Anything or anyone who has this much reach would be outed, humiliated, and/or dead by now. There's no way in hell almost 5000 posts were allowed to happen if they had any way to stop it. No way in hell. Logic 101. Come on, man!
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the deep state psy op never made sense ro me. Why would the create a massive group that is 100% against the deep state? Why tell us to research on our own?
If it were to start a civil war, Q wouldnt have denounced violence and would have made calls for war.
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the pacification op is a non starter. The group that follows Q wouldnt have risen up and taken arms against the government. Personally I dont believe this war will go hot unless they try to take our guns, try to send us to camps, or shut us out of banking making us destitute. This woupd happen with or without Q
My statement was simply a direct answer to the main argument that "proves Q is real". But since you commented.
Before Q, there was already a building movement against the Deep State. What better way to control that movement than a Q psyop "Everything is under control, follow the plan". A Q psyop would push the group away from Civil War, again "The Plan". Once they get to the point of disarming us it will be to late for a hot war, they would have full control over us. We are now in a position were we can only react, they will always be a step or two ahead of our reactions.
Once again this is if there are no White Hats and no Q.
I just dont believe the Q is a deep state psy op theory has any more legs than q is a basement dwelling internet troll. Both are logically flawed theories.
I dont think if there was no q the war woild have gone hot by now. If a small fringe group got violent they would be taken out fast. The massrs arent in for war, they have shown that as they comply with every mandate down to the mayoral level.
I think the only logical argument is that the Q team is what they say. The only concern I have ever had is if the white hats lost the war.
I am not pushing that Q is a psyop.
But the intro statement of "proof that Q is real because..." can be challenged by my simple statement.
It therefore is not "proof" of anything.
I am not judging your belief here. You are playing devil's advocate. I am debating that I don't believe a Q DS psyop makes logical sense. Therefore removing it as an option. If it was a DS psyop they made a yuuuge miscalculation. Once they figured it out, they would not have ended the drops the way it ended, they would have twisted it into something else. They also wouldn't have put out so much info against themselves.
If I can discredit the psy op enough it further proves OP's statement.
If Q was a psy op it would have to be orchestrated by Trump or Trump allies. Which if true would mean it was an orchestrated effort by a group trying to overturn the cabal that may or may not have been military intelligence. This is an interesting theory to me, but I still don't buy it.
Anyway, my purpose was to debate and logically disprove the DS psy op narrative, not to attack you in any way.
If the white hats lose, I suspect a sizable number of Americans won't stand for it. There's a good chance it'll be 1776 again with an army of 80+ million armed patriots. It would be chaotic and horrific and I hope it doesn't come to that.
at some point yes, but it would take some kind of action from the deep state that would trigger the masses. Forced jabs, gun confiscation, concentration camps. The cabal knows this, that is the problem they will go back to the slow drip and slowly take rights away, I don't think they will full on trigger us to war unless they are on the brink of losing everything, otherwise if the white hats are out of the way they will go back to the slow road to communism, probably via republicans for a little while.
Considering where we're at, are you sure about this? I feel like people losing their jobs and being ostracized for their Vax status would make people fight
Exactly this. The main message of Q is to trust the plan. Just be a good little quiet citizen and politely trust the plan. Must have the deep state quaking in their boots.
That’s the Operation Trust 2.0 scenario…
Well said. It stops people from getting agitated and has sews division.
Trump becoming president clearly polarized the country. Some people were polarized left and it has helped the ushering in of the NWO, but some people were polarized to the right, and then there were the people who already were aware of deep state, the vaccine scam.
What better thing for the deep state to do than to allow Trump to become president to get so many people to take up the NWOs ideals, by polarizing them to the left.
But to stop the right wing from getting agitated you've got the Q psyop. It pacified alot of would be revolutionaries, and has sewn division in the red pilled community which is equal to reducing our numbers. Things like revolution can be Quelled by sewing division. Critical mass will never manifest, organization will never happen. Mobilization won't happen.
In Europe and Australia the critical mass was there, and the unity so there are massive protest.in the US you have the red pilled being told to stay home and let the govt sort it out, just watch, and "let us tell you what you are looking at'
If Hilary had become president those same people who are pacified by Q would have revolted by now. There would be a unified red pilled community that would not stand for such tyranny from Hillary fucking Clinton. Can you imagine if Q didn't exist and Hilary did all that to us???
If Hilary had been the one to put us on lockdown and mandated masks instead of Trump. And if Hilary had rushed 3 vaccines through saftey trials instead of Trump those same people pacified by Q would have stood up to the tyranny . If there were no Q, and Trump wasn't president it's not unlikely that millions of armed Americans might have taken the country back and started a full on global revolution.
Trump didn't fire fauci, but fauci paired with Hilary would have been way too evil for anyone to handle, or stand for.
Fauci starts talking about getting a vaccine in two years and America starts saying "no way, that's too soon"!and then Trump suggests we go with what the pharma execs suggest which was to take the vaccine that they invented in one day and they could have it tested and ready for production in just a couple of months Wich everyone said was way too soon. Fauci said" you wouldn't have a vaccine, you'd have something ready for trials. The soonest we can have a vaccine tested and ready is a year and a half to a year." And people suddenly thought that that timeframe was reasonable, and then Trump created warp speed to facilitate that, but imagine if Hilary had said all the same things and then Fauci made her compromise to just a year???
No one would have allowed that.
So there are Definitly different movies we could all be watching here, and it wouldn't be crazy or without cause if the one with Q is actually a govt psyop to Quell the revolution before it ever even gets close to starting.
At this point that actually is feeling like the most likely.
I tend to think websites like this are part of the psyop.
People get banned for bringing up different ideas. There is a narrative that has formed here at GAW about Trump and the vaccines which is total BS that does not match up with the actual past events but you can get banned for even arguing against it.
If you don't go with the narrative that formed here that has nothing to do with anything Q even said you can get banned for "dooming".
So dooming is a concept they've come up with that they can use to control the nearrative in forums like this.
Then you have people afraid to speak up or post something like this post even.
I'm only playing devil's advocate however presenting a very plausible scenario in a context where someone questioned what motive was there for the govt to create a Q psyop, but I could get banned for it or at the very least down voted to oblivion.
Either way all they have to do is slip in believable narratives into a for like this and then maintain it as the narrative by banning and negative social credit scores and suddenly you have what would be the begining s off an uprising but instead the would be revolutionist are controlling themselves for the deep state.
This could all Definitly be a psyop. I
Nailed it. This is some front page material here
Very good post. Healthy debate is good for all. Hopefully, one day we can look back on all this with a victory on our side.
It IS a psyop. Question is, who is behind it.
Some of your logic makes perfect sense. But I can’t see the DS slowing down their agenda (though that’s probably the smart play, but I see them getting impatient). Why would the DS shine a light on their own Luciferianism? Why would they want more and more free thinkers? I can’t understand these moves.
Unless Q represents a faction of black hats that isn’t as evil but still vying for power. When I discuss with people and they bring up this possibility I have no counter.
I had specified that in the case I presented that Q was a psyop to pacify a certain social group.
I've heard that narrative before
What do you mean slow down the narrative?
And what do you call free thinking? What you call free thinking is a ginger bread house. Come in have all the candy you want, but your getting kicked into the oven and baked like a cake .
If they can round up all the "free thinkers" into one false belief and then demonize everyone in that group then no one will believe anything they say as soon as the person mentions Q.
You can tell someone all about the govt agenda to make everyone get a vaxx passport and with all the compelling evidence, but the second you mention Q, or the flat earth all of the truth you told them will get tossed out while they laugh t you and dismiss the facts as nonsense just like the rest.
The fact that you don't understand these moves and so dismiss the notion
Read up on controlled opposition
I know what controlled opposition is. Are you implying that the DS would create Q as a psy op? This would be monumentally stupid. So instead of having a fringe movement that they have no control of they create a massive group of adversaries, that are against them, that are told to research for yourselves? The theory doesn't hold water.
The theory I cant counter is that Q is a separate faction of black hats, but not as evil. If you have ideas to counter I’m all ears.
interesting. another evil cabal trying to take out the existing evil cabal. I have thought about this. Like the current cabal is the first beast, and the 2nd cabal is the 2nd beast. I have thought about Trump being the leader of the 2nd beast. We will know this is true if the death jab kills 30% he takes power and says it is good they are gone now we can create the world we want.
It is good to go down all of these paths, it means our minds are open to real thought.
It does when you control the information available to research and tell them to “trust the plan”
but they don't control the information available. They control big tech, they don't control the entirety of the internet
Trust the plan
They would have, without the reassurance from Q that patriots were in control.
I disagree completely, Americans are too fat and happy to throw their current life away and stand up to fight. If they did the group would have been so small it would have had zero effect.
This movement has grown exponentially due to Q. There is no logical reason a deep state psy op would want to exponentially grow their adversaries.
People talk the talk, and say they are ready to fight. Sure many of us are ready with regards to weapons and prepping, but the reality is there will not be a hot war with or without Q unless they cross some major red lines. Not the kind of red lines that we discuss, the kind of red lines that the masses will see. Examples would be gun confiscation, physically forced jabs, concentration camps, etc. Until those things actually happen we will continue to wait for a non violent solution.
Sure there is. Complacency and tracking. It could be easily said that those sealed indictments are for us. And those red lines are happening already around the world. Gun confiscation is already on the table, and the red flag laws are the start.
What I am saying is with no Q, they would slow roll their plan as designed. There would be no major violent resistance. People aren't going to give up their families and their lives if they outlaw bump stocks. Being on the table doesn't start war. Red flag laws will not start war. War wouldn't start until mass confiscation or mass imprisonment of law abiding citizens for wrong think.
The one thing the DS is very good at is the slow road to tyranny. They would not speed up that road unless they were in danger of being removed from power. Sure there are a small group that might have done or do something with arms, but they would be quelled quickly. If there was no Q many would still be fighting for the turtle to regain power, the D and the Rs would still be looked at differently. The DS already had their controlled opposition, it was called the republican party. They have lost that now, why would they want to lose that.
At 20,000 feet the DS psy op narrative makes a little sense, but when you get into the weeds of it, it falls flat.