) it was much younger. Right or wrong, it has not been "against the law" until relatively recently.
I am not supporting the actions of underage sex. I am not supporting preying on women. I am certainly not supporting anything that Maxwell or Epstein have done. I am saying using "against the law" as an argument given all we have learned about laws and our system of government is ludicrous.
The Maxwell trial is based on the current laws on the books. You have fallen for the bait set out by the poster.
They are conflating human sexual behavior and psychology with what is defined by the law.
Maxwell is on trial for violating the law by grooming minors and trafficking them.
What does this have to do with anything I said?
I addressed it explicitly.
The poster in question is conflating early sexual development and behavior of minors as a justification for Maxwell's crimes or trying to water down what she was participating in.
The law recognizes cognitive awareness is satisfactory at 18. In other words this is why minors can not give consent to an adult and why parents are the medical guardians of minors until they turn 18.
Without the law what we have is the wild west and everything unravels. The military is the way because they want it done by the book and through lawful and orderly means. Not vigilante justice.
Ok, now that's just insanity. I dare say the "wild west" was FAR fucking better than what we have today. Our laws are insane. They are illogical and create crimes where none should exist. I am not speaking on this "18" law specifically, but the entire fucking thing. Its ALL fraudulent and designed to take all rights away from people. Who says a person who is 17, or 16, or 15, or whatever can't make decisions for themselves? I know I was perfectly capable of doing so at least since I was 12. I was fully cognizant at that age.
The idea that I am not fully my own human until the "law" tells me so is disgusting. That is a FRAUD. I was born with inalienable rights. I'm not granted whatever ones the government decides I can have when I turn 18.
Now I'm not saying there is no place for laws to protect our children from predators. Protecting a persons rights must be the purpose of our laws; child or adult. Protecting against predatory behavior must be a part of those laws, but the laws we have right now are ludicrous. They make no sense.
I know 18 year olds that can't find their ass with both hands. I know young teenagers that make more sense than anyone three times their age. In the first case, someone could easily prey on these "legal" children and it would be a "rape" of the mind and body, simply because they are too fucking stupid and unaware to understand they are being taken advantage of. On the other hand, the young teenagers that are wise enough to make their own decisions can't be preyed upon (except by force) so if they were to choose to engage in any sexual activity it would be, by definition, consensual.
Our laws are not only new (as in recently created), they are ridiculous. Maybe they were created for the purposes of blackmail. Maybe the reason we think it is so bad to have sex with a 17 year old (but not an 18 year old) is because we have been trained to think that for the purposes of blackmail. We live in The Matrix. They control all sides. They create the laws, they drive the narrative, they create our beliefs, they create our taboos, they create the whole thing so they can control us. I think these taboos we have are exactly that. I think that is why these new laws make no sense yet we adhere to them like they are profound statements of morality.
I get that the Maxwell trial is exposing what people believe is the worst sort of activity. Great, maybe it will gently expose the larger world of actual predatory behavior without going full baby eating, blood drinking vampire. Maybe that's the best way, but the laws themselves are ludicrous, and have no place in a society that respects a persons inalienable rights, at least not as written.